How to rip DVD perfect

[myhondavp]

Hi everyone !
Sorry for this stupid question but i did try all my best to ripDVD to SVCD but i'm still not happy with it. I"m using CCE 2.50 and TMPG but no luck. I mean i picture was so great if there are no action in the movie, what i mean when people moving too much and more action then the picture goes so bad like real bad.... but compare to the movie other person rip, it was so great and i can not compare with it.. and i would love to know how they can rip so perfect with any kind movie. Is there any thing that require to RipDVD perfect ?...thank for your help. you can reply here or email to me at : myhondavp@yahoo.com ... THank again:)

[hoozdapimp]

you need to post your logfile so we can see what settings your using

[chainsaw135]

All posts like this go in the basic topics section please read around this forum as there is a few methods that yield more then good results when making a svcd. I suggest you read the sticky's at the top of this forum and the advanced forum also.

[UltimateDBZ]

Most likely your bitrate is too low, but like hoozdapimp said, we're gonna need a log from one of your conversions to tell you what you're doing wrong, and what you can do better.

[myhondavp]

Key found: CF43112000
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- 12/22/2002 9:10:28 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 12/22/2002 9:10:33 PM
- Free on drive C: 16006.51 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 2522

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- 12/22/2002 9:48:56 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\DVD_RIP\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\DVD_RIP\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\DVD_RIP\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\DVD_RIP\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\DVD_RIP\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\DVD_RIP\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\DVD_RIP\VTS_01_6.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Hybrid Film activated. IVTC will be applied and will slow down the entire process!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 12/22/2002 9:52:07 PM
- Free on drive C: 11374.58 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\DVD_RIP\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -82 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 12/22/2002 9:57:51 PM
- Free on drive C: 10978.43 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\DVD_RIP\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\DVD_RIP\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\DVD_RIP\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\DVD_RIP\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -82 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\DVD_RIP\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 12/22/2002 10:34:11 PM
- Free on drive C: 10846.37 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 12/22/2002 10:34:21 PM
- Free on drive C: 10845.41 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 140497420
VideoPAPO: 33564816
ScanOffsetBytes: 249012
SeqAligningBytes: 15826096
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2117155408.00
Seconds: 8663.90
CalcMPEGStream: 2117155408.00
Frames: 207510
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 207510
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 20
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1954
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD_RIP\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
SmartDeinterlace(2,10,True,False,True)
SimpleResize(480,480)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.410
Video Encoding finished.

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- 12/24/2002 8:08:36 AM
- Free on drive C: 8778.52 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "C:\DVD_RIP\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 12/24/2002 8:15:20 AM
- Free on drive C: 6909.96 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\DVD_RIP\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 12/24/2002 8:15:25 AM
- Free on drive C: 6909.92 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\DVD_RIP\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 12/24/2002 8:15:29 AM
- Free on drive C: 6909.88 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2805 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2807
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3049 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5856
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 12/24/2002 8:32:12 AM
- Free on drive C: 4709.90 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2807.902 seconds C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3051.337 seconds C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2797.897 seconds C:\DVD_RIP\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 12/24/2002 8:33:13 AM
- Free on drive C: 4709.89 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 2

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DVD_RIP\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\DVD_RIP\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\DVD_RIP\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 12/24/2002 8:34:53 AM
- Free on drive C: 3964.47 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 2

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DVD_RIP\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\DVD_RIP\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\DVD_RIP\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
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- 12/24/2002 8:36:33 AM
- Free on drive C: 3219.36 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 3

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DVD_RIP\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="C:\DVD_RIP\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "C:\DVD_RIP\VCDXBuild_Script_3.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 12/24/2002 8:38:38 AM
- Free on drive C: 2478.68 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[markrb]

This seems to be a tough film.

I might be wrong, but I don't think you want to de-interlace and run IVTC. I don't think you do both.
Try shutting off Smart-deinterlace.
I have never done an interlaced source so I am guessing, but give it a try.

Mark

[manono]

Hi-

You're right, markrb. Decomb's Telecide() has FieldDeinterlace built in by default. No need for 2 deinterlacers. But that doesn't really explain his main problem. What's the name of this movie? How long is it? Is it full screen or wide screen? I'm also thinking it's a not very compressible movie. Might have to put on a filter or 2 to aid the compressibility (Convolution3D can work wonders on tough movies, but will almost triple the encoding time).

[myhondavp]

I try to rip movie "Friends", and it's full screen. And the reason why i'm using Smart-deinterlace because i was send an email to you guy before and this is what one of you guy told me what to do because the picture goes bad with more action. But so you saying that with different movie i may have to do with different setting to rip it perfect ? so i may have to try for couples time before i can find out with setting will rip the dvd perfect ??. Thanks

[UltimateDBZ]

It's nearly impossible to convert a DVD 'perfectly'. There will always be imperfections because of the lesser quality ouput. Your best results will take alot of tests and experience, and in order to get great, near-perfect results on a specific film, you'll likely have to do it more than once, especially if you're a beginner.

[markrb]

Yes there are different source types.
Some will require you to deinterlace while others will not.
Some will require IVTC, while others can used Forced Film.
For me 95%+ of my movies use Forced Film and do not need deinterlacing.
I do NTSC movies.

Mark