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crgnjul
4th September 2002, 21:13
I have been using DVD2SVCD for a while now and just LOVE it. I am thinking about getting a DVD burner (probably a 2nd generation DVD+RW) in the next day or so.
My question is this: Can I use DVD2SCVD (or something similar) to backup DVD movies to DVDR? I know I can follow the guides on this and several other sites to rip, then mess with the IFO files and all that stuff. What I'm wondering is if there is a way to automate it like DVD2SVCD does for SVCDs.

Also am I correct in that I could use NERO to do a DVD to DVD copy of a DVD-5 disk and I would only need to worry about DVD-9 discs? Yes I know DVD-9 is the new standard, but was just wondering.

Thanks for any responces
crgnjul

marcovan
23rd September 2002, 20:16
Here it is. Tried it and it worked great

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/114252.php

Thanks to FLETCH for the original and mij for separating it.

lastquark
26th September 2002, 20:57
Yes, you can use DVD2SVCD to create DVD to DVDR. This had been discussed in this link:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28017&highlight=dvdr

Until now, I don't understand why most people would like to use complicated steps to create DVDR movies. DVD2SVCD is the answer.

On your other question, you are right on Nero. But don't use Nero for your DVD+R projects. It will work great on +RW but not +R even on the latest version. Go with RecordMax instead.

Snowface
29th September 2002, 10:49
Finally, I seem to be able to watch my svcd movies with my dvd-player. These other tricks (burning it like a vcd, or making a 'fake' xvcd or something) have never worked. My LG simply just won't play them. But now they do. BUT..... the problem with burning your svcd mpeg files on a dvd-r is that it needs to be re-authored. Your video doesn't need to be re-encoded but your audio does. Most of the times the svcd has 44.1 khz audio and dvd won't accept that. And the way it's explained on these sites, gives you horrible audio.

You'll get the best results with converting your audio to 48 khz PCM/wave files first with... say...FX Audio Editor. Then re-encode these files to mp2 with TMPGEnc. If you do it directly with TMPGEnc, you'll get some kind of computer-voice-like resampling which just sounds awfull.

And with these steps, lastquark, making a dvd-r is absolutely NOT more difficult that making a svcd. For mosst people, the problem seems to be re-encoding the dvd so it'll fit on a dvd-r. There are several programs to do this, but this is the wrong forum for that. But in the end, dvd2dvd-r, is less work, goes much faster, gives you better quality audio and video, just less playing time.

hoozdapimp
29th September 2002, 11:23
i don't understand...dvd's come in 48khz audio...if you want to put them on dvdr why would you convert from 48 to 44.1 back to 48? why don't you just uncheck the downsample button so the audio stays at 48khz?

UltimateDBZ
29th September 2002, 18:23
Why would you reconvert at all?

Just use IFOEdit to cut out what you don't want from your ripped files, and then burn them. There's no reason to do a conversion when you're just copying a DVD to a DVD.

dvd2svcd
29th September 2002, 19:05
Well you have to sometimes if the total bytes used is > than 4.7 GB.

UltimateDBZ
29th September 2002, 19:46
Originally posted by dvd2svcd
Well you have to sometimes if the total bytes used is > than 4.7 GB. Yeh, but is this a common occurence? From what I've read of others' experiences, most movies you can get down below that point just by removing subs, audio, and extras. I'd imagine that only lengthy movies that are on 1 disc would fit this bill...

Also, I'm curious. Just what % of the DVDs on the market now (both new and old) would you guess are DVD-9?

ux-3
29th September 2002, 19:58
Oh yes, great picture quality... the lack of sound is a bit anoying though.... :D

dvd2svcd
29th September 2002, 21:04
@UDBZ: I don't have any figures on how many %, but is common afaik.

@UX-3: What do you mean, I can't see the connection.

jledhead
30th September 2002, 03:25
so far I have been able to use ifoedit to cut the dvds down below the 4.2G mark without any reencoding. I really don't want to do a 4 pass on something with 8500 bitrate. it would take forever.


my most recent backup had no menu on the original, so the full movie with all the additional audios and subtitles all fit on 1 dvd, without any reencoding.

ux-3
30th September 2002, 08:30
@DVD2SVCD: I was refering to this statement, and of course, I wasn't all that serious... couldn't resist...
Originally posted by UltimateDBZ
From what I've read of others' experiences, most movies you can get down below that point just by removing subs, audio, and extras.

dvd2svcd
30th September 2002, 08:40
Originally posted by jledhead
so far I have been able to use ifoedit to cut the dvds down below the 4.2G mark without any reencoding. I really don't want to do a 4 pass on something with 8500 bitrate. it would take forever.


my most recent backup had no menu on the original, so the full movie with all the additional audios and subtitles all fit on 1 dvd, without any reencoding.

To be sure you should never do any re-encoding if you by removing streams can get the total size < 4.2 GB. But sometimes that is impossible, try doing magnolia or Terminator II without re encoding.

UltimateDBZ
30th September 2002, 22:59
Originally posted by ux-3
@DVD2SVCD: I was refering to this statement, and of course, I wasn't all that serious... couldn't resist...I didn't mean the main audio track, obviously :p I meant stuff like director's comments, and other addons like that. Removing the main track would be, well, rather stupid :D

Matthew
1st October 2002, 03:08
With the DVDs I've been ripping the video stream alone is greater than the size of a DVD-R...and it's not like they are that long a films...

Anyway I've written a macro (machine specific) that means I just have to spend a few mins setting up the rip (getting chapters, filling out a couple of text files, etc) then I execute ripping, then the macro immediately afterwards. Uses keystrokes though (for DVD2AVI and CCE execution and adding chapter points). So can't use the computer for first 20 mins or whatever.

Then I import into maestro and author ;)

lastquark
8th October 2002, 20:54
I'm encoding a 16:9 film for DVDr.
My Aspect Ratio is set-up to 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)
My Resize is set-up to DVD(720 x 480/576)

How come the output I'm getting still have borders at the top and bottom of the screen?

I have no problems when encoding SVCDs.

[edit]

I'll answer my own question after reading the FAQ. To change from widescreen to 4:3, add CROP command in Avisynth as follows:

CROP(90,60,540,360)

The above still shows elongated faces. To fix, crop more as follows:

CROP(90,70,540,340)

This will improve it but you will lose some film area. Well, there is always a tradeoff.