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Amit
21st September 2002, 23:02
Hi!,

Please, don't shout at me for not reading teh FAQ or not searching the forum. I know whenever someone points a CCE problem lately, (s)he gets lot of kicks from the mods.

I have been trying to encode "Satte Pe Satta". Its an Hindi language movie in NTSC. Since, I want to cut the CD at specific points instead of D2S 1.0.9B3 to choose a cut point, I divided the whole movie into 3 CDs. With chapters 1-9 on CD1, 10-17 on CD2 and 18-24 on CD3. The CD1 & CD3 went well without any problem. But CD2 always crashes the CCE. Since, my CCE is ok as I can encode any other clip, I tried to look into chapters of CD2 manually.

I loaded the ECL file from CD1 and then from CD3, they both are same. When I load the ECL file from CD2 into CCE, the UPPER field first is checked. This was not checked in CD1 and CD3 (the ECL files are created by D2S). I thought, maybe D2S made a mistake so I unchecked the UPPER field first and try to encode. After sometime, the CCE speed starts increasing. I read in the forum, that CCE speed increase means a difinte creash so I stopped the encoding (this hapen when creating VAF). Now, I tried it with UPPER field first checked and the same thing while creating VAF file.

My guess is that somewhere the field order changes which causes the CCE to crash. So, I tried it with TMPG. After the muxing when I play the movie, the movie losses its sync with audio after sometime.

Guys, is there any manual way to handle the field order change? I want to use CCE as the performance is much superior. But if that's not possible, I can live iwth TMPG also.

Thanks
-Amit

PS: In all the CCE tries Anti-Noise filter in CCE is set to 2. I am now trying without checking Anti-Noise filter. ALso, the AVS file used is given below:

LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\SATTEP~1\CD2\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SmartDeinterlace(2,10,True,False,True)
BicubicResize(480,480,0,0.6)

manono
22nd September 2002, 01:01
Hi-

You might try to IVTC with Decomb instead of Force Film. It can handle field order changes without trouble, if indeed that's your problem.

By the way-why did you use Smart Deinterlace? Ordinarily you shouldn't need it if the film has been telecined properly. And if you neither Force Filmed nor IVTC'd (as may be the case), then try it.

markrb
22nd September 2002, 03:38
Try again and post a log file. Without a log there is little to go on.

Mark

Amit
22nd September 2002, 15:58
@manono
I did what manono said. The bbmpeg muxed file contains some movie and then all it has is an AVISYNTH error

"Avisynth: Caught an access violation at 0x0fecb8c4, attempting to access to 0x0ff1013e"

Here's the D2S log of 1.0.9b3

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- 9/22/2002 1:04:15 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 9/22/2002 1:04:19 AM
- Free on drive G: 30996.05 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob

Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 4978

Trying to eject the DVD
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- 9/22/2002 1:11:32 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\VTS_01_1.vob,G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\VTS_01_2.vob,G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\VTS_01_3.vob]
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 9/22/2002 1:12:39 AM
- Free on drive G: 28924.52 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -141 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 9/22/2002 1:16:02 AM
- Free on drive G: 28757.63 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "G:\SATTEP~1\CD2\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "G:\SATTEP~1\CD2\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -141 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 9/22/2002 1:30:14 AM
- Free on drive G: 28674.22 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 833934864
AudioSectors: 88869760
VideoPAPO: 11541456
ScanOffsetBytes: 89897
SeqAligningBytes: 5713441
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 727720306.13
Seconds: 3131.54
CalcMPEGStream: 727720306.13
Frames: 74914
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 74914
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1859
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\INVERS~1\DONALD~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\SATTEP~1\CD2\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
BicubicResize(480,480,0,0.6)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.570
Video Encoding finished.

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- 9/22/2002 4:23:20 AM
- Free on drive G: 28206.14 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 9/22/2002 4:24:52 AM
- Free on drive G: 27756.40 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
--------------------------------------------------------
- 9/22/2002 4:24:55 AM
- Free on drive G: 27756.40 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 9/22/2002 4:24:58 AM
- Free on drive G: 27756.40 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 9/22/2002 4:27:09 AM
- Free on drive G: 27208.39 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3123.461 seconds G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 9/22/2002 4:27:32 AM
- Free on drive G: 27208.38 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 7

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "G:\Satte Pe Satta\CD2\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 9/22/2002 4:28:50 AM
- Free on drive G: 26652.42 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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The Avisynth file is in my Windows\System32 and Program files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth. The size of the file is 200kb and the version is 1.0 beta7d. This is same file that DVD2SVCD posted sometime back in one of the thread in this forum.

The D2S 1.0.9b3 contains the AVISYNTH whose filesize is 196kb so I replaced it with the 200kb filezise as 196kb one causes CCE crashes on my machine.

Any idea, what I can do in my situation?

Thanks
-Amit