VCD - audio 2m out of synch and video 1 frame per 15 secs

[zedstrange]

I have created a VCD using DVD2SVCD and TMPGenc instructions combination.

The result when i play the output bin/cue files is a movie that after about 5 mins playtime (about the length of the opening credits) the audio track is approximatley 2 mins ahead of the movie. Plus the video is running 1 frame at a time and changing once avery 15 seconds approximately.
The movie wont play at all on my VCD player. It can play burnt VCDs (PAL) that i have created before ie with DVDx, however this is the first time i have used extra utilities like TMPG)

My System -
encoding on Duron 1g, 512mb ram, 7200rpm drive. Win XP
(but i burn the cd on a - P3-550, 512mb ram, 5400rpm drive)
I also have a multisystem VCD 2.0 player.
DVD Source : NTSC 29.97, 4:3, no region. ( i am in australia so i normally do PAL stuff)
"dvd2svcd_log.txt", "Avisynth_Script_file.avs", "dvd2svcd.ini" are all included in the attached TXT file.

My previous attempt on this job, i checked the box to "NTSC to PAL" and I got a result that seems ok but when i play back on PC, the images when moving have a quite large Zig Zag outline. this reminds me of the effect when using Gknot and "swap field order"is used to correct but much worse.

any assistance given is appreciated.
Zed

[markrb]

Best to post your DVD2SVCD_Log.txt file using cut and paste don't attach.

The Zig Zag lines sound like interlacing. Many times you won't see this on a TV since most TV's (I know NTSC is) are interlaced too. So the interlacing is not noticable.

Mark

[zedstrange]

Originally posted by markrb
Best to post your DVD2SVCD_Log.txt file using cut and paste don't attach.

thanks, sorry didnt realise attachments didnt work. heres the log..

**********DVD2SVCDLOG.TXT START

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- 10/10/2002 10:13:16 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2VCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 10/10/2002 10:13:19 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\dvdrips\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\dvdrips\leftbehind\vts_08_1.vob,D:\dvdrips\leftbehind\vts_08_2.vob,D:\dvdrips\leftbehind\vts_08_3.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film NOT activated!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 10/10/2002 10:15:29 PM
- Free on drive D: 22487.49 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -67 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 10/10/2002 10:20:00 PM
- Free on drive D: 22350.29 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\dvdrips\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\dvdrips\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -67 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 10/10/2002 10:47:12 PM
- Free on drive D: 22396.02 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding D:\dvdrips\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 1542373728
AudioSectors: 97284964
VideoPAPO: 22385196
ScanOffsetBytes: 0
SeqAligningBytes: 0
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 1422703560.00
Seconds: 5999.19
CalcMPEGStream: 1422703560.00
Frames: 179646
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\dvdrips\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(352,240)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\dvdrips\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 11/10/2002 3:37:39 AM
- Free on drive D: 21040.34 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11/10/2002 3:37:41 AM
- Free on drive D: 21040.34 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11/10/2002 3:37:43 AM
- Free on drive D: 21040.34 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\dvdrips\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 11/10/2002 3:47:54 AM
- Free on drive D: 19574.91 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" --iso-volume-label=LEFTBEHIND --progress --add-file="D:\dvdrips\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "D:\dvdrips\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg"
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- 11/10/2002 3:50:21 AM
- Free on drive D: 19563.93 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" --iso-volume-label=LEFTBEHIND --progress --add-file="D:\dvdrips\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "D:\dvdrips\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 11/10/2002 3:52:37 AM
- Free on drive D: 19553.40 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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**********DVD2SVCDLOG.TXT END

[markrb]

What did you use to rip the DVD?

Mark

[zedstrange]

Originally posted by markrb
What did you use to rip the DVD?
Mark

I used the one that comes with Gknot - Smartripper. I used that as i most often make Divx movies, and it was already ripped. I wouldnt have thought that was significant?

Is it worth mentioning that i have just used the same configuration to create a SVCD (NTSC) that seems to be perfect (plays ok in my PC but i havent found a DVD player that it would work with.

thanks

[markrb]

You should read the Q+A whenever you have a problem before posting. This contains many of the answers you seek.

Q24: My audio and video are not synced
A: This rarely happens. The most common reason is when a DVD have been ripped with an external ripper (like Smartripper). Always us internal routines when possible. (In the new DVD2SVCD versions, you can select "Rip Only" and convert the ripped vob files later). Another reason could be that a trailer is as the first chapter on the DVD (like Swordfish).



This may not be the cause, but it's a starting point. We don't support outside rippers unless the two included do not work for some reason.


Mark

[zedstrange]

Originally posted by markrb
You should read the Q+A whenever you have a problem before posting. This contains many of the answers you seek.
Mark

Oops, i did read that one and then forgot that i had read it. sorry. for some reason i assumed that Smartripper was ok because its supported on this website - now i understand.

