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Pabloantoine
14th September 2002, 05:39
All these of course about splits that play perfectly in IfoEdit 932:

1-I was able so far to split successfully with IfoEdit, but I am always hampered at the burning stage by the W98SE FAT32 limitations when trying to use ImgTools. Everybody knows probably that it crashes when it reaches 4GB, so I have to seriously strip content down to under 4GB for any of the 2 discs.
I am thus forced to maiming the DVD contents -extras, subpicture and others which actually add up to the experience of the DVDs,- and possibly later regret. It's unfair for the ammount of work involved. Stripping more content also drives to more coasters very often -it seems so from the mass of posts here. Ommissions, errors, confusions with IfoEdit modus operandi become more frequent when the process gets too complicated.

2-I also couldn't convince PrimoDVD from Prassi to accept any VIDEO_TS folder coming from IFOedit that it's a "legal" DVD content, so it logs me every time with an "incorrect VIDEO_TS folder formatting" and spits the blanc out. So the advantage of having a great "legal" tool that records 4.7 GB is lost and I really don't understand why.
(I'm amazed that so few people complain about it because it's the most reliable burn tool and it comes packed with the most popular drive -Pioneer A03/ A04)

What other alternatives are left for reliable splitting?

Sparkplug
15th September 2002, 10:45
To by pass these kind of problems (FAKE illegal DVD structure violation). To burn the DVD-R directly from the edited files
(without make image) use NERO Burning Rom (attention not NERO Express!) and all works like a charm.

Pabloantoine
16th September 2002, 20:12
I tried VOB instant disc much touted somewhere here and although discs play fine in my standalone and in IfoEdit, in Power DVD they are rejected as "being scratched or damaged to prevent reading" -which makes me suspicious of it.
Still, I have a problem translating in English your first sentence:
"To by pass these kind of problems (FAKE illegal DVD structure violation)".:rolleyes:
Thanks for the Nero suggestion anyway.

jmonfm
25th September 2002, 13:09
I had exactly the same problem with VOB Instant CD/DVD in Power DVD. I now use Prazzi Primo DVD.
The illegal DVD content comes from the fact that the VIDEO_TS.IFO file is looking for Vobsets that you have stripped out as they are not wanted.
Some solutions that I have come across.

1. Scrap the menu and run the film through IFOEdit creating new Ifo & Video_TS files. Works every time but just film on autostart.
2. Copy over just the IFO, BUP and VTS_xx_0.VOB files from the missing vobsets. Works most of the time, but not always.
3. In Primo DVD uncheck the option to check for DVD conformity in the project. This does work but you could have compatibility problems with some Standalones.

The VIDEO_TS : AUDIO_TS folders should then burn fine as long as you have done all of the previous stages correctly.

Just as an aside, I use FAT32 and if you use DVDDecrypter to create an ISO Image file from a DVD5 disc - It will create one larger than 4Gb but writes a large file with smaller files, one being a DVD file. If you then select the .DVD file, it will write the disc and do a perfect disc greater than 4Gb. I wonder if that can be adapted to creating an image from a HD?

Just a thought - Happy Ripping.

Pabloantoine
27th September 2002, 03:00
Thanks for the insights.
Still, some clarification needed here.
"2. Copy over just the IFO, BUP and VTS_xx_0.VOB files from the missing
vobsets. Works most of the time, but not always. "
Means that we give up all the extras' substance (VOB_xx_n), which is close to sollution 1 ("scrap the menu")? The one thing I hate is to give up the extras and menus, because then it's no big difference from taping a DVD on a good tape or playing ripped files from your HD/graphics card/TV out. There's not much IfoEdit can help... Smartripper and DVDDecrypter do most of this job fairly easy in stream mode.
The sollution 3 "uncheck the option in Primo DVD for compliance" I read somewhere that is disastruous and tested it myself (it gave me a "Bad Disk" in my standalone). My impression is that unchecking the compliance in Primo DVD leads to writing the sectors of the blanc in a totally different fashion (data DVD) than needed for a video (UDF) DVD. A PC DVD drive will read it, but no standalone will do.
I wonder if the VOB instant Disk could not finally do the job, but the techs from the company won't say why the writing is compatible with the standalone but goes belly up in Power DVD -maybe too scared to give secrets away.
Maybe Derrow could help here -he says somewhere he likes this tool.