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Arky
4th October 2002, 13:15
News! according to Oleg's site, there is a new build of CCE-SP already (surprise, surprise!). (previous build was 2.66.01.01)

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1. Cinema Craft Encoder SP Version 2.66.01.02 released. Limitation of Trial version :
1. A logo will be inserted in the encoded stream.
2. Encoder control list cannot be saved or loaded.
3. Framewise setting is not available for Quality setting.

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Someone's gonna be REAL busy again... :rolleyes:


Arky ;o)

wmansir
4th October 2002, 14:51
From the changelog:Changes
- Added frame rate setting.

Bug Fixes
- Had a problem parsing wave file.
- Had a problem setting reference frame and timecode.
- Inverse 32 pulldown and panscan settings at template was not set.
And from the readme:<< Known bugs >>
1. VBR encoding with "3:2 pulldown detection" selected causes error.
2. MPEG-1 encoding may cause "bad MV detected" error.
Also, I noticed the readme requires WinXP, Win2k, or WinNT 4.0SP6. So the 2.66 series is the first not to support Win9x/ME, at least officially.

CHAOSMAN33
5th October 2002, 04:09
unless you know what your doing any upgrade from 2.50 isnt really needed

lastquark
5th October 2002, 19:18
If S*G has the blocky problem and Ts***mi have the advance set-up problem both on the 01, looks like Co**Fu**on have have the best of both and works on the 02. Anyone tried this yet? I didn't experience any noticeable difference in quality and speed than the trial version.

paulusz
5th October 2002, 23:29
I quote the classics (myself...:D )about CCE SP 2.66.01.02 + patch:
"- ecl cannot be saved as I read elsewhere (as a matter of fact, it's not a big issue for most of us...)
- the full Video quality settings screen is not available, like setting encoding parameters by timecodes (this one is missing altogether from the trial version so it could very well be impossible to patch it as it's just not there - again, most of us can live happily without this function)
In the other hand, this version with the patch allows us to use the better part of the advance settings without any extra workaround (templates settings) unlike in the earlier version (2.66.01.01 + patch)
Conclusion: it's the best so far"
Before I installed version 2.66.01.02, I manually deleted the earlier version 2.66.01.01 except the registry settings of the matrix from patcher 0.3.9. When installed the new version and its patch I still had the extra matrix options from the 0.3.9 patcher...the best of both worlds. Also as others earlier mentioned, don't bother with the plug-in version, use the full version with Premiere VideoServer utility. Takes roughly the same time to encode as the plug-in and gives access to the full power of CCE SP.

gldblade
6th October 2002, 01:26
Hmm... I can't get to Oleg's site.

This thread is bordering on breaking the rules. :) I wish I could pop the question, but that's would definitely break the rules.

Tsui
6th October 2002, 01:54
looks like Co**Fu**on have have the best of both and works on the 02

I don't understand.
what is 'Co**Fu**on' ?

ol si ?
de si ?

where.ehm.

please send me a pm or email

Greetings
Tsunami

Matthew
6th October 2002, 04:12
Originally posted by paulusz
- the full Video quality settings screen is not available, like setting encoding parameters by timecodes (this one is missing altogether from the trial version so it could very well be impossible to patch it as it's just not there - again, most of us can live happily without this function)
In the other hand, this version with the patch allows us to use the better part of the advance settings without any extra workaround (templates settings) unlike in the earlier version (2.66.01.01 + patch)

The encoding by timecodes bit has never been in the trial version has it?

I imagine people would mainly want to tweak after vaf creation anyway, and that feature is still available :)

Also, just to clarify it's not the patch that allows the use of advanced filtering without templates, the trial does as well :)

CHAOSMAN33
6th October 2002, 06:27
codefusion is not the cracker, its the crack engine used to patch it, actually its uknown who made it, it doesnt state, but anyways havent tested it, but was tough to find, good luck

paulusz
6th October 2002, 08:17
To Matthew,
"just to clarify it's not the patch that allows the use of advanced filtering without templates, the trial does as well"

Yeap, you are certainly right. You see, I haven't tested 2.66.01.02 without the patch, so I assumed it wouldn't do it...based on my experience with version 2.66.01.01. But now, reading your comments and finally reading the CCE SP trial's release notes... it all makes sense. Thanks for correcting on my mistaken observation.

"The encoding by timecodes bit has never been in the trial version has it?"

You are correct, it's not part of it (never was), therefore I don't think it will ever be "cracked"...and as I also mentioned earlier...most of us won't really miss it as you reasoned it so well: "people would mainly want to tweak after vaf creation anyway, and that feature is still available".

Matthew
6th October 2002, 11:31
Just thought I'd post a bug. If you encode with a template with timecode = 00 00 00 00 the right click->edit box is still set to 01 00 00 00 and that will be used unless you change that manually.

Found this the hard way, now I can't import my chapters properly.

