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craigslee
5th October 2002, 12:57
Ok, I've created my .d2v and .ac3 files from my .vob's, I've opened up FitCD and saved my avs script (optimised for CCE)....

Now, when I try to add or open up my .avs file to CCE, it asks for an .ecl? it doesn't want to know about anything else.

I'm doing something wrong right?

Please enlighten me CCE guru's

:confused:

wmansir
5th October 2002, 16:09
If you use the File->Open menu on CCE it will want to open a .ecl file (encoder control list), which is like a project file. To add your video(s) just drag and drop it into the window.

JustMark
5th October 2002, 21:39
Or right click in the window below the menubar and select "Add"...

Reading the guides might help a liitle also.

luders
6th October 2002, 06:50
Man I felt some dumb at first when I was reading all the guides and I couldn't even open a file in CCE. Bahhh...

craigslee
6th October 2002, 08:27
Justmark, "right click dont work. Read the guides? Doh!

How about...

1. AMD incompatibility issues?
2. Avisynth scriting error?
3. Corrupt version of CCE
4. Missing/corrupt dll?
5. etc, etc, etc...

Luders, I get the feeling you are showing some support/sympathy, thats cool!

Justmark, I've read the forum rules, and I have to be nice to you... 'm not lazy, I've read the guides and I was just hoping for something a little more helpful.

Anyway, still no luck "adding" an .avs to CCE 2.5...

Probably stick to the bulletproof TMPG.




:p :p

Boulder
6th October 2002, 11:24
Have you added the line ResampleAudio(44100) to your script?

craigslee
6th October 2002, 11:28
Yes sir!

Boulder
6th October 2002, 11:31
Please post the script you've tried..it might provide a solution. Does CCE give any error messages?

craigslee
6th October 2002, 12:23
Here it is...

LoadPlugin("D:\Programs\mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec_dll\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\Inspectorgadget.d2v")
BilinearResize(320,190,0,3,720,570)
#TemporalSmoother(2,2)
AddBorders(16,49,16,49)
#Trim(0,112789).FadeOut(150)
#ConvertToRGB24 # For TMPGEnc or VFAPI
#ResampleAudio(44100) # CCE 2.5 'crashfix' for Athlons
#== If you want this 'fix' permanently, edit the INI-file:
#== Under [AVSscript] set CCEcrashfix=1


Here is CCE's response...

D:\DVD_Backup\InspectorGadget\InspectorGadget.avs ia not a ECL for Cinema Craft Encoder SP

Bring it on!

Boulder
6th October 2002, 12:56
Well, the error message says that it has been asking for a ECL file, which means the CCE settings etc. So, it seems that you didn't try to load the AVS script properly, either by dragging the AVS script to the CCE windows or by right clicking in the CCE windows, selecting 'add' and then selecting the AVS file. To select the AVS file, you'll have to change the file types to 'all files' so that your script file will show up in the list. By default, CCE only shows files with the extension .mov, .dv or .avi.

Also remember to remove the # mark from the line which has ResampleAudio(44100) on it or CCE will not work in case you're using an Athlon although it won't hurt to use it in any case - you probably won't be doing anything to audio in CCE;)

Hope this helps.

craigslee
6th October 2002, 13:31
Hi Boulder,

I'm trying everything that has been suggested, and so far, I'm failing miserably. CCE crashes consistently when I drag and drop or use the "add" method. I've tried several versions of mpeg2dec.dll and avisynth, but its no good. I've searched every forum for clues with no luck.

I know its probably really basic, but I'm just not getting it!

I've tried to open avs files in windows media player and get errors... here's what it says:

AVIFilesource couldn't open file D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\InspectorGadget.avs, line2

weird? avisynth?


:confused:

Boulder
6th October 2002, 13:37
Uh oh..I'm at my wits end here as well:confused:

Try to do the backup with DVD2SVCD, if it doesn't work, there's something really wrong.

wmansir
6th October 2002, 15:44
The first step would be to get your avisynth script working in Vdub and WMP. If they can't open it, neither can CCE.

The first thing I would do is re-create the .d2v file and open it in Gnot or TMpeg to make sure it is vaild. Then create a simple .avs script:

LoadPlugin("D:\Programs\mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec_dll\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\Inspectorgadget.d2v")

and see if Vdub or WMP can open it. IF that works you can add the other lines, one at a time, until the error is reproduced.

It seems odd that mpeg2dec would give an AVIFileSource error. If you can't get even the simple .avs to open, post your problem in the Avisynth forum. You may want to run some searches first to make sure it hasn't been discussed, but I did a quick one of mpeg2dec.dll and AviFileSource, and only returned this thread.

craigslee
7th October 2002, 00:45
DVD2AVI 1.77 was part of the problem...replaced with 1.76

Avisynth 2.06 installed things looking better...