I have done the VCD again, using Internal Routines for ripping, now i get a good movie but no sound at all (and wont play in my VCD player but thats another issue). The mp2 file plays ok and the log confirms that the movie and sound file were joined togther. I am wondering if there is a quick and easy way to mux these two files together, apart from starting all over again

here is the Log - what do you think now?
thanks

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- 19/10/2002 8:08:45 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2VCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 19/10/2002 8:08:49 AM
- Free on drive D: 20734.13 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_1.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_2.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_3.vob

Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_1.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_2.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_3.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 9031

Trying to eject the DVD
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- 19/10/2002 8:14:19 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\dvdrips\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\dvdrips\leftbehind\VTS_08_1.vob,D:\dvdrips\leftbehind\VTS_08_2.vob,D:\dvdrips\leftbehind\VTS_08_3.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film NOT activated!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 19/10/2002 8:16:12 AM
- Free on drive D: 17884.99 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -67 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 19/10/2002 8:20:16 AM
- Free on drive D: 17747.79 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\dvdrips\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\dvdrips\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -67 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\dvdrips\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 19/10/2002 8:47:21 AM
- Free on drive D: 17793.52 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
--------------------------------------------------------
- Encoding D:\dvdrips\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 1667869728
AudioSectors: 97284964
VideoPAPO: 24329196
ScanOffsetBytes: 0
SeqAligningBytes: 0
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 1546255560.00
Seconds: 5999.19
CalcMPEGStream: 1546255560.00
Frames: 179646
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\dvdrips\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(352,240)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\tmpgenc\TMPGEnc.exe" "D:\dvdrips\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 19/10/2002 1:42:32 PM
- Free on drive D: 16320.08 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
--------------------------------------------------------
- 19/10/2002 1:42:34 PM
- Free on drive D: 16320.08 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
--------------------------------------------------------
Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
--------------------------------------------------------
- 19/10/2002 1:42:36 PM
- Free on drive D: 16320.08 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
--------------------------------------------------------
Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\dvdrips\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 19/10/2002 1:53:33 PM
- Free on drive D: 14735.39 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" --iso-volume-label=LEFTBEHIND --progress --add-file="D:\dvdrips\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "D:\dvdrips\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg"
--------------------------------------------------------
- 19/10/2002 1:56:14 PM
- Free on drive D: 14723.64 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDImager
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Executing VCDImager. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe" --type=vcd2 --cue-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\dvdrips\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" --iso-volume-label=LEFTBEHIND --progress --add-file="D:\dvdrips\SVCDInfo.txt",EXTRA/VCDINFO.TXT "D:\dvdrips\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 19/10/2002 1:58:53 PM
- Free on drive D: 14712.45 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[zedstrange]

stop press:-)
theres more.
the VCD i made was converted into 2 bin/cue image files. i only checked part 2, but now i have checked both

Part 2 of the conversion, plays a perfect movie but no sound
Part 1, repeat of initial problem, has audio added, but is ahead of audio by abou 2min, once we are about 5 mins into the movie, and only displays one frame per every 15 seconds or so.

i fnd this behaviour not logical?

any ideas.

[markrb]

1)Did you try playing the SVCD's on your computer using WinDVD or PowerDVD instead of just the standalone?

2)If you still have the bbmpeg_Muxed_file_???_.mpg play that in WinDVD or PowerDVD.

3)If you still have the ripped VOB's play them in WinDVD or PowerDVD.

If 1 and 2 are bad and 3 is OK try this.
Re-Rip the video, but this time bring up the chapter view by clicking on the time shown on the conversion tab. Look for a "0" length chapter at the beginning of the DVD. If you see one uncheck it and start your encode over.

Once we can narrow down where the problem starts to show itself we can start to work on particular sections.

Never use Windows Media Player to test these Mpg's. It's unreliable.

Mark

[zedstrange]

Originally posted by markrb
1)Did you try playing the SVCD's on your computer using WinDVD or PowerDVD instead of just the standalone?
2)If you still have the bbmpeg_Muxed_file_???_.mpg play that in WinDVD or PowerDVD.
3)If you still have the ripped VOB's play them in WinDVD or PowerDVD.

1. yes, problem is the same - whether i use daemon tools to mount the image or not create an image just the mpg file.
2. i dont have that file - i use the settnigs to delete unecessary files.
3. i have PowerDVD v4 and i cant play IFO files from my HD. it has nver done this for me, when i select the IFO i get error "no disc in drive" .if i put dvd in drive then it plays the DVD instead. i give up on working that one out a long time ago.

also no Zero length chapters.

i participated in an interesting exercise today. I attempted once again to rip this movie - this time to VCD only rather than SVCD, however the problem repeats.

as before, the seperate MP2 and MPV files appear ok, its just that once they have been multiplexed by bbMPEG the problem occurs.

so today i have converted the MPV file to a Divx format. and then used Virtual Dub to join the audio and video together - its perfect (albeit some loss of quality) therefore there doesnt seem to be any problem apart the multiplexing.

i had a play with bbMPEG, but have not used it before. i clicked Add, and it accepyed the MPV file no problems, but when i tried to Add the MP2 file i get an error " COuld not get time per frame from IdirectDrawstream" ( i assume that is how one uses bbMPEG).

could that error message be the problem?

[markrb]

I will look at it more later, but I never said to play the IFO. I said to play the VOB. You need PowerDVD 4 or WinDVD to do this.

Does this video happen to have a "Formatted to fit your screen" segment in the beginning? Or for that matter any kind of silent info screen right up front?

Mark