The Abyss R2 - Keeping Long Ver of Movie

[Mancubas]

Hi

Has anybody managed to keep the longer version of this movie, if so can someone advise me on what will be the best method, I have successfully ripped Planet Of The Apes R2 which contained multi-angles with some messing around, any advise would be appreciated.

Mancubas :D

[DIggedy]

It shouldnt be too difficult as you shouldn't need to reencode it to fit a dvdr... Both versions of the film are encoded at a VERY low bitrate to fit them both on a dvd-9, if I recall correctly the average bitrate hovers around the 3.5 mark.

[Josh]

Here's a way to do it Mancubas if you haven't already figured it out. I did it and kept both version of the movie, watched the long version already.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48105

[Eyes`Only]

How funny.. the ifoedit forum has a thread where ppl post the way they figured out how to butcher their dvd. Like that takes talent or something...

I, on the other hand, being a perfectionist, backed up Abyss R1 entirely from dvd-9 to dvdr, keeping both versions of the movie and all extras. It was quite fun and challenging, but the Q is excellent (so says everyone that's come over and watched it), and it performs just like my original that sits right next to it on my shelf!

[Josh]

Nothing was butchered. Everything was there too, both versions and extras. Don't be so quick to judge, we're just trying to help each other out.

[matus2003]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
I, on the other hand, being a perfectionist, backed up Abyss R1 entirely from dvd-9 to dvdr, keeping both versions of the movie and all extras. It was quite fun and challenging, but the Q is excellent (so says everyone that's come over and watched it), and it performs just like my original that sits right next to it on my shelf! [/B]

Hello Eyes' Only. I am trying to do the same, but with R2 disc. This version is pretty messy - 2.35:1 is encoded like 4:3 letterboxed, material is interlaced and it's ABR is about 3,5, so not much. When demuxing by VOB ID, 67 files came out. Counting their lenght and ABR for movie I came to 2244. But to see your post, I'm gonna give it a try. I would like to know what was your ABR and passes settings for CCE? Thanks for answer.

[RB]

The Abyss R2 PAL is not really interlaced, just shifted fields. AddDoubleWeave().SelectOdd()to your AVISynth script and you'll have a progressive video. To get the last bit of quality, use LetterBox() in the AVISynth script to make the original black bars truly black.

[matus2003]

to RB: thanks a lot, you're absolutely right with the shift - I didn't notice it, so I started to encode as interlaced. Thanks also for advice with LetterBox().
I'll check once again if 2244 is maximum I can set and I'll try 5 passes to help it a bit.

[matus2003]

to RB: I tried to create AviSynth scripts as you suggested, but seems that shift is not always there. Could it be possible?
I tried to encode VOBID 2 just for test with and without setting
DoubleWeave().SelectOdd(),
and it seems some parts of video are OK with setting, but some without. And it is within single VOBID.

[RB]

Sorry, my bad. Somehow I was sure that did it for me the last time I backed up Abyss... anyway just looked into it again and what you need is Neuron's Decomb (http://www.neuron2.net/decomb/decombnew.html) AVISynth Plugin. Then make your AVISynth script look like this:
LoadPlugin("C:\wherever\Decomb.dll")
Mpeg2Source("abyss.d2v")
Telecide(order=1,guide=2,post=0)
ConvertToYUY2()
AddAudio()

Check the CCE FAQ (see my sig) about the AddAudio() thing.

[matus2003]

Thank you for answer. I'm familiar with the AddAudio() thing, I am using 2.67.00.09 and there is no problem, with or without it.
So you did full backup of Abyss? Because it's about 3:45 of video + one audio stream and for me ABR came out somewhere 2244 as I wrote. Is it worth it? I'd like to keep full backup, Eyes' Only wrote that he has excelent quality.
I am thinking about re-create simple still menu just for picking up version of picture to save some space...

[RB]

Try it, quality will be more than acceptable because of the huge black bars you have here and you can encode as progressive.

Also look here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70485