How to keep original menu+extra's

[darkass]

Hi I'm new here and need some help ^___^ be kind and share the knowlegde

OK this is what i did...

1. smartripped the main movie into m2v and ac3 files.

2. ReMpeg the main movies down using a Bitrate calculator to make it fit into a dvd+r disc. also leaving room for original menus and extras.

3. Use SpruceUp to create Ifo and VOBs.
- only thing about this is I didn't add any chapters because i wanted to use the original chapters on the dvd.

(3b. I also tried having the original movie ifo and vob files and remux the m2v.)<---ignore this in this procedure list. extra info.

4. After I have the ifo/vobs created by spruce up i ripped the entire dvd disc onto my hdd.

5. Renamed the vobs created by spruce up to the original movie vob names (Didn't use the ifo created by spruceUp). Copy them over to where i ripped the entire movie.

6. open the Ripped Movie ifo with IFOedit and correct the VTS sector.

7. Use nero to burn the VIDEO_TS folder (where i ripped my movie)

OK... Here's my problem I was able to fit everything into my DVD+rw disc, but the chapters are messed up. It doesn't match up to the scenes. Everything worked except my chapters <--(scene selections menu) ... arrghhh Please help :) soooo closeeeeee......

Thanks in Advance,
DA

[dvdRENEGADE]

You must insert chapter points within your authoring program (SpruceUp) or you will not have chapter points within your dvd. You can use ChapterXtractor on your original .ifo file to get the chapter points that you will need to set. Good luck, dvdRENEGADE

[darkass]

You must insert chapter points within your authoring program (SpruceUp) or you will not have chapter points within your dvd. You can use ChapterXtractor on your original .ifo file to get the chapter points that you will need to set. Good luck, dvdRENEGADE


hmmmm... thats what i was afraid of... Damn spruce up is a pain to insert chapter points. can't get it to the right point using there left and right slider. Tried entering it in manually but didn't work.. well i'll try it again. oh the agony! hehehe not really :)

i'll keep you guys updated..

DA

[hoops10]

@darkass

May I suggest a different process that will yeild better results.

"1. smartripped the main movie into m2v and ac3 files."

This step is fine, I do the same thing.


"2. ReMpeg the main movies down using a Bitrate calculator to make it fit into a dvd+r disc. also leaving room for original menus and extras."

Have you ever tried CCE? It blows the doors off of ReMpeg as far as quality goes. I would suggest the Robshot method (2-pass method).


"3. Use SpruceUp to create Ifo and VOBs.
- only thing about this is I didn't add any chapters because i wanted to use the original chapters on the dvd."

As far as authoring goes, I like to use 2 different programs. I like Maestro for single PGC movies and Scenarist for multiple PGC movies (that is just my personal preference though).


As far as the rest of the steps you listed, try following the CCE/IFOedit guide on Doom9's site.

If you need any help, drop me a msg or a post.

[darkass]

TO: hoops10

Yea i was planning on trying out CCE. Ok i got a complete copy of my dvd... menus/extras and all. I used the same method above, but slightly modified.

1. Instead of using SpruceUp I used DVD Meastro.
2. I also used chapter Xtrator to extract the original chapters out of the movie and imported it in.
3. I used subrip to get the subtitles and imported them in as well. 4. After this i copied my authored VOBS and copied them over to where i ripped my menus and extras. Used IFOUpdate and corrected everything.
5. Used WinDVD to watch the movies and test out the menu/chapter selection.
6. BURN with Nero (not the DVD-vid, but UDF/iso).


I noticed that with ReMpeg i was getting alittle digitaliztion/pixelation on certain scenes. Its not really that bad, but i noticed it so... :) TIME TO START OVER. As far as picture quality its almost the same as the original dvd only certain scenes i had problems with as stated earlier. Off to the CCE method now. Thanks for the help guys... really appreciate it ^__^ Oh I feel so loved...lol

DA

[pale]

I would seriously consider using something else than Nero for burning. For example IfoEdit/ImageBuilder to create ISO image, then DVDDecrypter for burning the image.

[hoops10]

@pale

I've used Nero 5.5.8.0 and it works great. I do know that newer vers of Nero don't work very well, but my experience, as well as many others on here, has been very good with ver 5.5.8.0.

[Xesdeeni]

I'm going to try some of this over the next few days, but I'm adding a kink to the whole thing: my source DVD is PAL (DVD9), but my destination DVD*R is NTSC.

This is a VIDEO DVD (not film), so I only have to convert the video, but I've already done that part (different subject for a different forum), including reducing the bitrate to fit on a single layer DVD*R.

Since I don't have DVD Maestro, only SpruceUp, what extra problems will the fact that I have a totally different number of frames for the video cause? And how the heck do I handle converting the menus and buttons?

Xesdeeni

[oddyseus]

Spruce Up can not handle moving menus by default and PAL is 720x576 whereas NTSC is 720x480.

Apart from this I dont think u ll face much more problems.

I am afraid one thing though. The syncying of Audio Video after the transformation of PAL 2 NTSC. The original ac3 should not be in sync. This is due to insertion of the extra 6 frames per sec.

[Xesdeeni]

Spruce Up can not handle moving menus by default and PAL is 720x576 whereas NTSC is 720x480.On this title, there are no moving menus, although they do have sound (which SpruceUp also can't handle). The question is how do I re-encode the menus into a VOB that looks the same as the original, but with the new size, so I can use the original IFOs (with appropriate modifications)? The menu VOB doesn't quite work the same way as video VOBs, so I can't seem to just create a new m2v and ac3 file and have SpruceUp multiplex them back into a VOB for me (probably using a totally separate project just for this purpose). In fact I don't even get all the menus when I use DVD2AVI to extract the frames.
I am afraid one thing though. The syncying of Audio Video after the transformation of PAL 2 NTSC. The original ac3 should not be in sync. This is due to insertion of the extra 6 frames per sec.No, it works fine. The frame rate is increased along with the extra frames, so the running time, and therefore audio synchronization, will be the same (plus or minus a fraction of a frame).

Keep in mind I've already authored a DVD with this content, and I even spent (wasted?) the time to get close to the original content (it was a very simple menu configuration, although there were a total of 25 menus with an average of 5 buttons each). But I want to actually duplicate the original exactly, including the audio with the menus, and the different playing order depending on which menu button is pressed (play all, vs. play a single episode), which SpruceUp can't do. Also, the next PAL DVD I'm going to convert has a much more complex menu system, complete with motion menus, so I was hoping to find a method of duplicating it as well.

The other question unanswered is how to convert the buttons. I believe they are in the IFO files, right? Or are they in the menu VOB as a different stream?

Xesdeeni