Will someone help with this miserable problem!!!

[Commander XJL]

I have had the problem of burning a DVD, and it will play on my computer and only on an Apex, but not be readable in any other standalone I can find, and this was with good media, more than one brand. This has happened with both my A04 and A03, with 4 different burning apps, and with different firmware. I know this is a burning problem, don't know if it has something to do with my IDE chain, whether or not the burner is slave or master, I just don't know, I just know its not software or media. If anyone has an idea lets hear it. I have an Asus motherboard running Win XP, Athlon XP 1800. Oh, and this doesn't happen to every disk I burn, but enough to tick me off real good! I have already tried switching from DMA to PIO mode, it didn't help! I think there is some incompatability between Pioneer burners and my system, just don't know what it is. I can burn a coaster, turn right around and burn the same job again and it will be fine.

[atreides93]

So your problems aren't due to cheap media anymore?

I really don't see how your system could affect the burns...either it doesn't finish and gives an error, or it finishes and works. Do you live in a high humidity area? maybe your burners are screwed up...

[Commander XJL]

Anyone who isn't an asshole have an idea? I read on another forum where someone was saying there is a problem with Pioneer burners and Asus systems running Athlon XP's and windows XP. Anyone know if that is true and if there is a fix? You've got no business being a moderator and how you got to be one is beyond me

[fletch]

Jeez.. That wasn't called for was it Commander XJL ?

Atreides93's reply seemed fair enough to me but then again, maybe I'm not as sensitive as you are..

Insulting mods is not gonna get you a long way around here I would guess..

[padre]

Well, it's nice to see that Commander's extensive use of the english language isn't just directed at me!

It amazes me, Commander. You seem to live to flame people on this board, calling them idiots and morons for not following your choices of media. Yet, in an act of desperation, you cry out for help from some of the same people you've insulted. Poetic justice.

[jesoonster]

hey commander. just wondering what range of dvd players you tried the media on.

[Commander XJL]

First of all, I always flame second not first. This was a real question and right off the bat one of the two or three little smart ass's on this forum just jumps right in. I guess when you know the other guy can't beat the crap out of you since its a forum its easier to be a smart ass. I've tried these dead DVD's on Pioneer, Sony, Toshiba, and Pioneer.

[padre]

Commander, for the record, I'd be talking to you the same way in person as I do in here. And, I'd imagine, you'd be your same charming self in person as well.

[Commander XJL]

Padre,

I highly doubt you'd ever talk this way to me in person, and if you did it wouldn't be for long.

[dvd_maniac]

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Can't we all just get along???
Commander, I think you have been a little dramatic in some other posts to people concerning bad media. So I think that now others find out that you have a general problem with your burns they are questioning your judgement, like maybe you your jumping the gun on cheaper media a little. If you look at it in there point of veiw it makes it seem like you are calling them stupid or cheap for using them. And everyone else should cut commander a little slack as he thought (or thinks) that there is (or was) a problem and was trying to save us from the same fate he had (or has)

12) How NOT to post on this forum:

"Once somebody replies to your thread but doesn't give you exactly the answer you've been expecting you insult them."
"Anyone who isn't an asshole have an idea?"
So let's please all stay productive and helpful...

[gooki]

Commander XJL I presume you ASUS Motherboard has a VIA chipset, Am i correct? If so please post the model number of you motherboard so we can tell what type of VIA chipset it is and then progress further.

Additionally, have you tested your ram? Is your cpu running hot? Are you using other applications while burning?

I know you are certain it isn't a software problem but...

...Have you preformed any windows updates?

...Have you installed SpruceUp lately?

...Have you formated and re-installed windows with zero updates and only one DVD writing application?

[gooki]

do you have access to another computer?

can install your dvd writer on that machine and comfirm if it is a writer problem or a system problem.

what type/model of power supply do you have?

[Commander XJL]

I got the answer from another forum and it looks I have to just live with it. I called Pioneer tech support and they verified it.

[gooki]

So what is the cause of the problem? Is it something specific to the ASUS motherboard? Also what's the model number of your ASUS board as I've just ordered one and I'd hate to have the same issues you have.

[Commander XJL]

I was right in the first place. Pioneer says there is an incompatability with the A03 and A04 burner and my motherboard (Asus VIA A7V333 Chipset ATX Motherboard w/ RAID) The tech guy said that they don't have much info on it yet but they know theres a problem. He said going to Windows Me may help but he wasn't sure. He said people running my motherboard with Windows XP are burning 1 or 2 in 10 DVD's that will play on their computers but for some reason not play on virtually any standalone. He said it was almost like the header info on the DVD is corrupt and your standalone just can't get the disk to start. I know it must be an awful small problem because if you take one of these coasters and rip it back to your computer and burn it again it will play fine so the file structure is fine on the disk. The tech guy said there are other reports of this problem with a few other Asus boards but not many. The only thing he didn't know was why the DVD's won't fire up and play, and thats what I want to know now. So now I know why it doesn't matter what burning app I use or what media. I wish I had more info on this and if there is a fix, I still don't even know what is causing these disks to not play, so I really don't have any more answers than I had. Pioneer better get it figured out, or I'm gonna call them and use some of my famous super vulgar horrible language like I use on the forum sometimes, then I'm gonna threaten to beat them up.

