MPG2 to DVD-R?

[bam099]

does anyone have any tutorials that explain how to burn a mpg2 or other video files to a dvd-r so I am able to watch it much like a VCD, just except as a DVD? Thanks


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[Fox Mulder]

http://doom9.org/mpg/svcd2dvdr.htm

[Semmemon]

MPEG's burned on DVD-R or RW's won't run on most standalone DVD players.

I'm pretty sure you have to use DVD+R or +RW's. I have yet to test this but I believe it may work...but I know for certain I can't play MPEG's on my dvd player.

Remember the PLUS means better. + and - , there are big differences.

[jdobbs]

??????? You can't burn MPEG2 to a DVD-R??? Maybe I'm missing something here, but -- Pretty much all DVDs are MPEG2. It definitely has absolutely nothing to do with plus or minus... I'm not sure where that came from...

[auenf]

you can take Mpg2 (elementary streams mostly) to any dvdauthoring program to make a playable disc on standalones.

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[p3distxii]

Originally posted by Semmemon
MPEG's burned on DVD-R or RW's won't run on most standalone DVD players.

I'm pretty sure you have to use DVD+R or +RW's. I have yet to test this but I believe it may work...but I know for certain I can't play MPEG's on my dvd player.



ok,

If you're just dragging your mpeg file onto the disc, burning it, then expecting it to play on your standalone, most likely it won't play--unless you have an APEX (Those fuckers play everything you throw at it!).

You need to use an authoring program in order to play it on most players. Use the svcd->dvd guide.

BTW,
Originally posted by Semmemon
Remember the PLUS means better. + and - , there are big differences.

This is merely a matter of opinion.

[h00z]

I have a Pioneer A04 DVD-R(W) myself. My disks play fine on my Apex set-top as well as my (notoriously picky) Sony set-top. Whoever told you that the + was better was full of crap. If you read any comparisons of the two, the -R is, if anything, more compatible with set-top players than the +RW.

But yes... You will have to actually author the DVD before you can play it in a set-top player.

[Semmemon]

My APEX doesn't play mpeg's that have been dragged on and burned. But maybe I was missing a step like an authoring program.

[FWMan]

Originally posted by Semmemon
Remember the PLUS means better. + and - , there are big differences.

Do you know what is the diffrerent between +R and -R? If you don't then don't comment like that...

+R only better than -R, is when to back-up your computer dada. You can back up at any size file at 2.4x.

Where -R the first session is must be bigger than 350MB (this is base on my memory, it can be big as 500MB), otherwise it take forever to finish.

Cuz I was there at Pioneer Lab (LongBeach, CA.), when we ran the test.

Only pp did not do their home work, would buy +R drive. Let face it most of us back DVD with close to 4.7GB of data anyway, so who cares the problem of small file :-)
I really feel sorry for PP who buy +R and +RW, because they have to pay up to the nose for +R and +RW media.

Where i can get less $1.00 on 1x media and $1.50 for 2x media.
www.caloptic.com

[auenf]

down here, +R(W) is much cheaper than -R(W)

and btw, +R has comparable features to -R(Authoring), whereas -R(General) has missing features.

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[FWMan]

Please enlighten me about authoring, what is the different? Remember i have talk to Pioneer about this matter ;)
Remember yrs ago audio CD, CD manufacture did the same, they said they can not replicate your home studio CD, but now every replication house more than happy to take your CD as a master (of course have to be good copy).

I did a DVD-R master with DVR-103 for my client and a local replication make a 1000 copy for him, no problem. So there is no different between DVD authoring and general

Are you in Australia?
FWMan

[auenf]

Originally posted by FWMan
Please enlighten me about authoring, what is the different? Remember i have talk to Pioneer about this matter ;)
Remember yrs ago audio CD, CD manufacture did the same, they said they can not replicate your home studio CD, but now every replication house more than happy to take your CD as a master (of course have to be good copy).

