Sound is 2sec too late. Can't find the problem..

[TKSoft2000]

Hello,
I try to rip Bad Karma. I'm doing the same as with all the other ripps but this time the sound is 2sec. too slow (I can see how somebody opens his mouth but the sound comes too late).

I reripped the DVD 4 times but can't find the problem *grr*.

I get tho problem with the created MPEG-files (played with WinDVD) on my harddisk and also latr in my DVD player.

Hope someone can help me...

Best regards
TKS

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My LOG:
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- 10.08.02 19:01:35
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 10.08.02 19:01:38
- Free on drive D: 43284.99 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_1.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_2.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_3.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_4.vob

Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_1.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_2.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_3.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_4.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 7422

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- 10.08.02 20:02:10
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 10.08.02 20:02:17
- Free on drive D: 39668.06 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: From the start
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- 10.08.02 20:02:18
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\DVD\BADKARMA\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\DVD\BADKARMA\VTS_08_1.vob,D:\DVD\BADKARMA\VTS_08_2.vob,D:\DVD\BADKARMA\VTS_08_3.vob,D:\DVD\BADKARMA\VTS_08_4.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 10.08.02 20:03:59
- Free on drive D: 39667.70 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio2 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 10.08.02 20:09:51
- Free on drive D: 39399.93 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.


Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_2.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_2.ac3" -output "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Encoded_audio_2.mp2" -logfile "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Encoded_audio_2.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\DVD\BADKARMA\Extracted_audio_2.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 10.08.02 20:45:03
- Free on drive D: 39246.90 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 10.08.02 20:45:09
- Free on drive D: 39246.11 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Frameserver.
Closing program

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1645563976
AudioSectors: 162810144
VideoPAPO: 22968648
ScanOffsetBytes: 150388
SeqAligningBytes: 9557967
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 1450076820.93
Seconds: 5019.92
CalcMPEGStream: 1450076820.93
Frames: 125323
CDSize: 790.00
Cut point 785.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 125323
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2400
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVD\BADKARMA\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,576)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.930
Video Encoding finished.

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- 11.08.02 04:51:19
- Free on drive D: 37873.95 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11.08.02 04:51:21
- Free on drive D: 37873.95 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 11.08.02 04:51:24
- Free on drive D: 37873.91 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 785 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2642 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2644
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 785 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 11.08.02 05:00:02
- Free on drive D: 36353.33 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2644.349 seconds D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2369.724 seconds D:\DVD\BADKARMA\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 11.08.02 05:00:52
- Free on drive D: 36353.33 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 8

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\DVD\BADKARMA\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\DVD\BADKARMA\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 11.08.02 05:02:31
- Free on drive D: 35557.70 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 9

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\apps\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\DVD\BADKARMA\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\DVD\BADKARMA\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "D:\DVD\BADKARMA\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 11.08.02 05:04:42
- Free on drive D: 34811.53 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[UltimateDBZ]

I assume you've tried setting the Movie Offset to 0? If you haven't, and that's the problem, then you easily could have found that out doing a search.

[TKSoft2000]

@UltimateDBZ
Thanks for you answer..

Sorry, but if you mean the movie offset under bbMPEG->Movie offset seconds I'm using the default value of 2.

Regards
TKS

[UltimateDBZ]

Yes, I see that you are using the value of 2 from your log. The question is if you've tried 0. That value of 2 cuts the first X seconds of audio off, it can solve sync problems on some players, but it might be a reason for your trouble, considering you say it is off by 2 seconds.

[TKSoft2000]

@UltimateDBZ

THX! Until now I had no problem with this 2 Seconds, but it seems to be the problem.

I'll try it this night...

THX
TKS

[Jason28]

Also you can try I dont know if you have tried to rip it with different rippers or not but sometimes that might work. Try it with vstrip and Smartripper and see if that works for you.

[TKSoft2000]

OK, changing the value from 2 to zero doesn't change anything (*grrr*).

I can't rerip the DVD, I have only the files on my harddisk.

Is there any Program avaible that can edit MP2 files? Searching anything like CoolEdit, so I can cut the audio track manual.

THX!
TKS

[ihgl]

To avoid problems like this and get better control I nowadays very often use VirtualDub to correct audio sync problems. First I save a project in DVD2AVI and get the audio -AC3 files. This one could then be converted to Mp3 (Acid/Lame). Then VFAPI gives you a pseudo AVI file that might be well handled in Nandub/VirtualDub. The sync problems might be cured in VirtualDub and the corrected pseudo-AVI file could then be transformed to a SVCD in DVD2SVCD from the pseudo-AVI and the VOB-files. Subtitles can also be better controled with this method.

[hawkie]

i've had that problem before. the problem for me was exactly the same i.e. the audio is o.k. on my computer but there was a delay on my dvd player. i got over this by now changing the sample rate of the audio. - it's a dvd player problem

what player are you using ?

[TKSoft2000]

@hawkie
Of course it is NOT a problem of my DVD-Player, because the player, WinDVD, players of my freinds pley back the Movie incorrect.

ALL other rips I have done with DVD2SVCD are more than perfect!

So it has anything to do with this stupid DVD...

Regards
TKS

[smiller667]

Consider using the method described by doom9 in his "how to fix audio async VCDs"-guide ... he uses "mp3 direct cut" which will cut mp2 audio without reencoding.

[hoozdapimp]

is the audio off from the beginning by 2 seconds or does it get progressively worse?
if its off and the delay stays constant, then cool edit is by far the best choice
if not, use vdub and use the method described above to try and fix it

[TKSoft2000]

I can't find the Doom9 guide, but I found "mp3 direct cut".
This Program is much too unexact to cut two sound streams (english & german).

So I converted the MP2 back to WAV :-) cuted the 2 sec. away, and multiplexed again.

The result:
Now the sound is two seconds toofast *GrRrRrRrR!*

From the beginning to the end, always the two second problem...

So I set the Movie Offset to 10 (!) remuixed it, doesn't change ANYTHING! (Function disabled??)

OK,
The original was 2 sec to slow, the cutted 2sec too fast OK...
I'l now convert to WAV, encode bac to MP2 -> Then it must be correct!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

<never had such problems with movies...>

Regards
TKS

[hoozdapimp]

did you check the cut file to make sure it was in fact only 2 seconds shorter than the original file? maybe you cut too much on accident, or maybe you cut 2 seconds *twice* on accident ;)

[TKSoft2000]

@hoozdapimp
The divverence between uncutted and cutted Video was the same. So I have nor reencoded with TMPG without cutting, sound was too late again.

Will now cut 1 sec off the Stream..

(needs always so much time to encode the audio *grr* 20min each file)

Stupid movie *grrr*

Regards
TKS

[Labersack]

You don't have to cut your audio with external tools. Do a CrashRecovery and set DVD2SVCD to advanced mode in the misc tab and after this go to bbMPEG tab. There you can enter the advanced bbMPEG settings and you can set an audio or video offset (Don't go below 180ms because this can cause problems, instead of decreasing audio you can increase video). So you can continue with muxing and will get another audio offset. If the Audio has the correct length you can repair your SVCD with this method.

[TKSoft2000]

@Labersack

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

Works really fine with advanced mode :-)

THX
TKS