Tough Disney movie

[hoops10]

I am backing up Snow White and it has something I've never seen before. It has 3 PGC's in the main movie vts set and in PGC 1, it has 2 angles. (So, it has multiple angles inside multiple pgcs).

It looks like this:
PGC 1 [01:23:28]
- Angle 1
- Angle 2

PGC 2 [00:00:00] <---- what is this about, no time??
PGC 3 [00:00:02]

How do I treat this movie? How do I rip it? How do I author it? I want to keep the menus, main movie and 1 audio stream.

[Doom9]

for the multiangle part: the seamless branching guide by OxP should be applicable (it's a major pain in the ass, I know... it would be easier if you stripped the one angle with the French credits (or Spanish?) away in Ifoedit first, then you have to re-author with only one angle), as for the other two PGCs that part is covered in my ifoedit/cce guide. as you can see in the guide there's a 2sec PGC as well, and the procedure is not different for a 0 sec PGC.

[Pauly]

Please note "Multi Angles" and "Seamless Branching" are not the same thing. So the re-authoring in Scenarist will be different to the guide. Unfortunately I don't know how you do this. But I am sure someone else will.

[Doom9]

Please note "Multi Angles" and "Seamless Branching" are not the same thing. I hope you're not suggesting that I don't know that or I'll have to take that as an insult. But you still have to operate on VOB ID level, the only difference there is to the seamless branching guide is that you encode the multiangle parts as described in the DVD Extras in CCE guide and then create multiangle tracks for the multiangle parts instead of regular tracks as in the seamless branching guide. But the main thing is that you have to operate on VOB ID level with all the complications that this involves, and that idea remains the same.

[hoops10]

@Doom9

Here is what I have done so far. I ripped the entire dvd and then used IFOEdit to remove the angles (keeping just angle 1). It rewrites the vobs, changes the VOB information and corrected VOBU pointers like it should. I now have a new set of vobs with only 1 angle.

Question 1: The total size (with video_ts.* and vts_01_0.*) is under 4.37 gbs. Can I just burn this and it will play in my stand alone? (I'm confident I can change the video_ts.ifo file to start the dvd with the main menu, which is what I want). Do I have to do any more processing to the vobs before they will work in a stand alone?

Question 2: Becuase I used IFOEdit to remove the other angles, am I right in saying that I now have a new vob set with the 3 pgcs still intact? In other words, does using IFOEdit to remove angles mess with the multiple pgcs at all?

You said to follow the seamless branching guide but how do I know this is a seamless braching movie?

[Doom9]

Removing an angle doesn't remove any PGCs so your 3 PGCs should still be there.
It seems as if you only care about the main movie.. there's actually a guide for that.. also perform the multiangle removal during the process and after a get vts sectors you are ready to burn.

if you want to transcode (to keep menus and extras) you can follow the normal ifoedit/cce guide now.

How do you know a movie is seamless branching? If it states (on the back of the disc, in the disc menu) that you have multiple versions of the movie on the disc. Multiangles are usually mentioned as well.. and if you have some graphical subtitles (as in images) that allow you to access different videos during movie playback that hints to multiangles. Credits in different languages are also done via multiangles. And then there's ifoedit.. the multiangle and seamless branching tools when pressing vob extras are only accessible if you have such a title.

[hoops10]

@Doom9

I don't have the original case so I can't read it to see if it is seamless branching. Although looking at the Seamless Braching guide by OxP, my screen looks nothing like the screen shot you have in DVD Decryptor. (It has mulitple pgcs but only one of the pgcs is long enough to be the movie and under pgc1 is 2 angles). So I don't think this movie is seamless branched. But in Smartripper and DVD Decryptor, it shows 2 angles in PGC 1, so I'm sure there are multiple angles.

I think I know what to do, but I just want to make sure. I now have a vob set with only 1 angle and 3 pgcs after ripping out the other angles using IFOEdit. I do want to keep the menus and 1 audio stream. So am I correct in saying that at this point, I would use the CCE/IFOEdit guide? And if so, the guide says to rip each pgc separately, so should I load the new video_ts folder (located on the hardrive) into Smartripper and "rip" each pgc to its own folder like the guide says?

I'm stumped on this though. At this point, what I want to keep is the menus, main movie and 1 audio stream (which is made up of the video_ts.* and vts_01_x.*) All of these equal less than 4.37 gbs. I don't think I have to use CCE/IFOEdit method becuase the size is already below 4.37 gbs. Am I missing something here? Thanks.


UPDATE

Well I think i got it. Here is what I did. I ripped all the vobs normally. Then I used IFOEdit to strip out all angles except angle 1. I kept the video_ts.* and vts_01_0.* files IFOEdit created. I moved the new vob set (vts_01_1.vob thru vts_01_4.vob), the new video_ts.* files and the new vts_01_0.* files into the folder with the rest of the ripped vobs from the original. I got rid of the orig main movie vobs (those that contained the 2 angles) and the original video_ts.* and vts_01_0.* files.

I ran GET VTS SECTORS on the new video_ts.ifo file and tested it in IFOEdit and powerdvdxp and it works great. I have all the menus, the main movie and 1 audio stream. What do you think? Will it work in a stand alone?