dup-dvd problem

[spiderman]

hello all
i have this dup-dvd but dont know what to do next..i have read me files..but i am confused.
all i want to do is copy my dvd to vcd so what do i have to set the option to?

DVD to VCD?
DVD to SVCD?
DVD to a image file?
image file to a CD-R/RW?
MPEG file to a CD-R/RW?

help?
Thanks
Spidy:confused:

[jggimi]

The easiest way to make standard VCDs from DVDs is by usijng the DVD2SVCD package. The guide for DVD2SVCD shows SVCD creation. Here are the changes you make to create VCDs:

1) Load the VCD .ini file from the options tab
2) Make sure that MPEG-1 is selected for the encoding format
3) Make sure that CBR encoding is selected.

[spiderman]

ok thanks..but i used dup-dvd yesterday and put in the blank and the film and let it "rip" all night..got up this morning and all i have is a "bin file" and it is 304.185 kb but i cannot open it as it says i have not got anything on the machine to open it with..so it directed me to a website where i could get it from and it said again not able to use this program with dup-dvd.what am i doing?
wingman.

[jggimi]

I don't know "dup-dvd" -- but a .bin file, well, that I do know. It is a cd-image file in CDRwin format. There should also be a short, text file with the same name and a file type of .cue as well in the same directory. Together, the .bin and .cue file are used to burn a cd...and they can be in any valid cd format. In this case, they should be in Video CD format.

I'm aware of 3 cd-burning software products besides CDRwin that can burn from .cue/.bin files: Nero, Fireburner, and Blindwrite.

For lots of information on VCD, SVCD, and other video CD formats, as well as a database of standalone dvd players and their video CD capabilities, please click on www.vcdhelp.com.

[spiderman]

ok thanks again..just going to look.

[xnakx]

I agree with jggimi

DVD2SVCD is the eaisest and best (IMHO) way to go.
many people including me have had problems with dup-dvd. most the images it creates are either corrupt or only in the 100's of K's in size.

for thoses who don't know what DUP-DVD is go here
http://www.dup-dvd.com

XnakX

[spiderman]

ok thanks for the reply..im going to d/load it now and try it..will you help me if i get stuck ?
:confused:

[spiderman]

and also regarding dvd2vcd is that all i need to d/load or do i need a decoder also ?

[spiderman]

and sorry to chuck so many questions at you but all i can find is ezdvd2vcd is this the same one?
Thanks
Spidy

[jggimi]

If you follow Doom9's guide for dvd2svcd, the only procedural changes you'll have to make are the three I described above.

The guide shows you that you'll encoding software, either CCE or TMPgenc, and the guide includes links.

It also shows you that you need cd burning software capable of using .bin/.cue files. I use blindwrite (www.blindwrite.com) for those, even though I use Nero for almost everything else.

There are many people on this forum who would be delighted to help you if you have further questions, once you read the guide.

[xnakx]

DVD2SVCD can be found here
http://www.dvd2svcd.org

and you will need to download a encoder (CCE or TMPEG)
their is documentation a plenty and of course this fourm!

XnakX

Slow to post!

[spiderman]

which do i click on to download?..i have tryed mirror 1 but cannot get the page to load

[xnakx]

try all mirrors one should work

[spiderman]

1) Load the VCD .ini file from the options tab
2) Make sure that MPEG-1 is selected for the encoding format
3) Make sure that CBR encoding is selected.

cant find the first one to change ....where do i find this ..i cannot see any options tab?

and downloaded the encoder..all i do with that is go into encoder tab and open it up into the little bar...like this is what it reads..."C:\unzipped\TMPGEnc-2.58.44.152-Free\TMPGEnc.exe"

correct so far

Spidy

[xnakx]

i belive he ment the misc tab for the first two and the encoder tab for the last change.
when you get the encoder(s) just make sure the location is correct on the encoder tab.

