"Direct DVD to HD" ogg and DivX encoding

[neird]

Is it possible with Besweet and Avisynth(MpegDecoder)-VirtualDub, with good quality and speed improvment?
And then mux.

[killingspree]

... NO
i think you would need a terribly fast computer with probably a SCSI DVD ROM drive and HD and loads of RAM.
otherwise you'll get too many dropped frames!

anyway feel free to try and post your results!

regards
steVe

[TheUnforgiven]

@killingspree
he means without ripping i think.

[neird]

I mean:
-video: list of .vob(on the dvd) -> Avisynth(with MPEGDecoder by Nic, can read vob) -> VirtualDub encoding in DivX or Xvid -> .avi
-audio: list of .vob(on the dvd) -> Besweet 1.4(can read vob) -> .ogg
-mux: .ogg and .avi in .ogm with oggmux.

Everything integrated in an all-in-one automation software.
Could be usefull for saving time and space?isn't it?

[neird]

I test the method and everything work well:
I encode the first vob(vts_02_1.vob) in the PAL DVD Ghost in the shell.
video lenght: 22min13s
Overall process takes around 35min, on a Tbird 1.4Ghz with 256mo and Win98SE, the reader is a Toshiba SDM1612.
The divx bitrate is around 1500(i forgot :) ), 1-pass, GMC, Bi-enc, psycho light

-I make a .bat for the method describe:

@echo off

echo Start audio encoding...
Besweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "voblist.lst" -substream 0x80 -output "movie.ogg" -logfilea "Besweet.log" ) -azid( -n1 -c normal -L -3db -s stereo ) -ota( -G max ) -ogg( -q 0.400 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -boost( /b2=5 )
echo Audio encoding complete

echo Start video encoding...
start /wait VirtualDub\VirtualDub.exe /r /x
echo Video encoding complete

echo Start muxing...
echo Wait few minutes for the .ogm (even if it seems that nothing happens)
OggMux\OggMux.exe oggmux.omx


-Resume:
Besweet time: 6:47
VirtualDub time: 3min for size estimation(MPEGDecoder) then 25min of encoding (around 22FPS)
oggmux time: 1min

-First the besweet log:

BeSweet v1.4 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.8 (b825) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using hip.dll v1.13 by Myers Carpenter <myers@users.sf.net>
Using VOBInput.dll v1.2 by DVD2SVCD (http://www.notrace.dk)
Using Shibatch.dll v0.2 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using Ogg Vorbis v1.0 dlls (http://www.vorbis.com).
Manual Dynamic-Compression algorithm by LigH (author of WaveBooster).

Logging start : 10/10/02 , 18:31:58.

H:\ESSAI\BESWEET\BESWEET.EXE -core( -input voblist.lst -substream 0x80 -output movie.ogg -logfilea Besweet.log ) -azid( -n1 -c normal -L -3db -s stereo ) -ota( -G max ) -ogg( -q 0.400 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -boost( /b2=5 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : voblist.lst
[00:00:00:000] | Output: movie.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Substream ID: 0x80
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | A/V Delay found : 0msec
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] +------ Shibatch -----
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BOOST ------
[00:00:00:000] | Algorithm by : Dg
[00:00:00:000] | Boost Factor : 5.0
[00:00:00:000] | Limit Factor : 0.73
[00:00:00:000] +-------- OGG --------
[00:00:00:000] | VBR Quality : 0.400
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:22:13:728] Gain of 13.8dB had been asserted to file.
[00:22:13:728] Conversion Completed !
[00:22:13:728] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 104kbps
[00:06:47:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 10/10/02 , 18:38:45.


-Second the AVS script:

LoadPlugin("MPEGDecoder.dll")
MPEGSource("voblist.lst", 0, "decss")
# -2 doesn't work with me

#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) i forget to include this line

Crop(6,14,708,545)

LanczosResize(432,304)


-Third the VirtualDub jobs:

// VirtualDub job list (Sylia script format)
// This is a program generated file -- edit at your own risk.
//
// $numjobs 1
//

// $job "Job 1"
// $input "H:\essai\movie.avs"
// $output "H:\essai\movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("H:\\essai\\movie.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(319,"GAEAAABqGADQBwAACgAAABQAAAD6AAAACgAAAAIAAAAFAAAAAAAAACgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAAyAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADwP5qZmZmZmck/QAAAAAEAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIACAADgAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAQAAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAEAAAD/////AQAAAGM6XGRpdngubG9nAGM6XHRlc3QuZGl2eABjOlxtdmluZm8uYmluAGk=");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("H:\\essai\\movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done


-Finally the .omx for oggmux:

<movie>
movie.avi
</movie>

<title>
My movie
</title>

<soundtracks>
movie.ogg
French
</soundtracks>

<subtitles></subtitles>

<chapters>
</chapters>

<target>
movie.ogm
</target>

<split>
0
</split>


Long post ;) , too long?:)
Any comment?

[DJ Bobo]

@ neird
If you think you're sparing time, you're totally wrong. You're just wasting (your) time!

[killingspree]

@dj bobo:
i'm not convinced of this method either, but can you specifyß
thx

@neird:
i think you'll give up quite a bit of quality! if time is this important to you, ok... or do you NOt have enough space to do it the 'normal' way?

regards
steVe

[DSPguru]

Besweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "voblist.lst" -substream 0x80 -output "movie.ogg" -logfilea "Besweet.log" ) -azid( -n1 -c normal -g 10db -L -3db ) -ota( -G max -d auto ) -ogg( -q 0.400 )

[Nic]

I really do have to update my dvd2avi_nic so people dont have to do this...lol. It makes ripping straight from the DVD so easy, but its not something I recommend.

-Nic

[DSPguru]

Nic Nic Nic !

:o

[neird]

I'm not convinced of my method too.
That's just an idea, maybe that could interest someone (apparently not :) )

@killingspree: I have enough space but, i must always keep free around 8Go on my HD.
For the time, i think you can free up the time of the rip process (around 20min for the entire DVD).