[gooki]

I just ordered the ASUS A7S333 to replace my ageing Soltek 75KAV motherboard. So hopefully since it's a SIS chipset it won't display the same issues as you have described.

Good luck getting ASUS/Pioneer to sort out the problem.

[tumbar]

Pioneer better get it figured out, or I'm gonna call them and use some of my famous super vulgar horrible language like I use on the forum sometimes, then I'm gonna threaten to beat them up.

Go easy on them Commander.

Just let them know a couple of new drives, the A05's of course, and a few 100 ct spindles of new media from them, 4X also, will make up for the inconvenience they have caused...don't forget the mental anguish, yeah the mental anguish!

Personally I'm kinda pissed about this 1.32 firmware.

regards :confused:

[Commander XJL]

I still would pay either money or sex to find out what makes a DVD with good file structure play on a computer but not on a standalone. It really is putting the zap on my head. By not play I mean just not start, its like you put the DVD in and your standalone says: What the F-ck is this? Does anyone know enough about DVDR's to know what could be wrong with a disk so that it won't play on a standalone but will play on a computer? Maybe I should sell one of my Pioneer drives (or both) and buy another drive

[gooki]

Commander XJL

I presume you already know this but just incase you don't.

How much data is on the DVD-R's you are burning?

Main reason I ask is because when I did a whole lot of media testing a few months back we found that unless your DVD is over 520MB (i personaly recomend 1GB+ to our customers) a lot of standalone players fail to recognise it as a DVD disc, but rather attempt to read them as if they were a CD hence nothing happens.

[Commander XJL]

Oh ya they were all 4 gig or more, wish I new why these disks aren't recognized, I really am interested, I might call Pioneer back and see if some other tech person knows

[atreides93]

Commander what do you mean you were right all along? You have been blaming bad media for your problems for months now. Now you suddenly find out its really because of your motherboard and computer. Basically you've proven how wrong you've been all this time.

Your name calling is really immature.

[mpucoder]

This has been touched on in many different threads, but just to clarify one more time. Standalones do not use the file system except to find the VIDEO_TS folder, after that they depend on the contents of video_ts.ifo, and within title sets, on vts_xx_0.ifo . PCs, on the other hand, do use the file system, and ignore the pointers within the ifo files. So, you can see, it is very easy for one to work and not the other, and to be able to recover and correct the pointers with a PC.
Also, as a side effect, if the data is not placed on the DVD exactly as the ifo files dictate, a standalone will not be able to play the disk. That means no re-arrangeing the data because of a defect (real, or the result of bad communication with the drive)

[Swede]

I haven't seen this thread. Too bad. Then I would have stiked you 'Commander XJL' 3 days ago.
Calling anyone an a**hole is NOT what we want/need around here no matter what!
No matter what your problem is we're all, in fact, here trying to help and namecalling is NOT the way to go.
I still would pay either money or sex If this is the way you feel pls. stay away until you resolved your matters.

Rgds,
Swede, not the most liked guy around here.

[Commander XJL]

atreides93

I cannot believe how you can't read. This problem is not the same problem as what I had with cheap media. With cheap media I had the same problems as so many others: pixalation, skipping, freezing, ect. This is a totally different thing where a disk is not recognized. Why do you lip off or even reply to a post when you clearly can't read? What a joke. Now you've proven once again how much you pay attention and understand things. Your lipping off when you don't know what your talking about is WORSE than immature, me not putting up with it is NOT immature

[Commander XJL]

Swede

Why don't you read this thread again. I started it with a real question that mattered. atreides93 then comes back with a totally lippy and unhelpful response so I defend myself. Then he comes back with another lippy response, this time proving he hasn't even read or understood a thing I've said. This guy is a moderator? You talk about this forum is for helping people, has his remarks been helping anybody? Moderators are usually the sensible professional people on a forum, I guess this forum works diffrent

[padre]

Originally posted by Commander XJL
atreides93 then comes back with a totally lippy and unhelpful response so I defend myself

Commander, how many times have we seen you coming back with "you must be an idiot" or "Only a moron would still be using generic/cheap media"...if that's not totally lippy off and unhelpful response, I don't know what is. You seem to like to dish it out but not take it very well.

I have seen you post some helpful stuff, but I've seen much more of berating people and also blaming 'cheap media' for all sins. You're not helping anyone when you take aim at the only thing you think it is, rather than helping people identify their real problems.

Like I said before, if you don't like how the moderators are doing their jobs, or you don't like the choices of moderators themselves, you have a simple solution....don't post or view messages here. If you choose to do so, then you imply that you agree with the rules (or at least the rules of decent society) and will abide by them.

Oh, and good luck with your threats to the Pioneer guy.

[Commander XJL]

You said it yourself Padre, I come back with it, I don't start it

[Swede]

Since the usefullness of this thread has long gone I'll just close it. We don't want/need flamewars here NO matter who started it.