XnakX

[jggimi]

I cannot recommend strongly enough that you follow Doom9's guides. For DVD2SVCD, the guide can be found by clicking on http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvd2svcd.htm

I misled you -- the tab to load the .ini file from is labelled "Misc." and to load the .ini you must push the button labelled "Load Settings".

Good luck!

[Edit: xnakx snuck in ahead of me.. Yes, I meant select CBR in the "Video Encoding Mode" box of the Encoder tab.]

[spiderman]

load settings? in misc ?

[jggimi]

yes!

[spiderman]

so i have to load the ini files from the dvd i am trying to copy?
and what will it be called?as there are cabinets..cthv..demo..jacket..setup..video ts?
sorry to be a pain but i am trying to do this before i go to bed
thanks
Spidy

[xnakx]

vcd ini file is located in the dvd2svcd directory.
i could try to answer all your questions but it might be better if you tore into the guides like jggimi suggested. and why vcd and not svcd? quality is much much better as longs as you don't care about the number of cd's required for a full movie.


XnakX

[jggimi]

The .ini files for svcd and vcd come with the dvd2svcd suite. You'll find them in, typically, c:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD...

[spiderman]

hi jgg i have finally finished ripping the dvd..took me 40 hours to do (is this correct) anyway..i just went into nero to try to burn the bin files..i have 2 cue files also but they are only like a couple of kb's but i go into nero and click on burn image then i select the cd1 bin file and then a "foreign image settings" box appears and i have type of image=data mode 1 but when i click ok, another box appears saying "entered block size does not correspond to image length, block size may be wrong, correct the value or ignore" ?

what do i do?..and do i need to rip all over again..please tell me i haven't please.
Thanks
Spidy.

buy the way i have looked through the forum help but couldent find anything.

[xnakx]

the .cue files should ony be a few 'k' in size.
the .bin files should be 730-810 meg.
what version of nero are you running?
have you moved the bin and or cue files, i can't remember but some cue files are directory sensitive. you can open the .cue file in notepad and check where it says the bin file should be. if it only has the name of the bin file and no path (c:\path\to\binfile.bin) as long as the two files are in the same directory things should go ok.

if errors still arize try using daemon-tools to check out the image.
or actully maybe you should do that first. there is plenty info on where and how to get daemon-tools on doom9's site.

XnakX

[spiderman]

hi just looked at the .cue files in notepad and this is what they say..

FILE "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" BINARY

the only difference within the lines are cd1.bin and cd2.bin
is this ok?
spidy

[xnakx]

yeah and as long as both the bin and cue files are still in C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ things should burn ok if the files are propper.

check the files with d-tools(mount a bin image as a virtual drive)
http://www.daemon-tools.com/daemon_tools.htm
if they no work there the the images are bad i suppose
XnakX

[spiderman]

ok will look at that site now..just burned the cd1 bin file and played it and it started great but everything was going at double the speed, the sound was great though...what is the problem do you think?

[jggimi]

Check you standalone player out at the database at www.vcdhelp.com if you have not already done so. There may be limitations with the player -- quite common.

I have Nero, but prefer blindwrite for bin/cue writing.

[spiderman]

i tryed the vcd's on the stand alone and they will not play at all..but they will play on the dvd player on the pc i have..but disk 1 plays as if everything is in slow motion and does not matter if i change the speed it will just play in slow motion..but the sound is perfect.
and disk 2 plays perfect but i have no sound on that one..and also it will not play on the stand alone..and i know the stand alone will play vcd's no problem..it is the alba 108.

what have i done wrong..i have looked through the configuration and changed bits and pieces to try it but nothing seems to work.
i am using nero v5 to burn by the way.

any idea's

Spidy.:mad:

[xnakx]

wow i have never experianced a problem like that, usally they will or will not work on a pc and on a standalone, well things can get all funky there.

will they play on a standard cd-rom drive?
what software are you using to play them?
do you still have the final mpeg files (bb_muxed_file_xx.mpg) if so try to view them. if they play allright then you can look for problems in the image creation and or burning steps.