I did a DVD-R master with DVR-103 for my client and a local replication make a 1000 copy for him, no problem. So there is no different between DVD authoring and general

Are you in Australia?
FWMan

the main difference between -R(A) and -R(G) is extra duplication info, mainly for creating copy protected discs, +R supports all the features that -R(A) supports.

lots of replicators accept -R(G) (among others) for replication, but not for copy protected titles, which you require a DLT or -R(A) for (or +R for that matter).

yes im in australia, heres some example prices for you (in AU$ from www.secret.com.au)

Ricoh MP5125A : $707 (with neoDVD)
Pioneer DVR-A04 : $769 (or $1538 for Sonic ReelDVD instead of MyDVD)

media:
Ricoh 2.4x 4.7Gb DVD+R Media $12.50
Ricoh 2.4x 4.7Gb DVD+RW Media $14.00
Pioneer DVD-RW 4.7Gb (General Purpose) $19.50
(the DVD-R(G) media listed was in a 5 pack only for $50)

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[m3taPT]

dvd-r's are $3 here and dvd-rw's are $8.

Enf, ure being robbed :)

[FWMan]

m3taPT.
Well i get $1.50/ea for 2x Princo DVD-R media at www.caloptic.com
Oppss forgot ... DVD-RW is $1.45

[m3taPT]

Good prices... *checking shipping costs*

thx for the heads up.

[auenf]

Originally posted by m3taPT
dvd-r's are $3 here and dvd-rw's are $8.

Enf, ure being robbed :)

well, no, im not being robbed (/me checks front door locks), i dont have a dvd burner yet ;)

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[FWMan]

Originally posted by auenf


the main difference between -R(A) and -R(G) is extra duplication info, mainly for creating copy protected discs, +R supports all the features that -R(A) supports.

lots of replicators accept -R(G) (among others) for replication, but not for copy protected titles, which you require a DLT or -R(A) for (or +R for that matter).

You are full of it... You are so ignorant that scare me of thinking pp like you spread the word of senseless about DVDR technology, which you have no idea... I'll have a Pionneer Engineer respond to your clueless, non-sense comment soon.

FWMan

[auenf]

Originally posted by FWMan


You are full of it... You are so ignorant that scare me of thinking pp like you spread the word of senseless about DVDR technology, which you have no idea... I'll have a Pionneer Engineer respond to your clueless, non-sense comment soon.

FWMan

may i ask what exactly i am clueless about?

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[p3distxii]

Originally posted by FWMan


...You are so ignorant that scare me of thinking pp like you spread the word of senseless about DVDR technology, which you have no idea...
FWMan

In the future, if you're going to call someone ignorant you should try your best to not make yourself look ignorant. Funny how some people get so bent about that kind of stuff.

[auenf]

im guessing he's bordering on rule #4:


4) Be nice to each other and respect the moderator. Profanity and insults will not be tolerated. If you have a problem with another member turn to the respective moderator and if the moderator can't help you send a private message to Doom9.


but ill wait to see what exactly he's refering to (im betting on a misunderstanding of some sort, or a typo) before i take it further.

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[ErMaC]

From what I know the only difference between -R(a) and -R(g) is that the Authoring version allows the burning of the CCS encryption keys and General doesn't.

Why the heck would I want to bother paying money to get a CCS key when obviously anyone who wants to can bypass it? Same deal with Macrovision.

From compatability comparisons I've seen DVD-R does just fine. The media's cheaper in the US, and the drives work fine. Sadly I will wait until Pioneer's next generation of burners because I don't want to be stuck burning at 8X CD speeds and for my next computer I'm planning on going small and efficient instead of huge and bulky like my current home machine.

[rinkel]

ok, i would like to comment as well.

I've been burning dvd-r's now for a while and all my discs work on every player i tried them on. (burned about 100 discs)
The reason for me to choose the -r standard was the price of the media and +r media did not exist at that time (only +rw).
I really don't care which will be the standard, i'll just buy a new burner, as the price of these things are dropping rapidly.
Most of the people i know have a pioneer burner, i went along with their choice and i never felt sorry for that choice.
I also have a set-top dvd-recorder which does dvd-r, so i only have to buy one type of media.
I never used all the other features of (A) media, and i'm not planning on using them.
SO...
It really doesn't matter what type of burner you buy at this time.
Only the price of media can be a choice.