BUT!, This still doesn't work...

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\InspectorGadget_2.d2v")
BilinearResize(320,190,0,3,720,570)
#TemporalSmoother(2,2)
AddBorders(16,49,16,49)
#Trim(0,112789).FadeOut(150)
#ConvertToRGB24 # For TMPGEnc or VFAPI
#ResampleAudio(44100) # CCE 2.5 'crashfix' for Athlons
#== If you want this 'fix' permanently, edit the INI-file:
#== Under [AVSscript] set CCEcrashfix=1

HOWEVER, This does...

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\InspectorGadget_2.d2v")
ResampleAudio(44100)


Anything more complex with the avs and CCE rejects it/crashes!

This simple avs creates way too large a final video only file, now I have to establish why I'm unable to extend the avs?

wmansir, I'll move over to the avisynth forum I think...

Any clues welcome

:confused:

Uli
7th October 2002, 00:54
Delete the '#' before ResampleAudio(44100) in your script!! :p

greetz, Uli

craigslee
7th October 2002, 02:46
Uli!

You are a GOD!

I knew it was something radically simple...

I've tried your solution with my FitCD nad GKnot avs scripts and it works like a charm...weird but wonderful!

Here it is again: Open avs in notepad, Delete the '#' before ResampleAudio(44100)

That 's all folks!
:D :D :D :D :D

P.S. Thanx greatly to all that have contributed.
P.P.S. Justmark, find THAT in the guides!

JustMark
7th October 2002, 04:40
The AVISynth ResampleAudio(44100) "bug" with CCE is *well* documented. A quick scan of the AVISynth forum would probably show that...

But that wasn't your original problem. You wanted to open the .avs file and I told you how to do it, and in fact Boulder even confirmed it.

All beside the point, its good to see you're up and running.

craigslee
7th October 2002, 08:26
Howdy justmark

The ResampleAudio bug regarding AMD processors is *well* documented. Correct.

My request for help regarding "adding" avs files to CCE was not as clear as it should have been (but thats what happens when you're confused with apparently erratic program behaviour - I promise to try harder next time), I knew the file open process, however it was creating an error - Boulder, wmansir and uli finally understood me. Much appreciated!

The deletion of the "#" from the front of the line containing ResampleAudio(44100) in the avs script is a new one to me (and Boulder?), I searched for quite some time and found no joy (actually, it is suggested to exhaust all other opportunities before posting a thread). That is why I posted.

As I cannot find any occurence of this issue on any AVIsynth related sites or anywhere in this or other forums, It would be most kind of you(if you have the time, or anyone else for that matter), to direct me to the location of the "Delete # before ResampleAudio(44100)on this line ONLY" issue in avs scripting, as I wish to investigate the reasons why, and hopefully rectify this problem/conflict.

Thanks

wmansir
7th October 2002, 09:38
It's not really a "delete the #" issue because in Avisynth a '#' is used to start a comment line. Just like in most scripting languages, anything after a comment marker is striped before the script is interpreted. So to Avisynth your script:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\InspectorGadget_2.d2v")
BilinearResize(320,190,0,3,720,570)
#TemporalSmoother(2,2)
AddBorders(16,49,16,49)
#Trim(0,112789).FadeOut(150)
#ConvertToRGB24 # For TMPGEnc or VFAPI
#ResampleAudio(44100) # CCE 2.5 'crashfix' for Athlons
#== If you want this 'fix' permanently, edit the INI-file:
#== Under [AVSscript] set CCEcrashfix=1

Looks like this:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_ Backup\Inspectorgadget\InspectorGadget_2.d2v")
BilinearResize(320,190,0,3,720,570)
AddBorders(16,49,16,49)

Because all those # lines are removed.

Now, the fact that often CCE requires the ResampleAudio is well documented. It's actually a work-around for a known bug in CCE 2.5. That's why programs that generate avisynth scripts, like FitCD and Gnot, have a fix CCE option.

Boulder
7th October 2002, 15:36
Originally posted by craigslee
Howdy justmark

The deletion of the "#" from the front of the line containing ResampleAudio(44100) in the avs script is a new one to me (and Boulder?), I searched for quite some time and found no joy (actually, it is suggested to exhaust all other opportunities before posting a thread). That is why I posted.


Actually I did suggest removing the mark :D

craigslee
7th October 2002, 23:00
I'm on a steep learning curve here guys, and its been made so much easier with your assistance. It would be certainly just as easy to give up on the frustration of assisting newbies.

RE: '#" issue, Indeed you did boulder, my sincerest apologies :D

Also wmansir, your posts have been incredibly informative and helpful.

Thank you.:)