BTW paulusz thanks for clearing up the bit about encoding by timecodes :)

paulusz
6th October 2002, 12:51
Timecode: 00:00:00:00 should be avoided for first frame since this value has special meaning to CCE... according to the user guide but it won't go into details why and how...
By the way, patcher 0.4.0 is available for all versions including the latest 2.66.01.02...

pinheads_hell
6th October 2002, 17:59
is the pro version better than Sp?

wmansir
7th October 2002, 00:01
The pro version is a hardware package, it includes a PC w/capture card and decoder board.

Matthew
7th October 2002, 02:11
Originally posted by paulusz
Timecode: 00:00:00:00 should be avoided for first frame since this value has special meaning to CCE... according to the user guide but it won't go into details why and how...

I noticed that, but if I don't then maestro won't import chapters properly (even after changing the figure to 0 in Maestro). I used a timecode of 00:00:00:00 on a film with the first build of 2.66. Watched it all the way through without any troubles.

BTW after using patcher 0.4.0 the cce exe is the same as after patching with afforementioned patch.

CHAOSMAN33
7th October 2002, 08:07
ssg released a new crackfix, it just says 2.66 though no clarification on which build it is, and dont quite understand what they fixed

lama
7th October 2002, 09:52
I have been using cce 2.5 for sometime now with avisynth.
I got hold of 2.66 but when I try to open an .avs file i get an error that it cannot open such a file.
Anyone can help?

Many Thanks / lama

m3taPT
8th October 2002, 01:08
Originally posted by CHAOSMAN33
ssg released a new crackfix, it just says 2.66 though no clarification on which build it is, and dont quite understand what they fixed

check the .nfo file included with it.

gurgenpb
8th October 2002, 06:24
thanks for the info guys.
G

FooFighter007
8th October 2002, 06:42
@gurgenpb

well you want a "mnemonic trick" for 0.4.0 - the direct translation from german is e "Donkey bridge" :D
Hope this small riddle helps!

I turned back to my good OLD ;) 2.64 as I haven't got time to play with 2.66 @ the moment.

Good luck!

Foo

gurgenpb
8th October 2002, 06:52
thanks. i do speak some german! lol!

mmgrover
8th October 2002, 07:27
Be forewarned, CCE 2.66.01.02 has a serious memory leak
after each Encoding job :-(

Run a a batch job and pretty soo all memory is gone!

I ran a batch with 6 jobs and CCE had used up over 1 gig of
my ram!!!!

Same group run under 2.5 used 210 meg ram max :-)


mike

leos_janacek
8th October 2002, 18:58
> Be forewarned, CCE 2.66.01.02 has a serious memory leak
> after each Encoding job :-(

I was getting this with 2.66.01.01 using AVISynth2. Check out this thread in the AVISYNTH forum:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35219

I'm not geting any leak with 2.66.01.01 with VFAPI, but I haven't yet tried 01.02.

- LJ

mmgrover
8th October 2002, 22:55
I added ResampleAudio(44100) back and my mem leaks went away :-)



mike

Gant
9th October 2002, 21:52
Well one minor question abuot something... talking about cracks and stuff is illegal... but one thing i would like to ask... the patcher to remore the crc code made for version 2.50... and to be honest i havent seen and therefor havent used any patcher for anyother version :( is this crc patcher illegal?

I hope not... cuase this sure helps a lot... and even though not having an illegal version the patcher would be a great addiction.

If it is not illegal to talk about.... does anyone know where i can find a crc patcher?

Will be sending PM to Tsunami Sama now :D

matta.

CHAOSMAN33
9th October 2002, 23:19
crc patcher is not illegal, as a mater of fact there is a link to it posted by dvd2svcd himself, in the dvd2svcd faq thread.

crjackson
15th October 2002, 22:13
Has anyone noticed that on the new version, when DVD compliant is selected, if you try to produce an mpg with 1/2 horizontal res. the resulting file is garbage...

You can still encode with 1/2 horizontal but you must deselect DVD compliant.

Faceman101
20th October 2002, 23:07
I had that same problem with 2.5.

crjackson
21st October 2002, 00:01
I only started using CCE with version 2.64 but that version didn't have the problem. I guess they got lonly for that particular bug and put it back in...;)

Faceman101
21st October 2002, 21:21
ha, maybe. i never used 2.64 regularly. it seems if you do Half D1, click DVD Compliant you wind up with a 352x480 picture within a 720x480 res. Not very nice surprise to have after 8hrs of encoding. I would guess this is the same in 2.66.

Dezoris
27th October 2002, 20:53
My question is does this version offer anything to improve the compression process or improve the end product pitcure quality over 2.50?

frank
29th October 2002, 16:49
The answer is NOOO!

mmgrover
29th October 2002, 16:56
I disagree!

After playing with the settings, I find the total size a lil smaller
and the quality just a tad better.

My speed also went from 1.55 in 2.5 to 1.7-1.8 in 2.66


mike

d121
30th October 2002, 07:51
Where could I get the user manual of CCE 2.66 (English version)?

Arky
30th October 2002, 09:13
The manual is included in the official trial download archive. Incidentally, the current official link is for build 2.66.01.04

h**p://www.cinemacraft.com/files/cce/ccspt266.zip


Arky ;o)