Cannot get subtitles to work...HELP!!!

[DJ Teknosys]

OK, I'm trying to convert the DVD of Das Boot. I want to have two audio tracks, German and English, along with selectable English subtitles. Since this is my first time doing this, I tested it by just encoding 1 chapter.

Nothing works. I get the 2 audio tracks, but no subs at all. I've tried all times, SVCD type, CDV type, and even permanent (I really wanted selectable, but I thought maybe it was my player that was the problem. I have an Apex 5131 3-disc).

Does anybody have any thoughts? I've included the log from my last attempt, I didn't keep the others. I really want selectable subs with this movie! HELP! Thanks....
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Key found: DE248F3863
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- 9/6/2002 12:57:27 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 9/6/2002 12:57:28 PM
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Français
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Español
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
1 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 9/6/2002 12:58:16 PM
- Free on drive G: 13468.77 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob

Ripping: E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 2375

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- 9/6/2002 12:58:52 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\VTS_01_1.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 9/6/2002 12:59:09 PM
- Free on drive G: 13473.25 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 15

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
Permanent subtitles.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 9/6/2002 12:59:14 PM
- Free on drive G: 13473.02 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -43 ms
Audio2 delay: -43 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 9/6/2002 12:59:23 PM
- Free on drive G: 13461.11 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -43 ) -2lame( -e -b 160 -m s )
Audio conversion of G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.


Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_2.ac3" -output "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Encoded_audio_2.mp2" -logfile "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Encoded_audio_2.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -43 ) -2lame( -e -b 160 -m s )
Audio conversion of G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_2.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 9/6/2002 1:00:38 PM
- Free on drive G: 13473.55 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\cover19.jpg
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 9/6/2002 1:00:46 PM
- Free on drive G: 13473.55 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 832542788
AudioSectors: 5554360
VideoPAPO: 12810492
ScanOffsetBytes: 2804
SeqAligningBytes: 178235
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 813996892.40
Seconds: 136.96
CalcMPEGStream: 813996892.40
Frames: 3116
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Too few frames to make a test. Continuing with a CQ value of 80
Using Quality Value: 80.00
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
AvisynthSubtitler("G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\Subs\","permsubs.txt")
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 9/6/2002 1:11:08 PM
- Free on drive G: 13466.45 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 9/6/2002 1:11:11 PM
- Free on drive G: 13466.45 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 9/6/2002 1:11:14 PM
- Free on drive G: 13466.44 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 9/6/2002 1:11:25 PM
- Free on drive G: 13441.46 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
130.008 seconds G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 9/6/2002 1:11:31 PM
- Free on drive G: 13441.46 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "G:\SVCD\dvd2svcd\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 9/6/2002 1:11:38 PM
- Free on drive G: 13460.25 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[UltimateDBZ]

Apparently you didn't read the rules, as you just broke them. Pray whichever mod reads this first is in a good more, or expect to be striked.

[DJ Teknosys]

I'm sorry, what did I do wrong?

[UltimateDBZ]

Caps and exclamation marks, my friend, two enemies of most visitors here. Fix them and people will pay attention to your topic. Just make sure it doesn't happen again, and you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

[chainsaw135]

@Ulitmate i could not of put it any better then you did, thanks again for the help around here;)

[hyperspaced]

I am experiencing the same problems over here. The only thing I can do is to use "Permanent subtitles", which I sometimes hate.

What burning mode do you use ? (Track At Once, Disk At Once, Disk At Once / 96 ). I am using DAO with Nero.

thanks
--hyperspaced

PS : And, yeah, pay attention to those CAPS and EXC!@M@T!0N marks... Who knows where they might send you :-)

[dvd2svcd]

1. Do you see any subtitles when you use the Preview function?
2. What is your subtitle Y-Position ?

[hyperspaced]

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I am seeing subtitles in the preview (both SVCD and permanent)

Always using the default Y positioning (-1). With the permanent subtitles never had a problem. With the SVCD subtitles, they don't even appear on my DVD player !!!

I really don't know if it is my DVD player or anything else....

Thanks

--hyperspaced

[dvd2svcd]

I bet you have one of those TV's that auto zooms. In the preview try setting the subtitles y-pos in a way so that the bottom of the subtitles matches the bottom of the picture:



|--------------------------------| <- Top
| Border |
|--------------------------------| <- Picture Start
| |
| |
| |
| |
| put subtitles here |
|--------------------------------| <- Picture end
| Border |
|--------------------------------| <- Bottom



BTW, are you 100% sure that your dvd player supports CVD or SVCD subtitles? If not check it on http://www.vcdhelp.com

And one last thing, I have striken you because you apparently don't understand the rules. First you make fun of the rules, and thereafter you break them. Not wise.

[Boulder]

I don't know if this is related to your problem, but at least my Director's Cut version of Das Boot was really tricky. The subtitles were the ones from director's commentary although the preview showed the correct ones. The solution was to select 'next' a couple of times in the phase where the subtitles are selected.

[hyperspaced]

thanks, I'll try putting the subtitles inside the visible frame.

My TV goes into auto zooming (letterbox) mode on selection. I also selected both 16:9 and 4:3 modes but in vein. It seems that simply the subtitles are lost! My DVD does support subtitles however (checked with authentic SVCDs).

I am confused...

thanks for your time

--hyperspaced

[dvd2svcd]

Have you tried CVD subtitles instead ?

[hyperspaced]

Nop, never ! I am not sure if the player supports them, but I'll give it a try. Thanks !

[dvd2svcd]

The majority supports CVD subs and not SVCD subs (actually only DVD players that are built on philips components supports SVCD subs afaik).

[Apaullo]

I'm having a much similar problem. But in recent testing (like, minutes ago) I switched from VCDXBuild to VCDImager and the subtitles *worked* on my Apex AD660. But I'd much rather use VCDXBuild....

... so I'll try using CVD subtitles. Thx for the idea.

[Apaullo]

Success... CVD Subtitles is the solution. Thanks again for pointing out the idea DVD2SVCD, here I was thinking "CVD" was an entirely different format.

BTW, thank you again for such an awesome program. Noob heaven. :)