[FWMan]

auenf, p3distxii.

As promise, Here is the Pioneer's engineer comment about +R -R(A) and -R(g).

DVD-R(A): At the time of the Pioneer DVR-S201 drive, there was only one type of DVD-R media. The drive used a 635nm laser to record to this media.

When the DVD-Forum approved the DVD-R specifications for "consumer" drives (DVR-A03 and DVR-A04 for example). A change was made to accommodate the cheaper and more abundant 650nm recording lasers. In order to justify the older technology, the DVD-Forum also changed the spec. of the original DVD-R media to DVD-R(A). This media would allow a user to write the correct lead headers to a DVD-R(A) media, that, at that time, was only found in DLT tapes. This would allow clients to ship DVD-R(A) recorded discs to replication facilities for mass production.

The replicators would need to also have a DVR-S201 in their facility to read the appropriate header info and send it to their replication machines. The header information allows duplication machines to best keep data integrity through the whole read process of the disc.

Cost of technology for creating DVD-Video discs:

DLTS: about $17K (1996-1999)
DVR-S201 about $5K (1999-2001)
DVR-A03 about $1K (2001-present)
DVR-A04 about $500 (2002-present)

DVD-R(G): Requests from Hollywood studios also prompted the DVD-Forum to add more capabilities to DVD-R discs that would not allow users to dupe copy-protected material. A stronger scheme was placed in the DVD-R media that would make it even tougher for people to copy Hollywood movies.

These technologies do not affect the customer or impede them from creating standard DVD-R home videos.

"not for copy protected titles, which you require a DLT or -R(A) for (or +R for that matter")

This is incorrect.

You can request a replicator to make your discs copy protected. If the replicator does not support this option, you need to find one that does. The DVD+R technology is similar to DVD-R(G), directed for consumer used, but not as compatible.

Hope this clears up any misinformation you had received in the past.


Above comment proves that you have no clue what you are talking about. Please do not make-up stuff as you go.
Because this site is the BEST site for pp to get the info about DVD technology. I hate the to see pp give out the wrong info and make this site tained.

If i ever offend you, it's just out of frustration, but don't take it in a wrong way... look at it positive way.

As for p3distxii...

I do know what I'm ignorant about, that's y i HAVE to wait to get my fact straight.

[auenf]

1 thing im going to nit pick about, and yes pioneer would probably give you mis information about it, is that DVD+R does include the basically all the extra stuff that DVD-R(A) contains for duplication/replication, cant remember where that info was tho.

the replicator we deal with at work only accepts DLT's anyway, and from my talking with them, they will do copy protected discs (they get some from WAMO actually) but it depends on whether the tape was written in CMF or DDP 2.0 (might have got the letters wrong there), but i cant remember which is which, altho he did mention that CMF is usually from lowerend software, DDP 2.0 from higher end software. and those formats on the DVD-R discs depends the same on whether copy protection can be made.

btw, for next time, a good idea would be to grab the pioneer reply before telling me that im ignorant/clueless ;)

altho this is probably a good example of why there is soo much confusion over the so many DVD recording formats ;)

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[auenf]

just saw this: http://www.dvdmadeeasy.com/subscriber/articles/02062001-2/page_3.html in another thread, and thought you might want to ask your pioneer engineer about:


"It's a clients prerogative to use DVD-R, and their responsibility to ensure that the program material or title is correctly applied to the DVD-R. But CSS is best handled with a DLT that has DDP [Disc Description Protocol] and an image file. If a CSS-encrypted DVD-Video is supplied on DVD-R, the plant would need a player capable of accessing the keys off the disc and re-applying the keys during the glass master recording process. A DVD drive to enable this is not available, so a realistic solution for supplying CSS on DVD-R has not been implemented."


but not specifically that, as its basically answered in the next couple of paragraphs ;)

interesting reading anyway.

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