Ogm > 2GB problem

[Demone]

I encoded Lotr and it finished to be 2.8 GB
I did it at full bitrate cause its a film I like very much, and I want to put it on one DVD.
I got the old avi-splitter problem with files larger than 2GB so I make the whole muxed avi (3.3 GB with AC3) OGM (with graphedit), but then again, there r problems...if I watch the movie without seek its fine, but the first time I seek, media player locks and must be forced to close.
Now before trying to find marvellous solutions, is there anyone experiencing the same problem ? Any solution ?

[Koepi]

Maybe it's a problem of WMP, or of the dshwo framework, or..., or....


try media player classic please to make sure it isn't the dshow framwork causing this.

[Demone]

I'm using wmp 6.4.09
If I use powerdivx I cant even open the file
BsPlayer do the same as wmp

Koepy...probably its the ac3 ?

[Koepi]

ac3 in ogg isn't directly muxable, you have to mux it as avi first and feed that into oggmux.

It's a known issue.

[Demone]

I did it this way infact
The problem relies in the vb implementation of dshow
Infact using my vb player and powerdivx(vb too) the movie cant be opened...
My Delphi version works (still cant move around)
wmp and bsplayer r I think in c++ so no problem

but the fact that I cant seek remains

ahh, just one thing to note is that my vb and delphi players both use automatic graph generation, so itsnt a bad graph configuration

[Cantide]

I have got the same problem with seeking. But my movie is only 700 MB so size can't be the issue.
I think the length of the movie is the reason, because the total time is not displayed correctly (just some weird ASCII signs in BSPlayer/a very long number divided by ":" in WMP 6.4)
I encoded The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (~160 min / 23.976fps)in Xvid with one vorbis audio stream, chapters, no subs to 700 MB => same problem. (But the quality is strangely enough watchable)

[Demone]

U'r MAD :D
I tried to do the bad the good and the ugly on three cds and it lacks
bitrate, so I cant understand how you did it in 700mb :confused:
but probably your right cause its strange enought to say that...
I'm going to try to put it on one CD and let you know...

[Cantide]

I know, I just did it because I wanted to know if it is possible to do so.
(a bit of filtering (convolution3d), low resolution (480x208)) and from a distance its ok (average quant 4,5)
But you are right, I already put it on two CD's and at times it wasn't what you call DVD Quality. But still I was surprised by the "quality" of the 1 CD result.

I used OggMux 0.9.2 and split the file every 100 MB all went well until I got to the beginning of part 5, when OggMux (I guess rather OggDS) crashes.

Have to go now, I'll try to get closer to the crashing point with smaller split parts later.

[Cantide]

After a little testing I found out, that the movie length is not the problem. But the length of the string for Movie title in OggMux is (at least for me). When I give the movie the title "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly" the before mentioned problems arise, but when I just call it "Good Bad Ugly" or "" everything is fine.

Sorry to bring you on the wrong track with the movie length.

[Koepi]

Thanks for letting me know, I'll look into that.

This is very weird for sure, and I don't know if it derives from the filters or from oggmux itself.

Thanks!

Regards,
Koepi

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by Koepi
Thanks for letting me know, I'll look into that.

[..] and I don't know if it derives from the filters or from oggmux itself.

Thanks!

Regards,
Koepi

I'm quite sure it is a filter problem because the same thing happens if you use graphedit instead - a too long name for the file_writer/ target will cause graphedit to give strange results... I always name my file to out.ogm and rename it afterwards.

regards Sill

[Koepi]

hmmmm :)

That's rather good news as it safes me the time to look into that! :)

Thanks,
Koepi

[Cantide]

I think we are not talking about the same thing here. By movie title I don't mean the filename but the movie title in the upper right corner of OggMux.

[Koepi]

cantide:

just try as suggested - use filenames which are short, and shorten the title as well. e.g. give a title "Cantides Encode" and try if it works then.

[Cantide]

@Koepi
I never had problems with the lenght of the filename, but shortening the title of the movie in OggMux solves the problems of not being able to seek in the file and the display of a corrupted total time (somehow). So I think that if the string gets over a specific length it messes up the OGM file?! Sounds strange but it is reproduceable.
Otherwise your prog works great.
Thanks for the good work Koepi

[unplugged]

With Ogg Title caption I have used strings like "Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition", this produced full working files.

So the problem mentioned is a bit strange.

[Cantide]

I tried a few more titles, here is what happened:
"Good Bad Ugly" WORKS
"The Good The Bad The Ugly" BROKEN
"Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition" WORKS!
(all had the same filename test.ogm so no influence there)
so it is not the length :confused:
could someone please verify this

Cheers
Cantide

[Demone]

For what I can see its not an OggMux problem, cause I make ogm files from graphedit, but probably its that I'm past the 2gb. I'm going to make one that is 1990 mb to see if it works

[jurij]

Demone: i think thew solution is this:
Over the bench the goat sings, under the bench the goat dies!!!
think about it, and you will solve all your problems (included the big arm)

[Hiro2k]

I have something to add. When I mux in the video with OggMux and set the split values at 700Mb,it creates 4 700Mb files and the each one plays fine. If I let OggMux create a file over 2Gb then it will crash in whatever program i use.

I aslo tried to mux with OggMuxer that doesn't rely on DS, but that has a problem accepting AVI files over 2GB. So for now it seems that you have to stick with cutting your movies over 2GB with OggMux.

[Hiro2k]

When I mux in the video with OggMux and set the split values at 700Mb,it creates 4 700Mb files and the each one plays fine. If I let OggMux create a file over 2Gb then it will crash in whatever application I use.

I aslo tried to mux with OggMuxer which doesn't rely on DS Filters, but that has a problem accepting AVI files over 2GB. So for now it seems that you have to stick with cutting your movies lager movies with OggMux, or just Use Plain old AVI. Unless someone has an updated DS Filter :D