XnakX

[jggimi]

According to the reports in the database, in order to play svcds on your player player you need a "hack." (I didn't look further to see which one, may players are capable of playing svcd but only with vcd headers.)

There are 24 reports there, I didn't go through them all; I suggest you do so.

www.vcdhelp.com/dvdplayers.php

[spiderman]

yes jjgimi i am aware of the hack i need to use on my dvd player and i use that with no problems.
just tryed the disk 1 on a stand alone cd-rom player on a different pc.after inserting the vcd it came up in my computer as "vcd1" then when i open that it has 4 folders in it..ext..extra..mpegav..vcd.

i am using power dvd v2.55 to play them.
just tryed to play the cd image file cd1 bin file,. using power dvd but it wont seem to play from the hard drive..but then again iom not 100% sure about what to do there.

Thanks
Spidy.

[spiderman]

another update..just used nero to burn the .cue files, did that and tryed playing it in the stand alone dvd and it played, but now i have macrovision i think..all funny colours and squares..i thought that buy ripping with dvd2vcd disabled this feature ?.

but when i burn the .bin files it will not play at all on the standalone player.

do i burn the .cue or the .bin

sorry to be a pain

Spidy.

[jggimi]

You can't "play" a .bin file, that is a cd-image in CDRwin format.

If you retained the MPEG files, those you can attempt to play, as xnakx suggested.

[spiderman]

the only mpeg file i have is encoded audio 1 movie file 79.298kb
if i play this i can listen to all the movie but cannot see anything..is this what u mean?

[spiderman]

sorry but i have just found this file under TMPG inside it says encoded video TMPG NTSC mpv file 1.380.533
is this what you mean?
i can watch the whole film using media player with this but i have no sound.

[xnakx]

is there a .mpg file in the same directory you found the mpv(video only) file.
and as for you bin cue question, a .cue file contains track information or a map of the data that is contained in the .bin file, bin=raw cd image.

if you did not recieve the color blocks when you viewed the file in media player then perhaps the bitrate is too high for your standalone player (this is where my knoldge of things start to drop). does the disk work in powerdvd. once agian i don't know much about powerdvd. you described the directory structure of a vcd. if needs be try to have powerdvd or media player open the .dat file in the mpegav directory on the disc.

[spiderman]

so if the bitrate is too high for my stand alone player can i do anything to lower that or do i have to rip it all again at a lower bitrate ?

and the disk worked once in the dvd on the pc using power dvd but it played in slow motion but with perfect sound..but now for some reason it wont play anymore in power dvd, it will play in media player but with no sound.

i think i will cut my losses and leave it at that..i have been at this now for the last 4 days..my doctor has given me vallium to cope :(

thanks a lot for trying to help anyway it's much appriciated.

Spidy.

[xnakx]

the bitrate would of needed to be adjusted before encoding.
and i understand any frustration you are having. but don't worry once you get things going right it will be real easy.
anyway when you got a lot of time reset dvd2svcd to defaults (svcd creation preferably with cce 2.5) and slap in another dvd and see how things turn out there.

I have ripped 114 dvd's and converted many avi's with this software bundle.


XnakX

[spiderman]

how long does it take you to rip the dvd then?..took me 40 hours.

[xnakx]

how fast is your system

i am on a p3 866 with 256M and from start to finish it takes me ~9 hours.


XnakX

[spiderman]

i have a pentium 650 mhz with 192 mg ram.
not that much of a difference there really?

[xnakx]

are you using CCE or tmpeg?

[spiderman]

TMPGENC

[spiderman]

TMPGENC is there a difference then in speed?

[xnakx]

very big speed diffrence at least with svcd
give it a try

[spiderman]

ok will try it now..i will let you know.
Thanks
Spidy.