Strange Video Quality with Disney's Hercules

[majagua]

I am re encoding Hercules, the Disney Movie.

I am following the Robshot method for reencoding, and i am even performing a multi pass re encoding process, with the following options selected:

Linear Quantizer Scale
Upper Field First
Progressive Frames

But the video is not fluid. In parts where there is a lot of motion, some strange lines (contour lines of the characters in the film) appear and begin to flash...in other words, the characters, when they move, are not well defined and not fluid.

I have also chosen in Quality Settings the Complext bits to 5, and i have deactivated the anti noise filter.

I have played around with many of the video options in CCE, with no success.

Can somebody help me with this?????

[mmatac]

At the moment, I'm trying to rip & encode the Disney "Monsters e Co" dvd from Pixar.
Some strange things happen.
If I open the principal IFO file (Vts_09_0.ifo) with DVDx 2.0, the error message appear telling of an "mpeg2dec error".
If I try to strip with SmartRipper (Movie mode), the output vob Vts_09_1.vob file is not correct: too short.
The first part of the movie is lost.

I'm not a great expert, but neither a newbie.
I read other threads about the disney dvd, and I thing that Pixar uses some trick on dvd to create troubles for the ripping software.

bye

[JOJOLINO]

@mmatac
I thing that is the wrong forum for you, it's about CCE

Some VOBs I ripped with smartripper are also corrupted.
With DVDDecryper anything is correct, I don't know why.
I've ripp Monsters (german PAL) with no problems!

@majagua

What is your method?
Do you work with avisynth?
If yes, how looks your script?
Witch version do you have (2.5)?
What's your bitrate?
What is your matrix you load in cce?

[Boulder]

The good old advice: if everything else fails, use vStrip:D

[majagua]

I use VFApi for my movies.

The bitrate i am using is 3500 kbps globally.

I've tried incrementing the bitrate quality, but still, the same results.

Even when i view that movie timeline in the advanced settings (when you choose multipass), the background is green and the quality seems good.

I am using CCE 2.50.

My method is DVD2AVI-VFAPi-CCE 2.50 - DVD Maestro

Please help!

[JOJOLINO]

How looks your avs script?
With this bitrate and a animation movie cce must encode with very good results.
Try this script:

LoadPlugin("MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("k:\movie\movie.d2v") --->your path
ResampleAudio(44100) ---> AMD bug

No cropping and resizing.

If you have the original movie, you can extract a critical sequence (with DVD2AVI) and reencode it with different settings.

In cce:
Video enable: Add sequence end code, Upper field first, Progressive Frames Zigzag scanning order
Luminance level 16 to 235
Intra DC precision 9 or 10
Aspect ratio DAR 16:9
GOP strukture (you can make a experiment with 1-5-1 (only P and I frames)
No audio
Anti noise off
Image quality priority you can set it to NULL

What about the matrices?
You can load a alternative matrix with Tsunamis cce patcher.
There are a matrix for animation movies available

No more ideas :confused:

Good luck!

[FilipeAmadeuO]

Image quality priority to NULL ???
How do you do it ???

[luders]

I used your rip method for quite a while but found that my new method is much easier since you can always use it and just see which looks good. I use DVD2AVI-AviSynth-CCE-Maestro
What is nice about this is that you can always just set DVD2AVI's field operation to none and use Avi-Synth to undo the effects of 3:2 pulldown and interlacing. It also does a better job and lets you do both if you have a dvd that is all mixed. It is also nice because you can make as many scripts as you want for AviSynth to compare them instantly. You can look at the individual frames for quality in Virtual Dub. Just pull in the AVS files. Then slame the one you want into CCE. A couple notes on using CCE 2.5 on XP or 2000 with AVS files. You must run CCE using Compatibility mode NT Service Pack 5 and you need some audio reference in your AVS or it will crash.