Can some dvd's just not be done

[Bodman]

I have a DVD which is 7.39 Gig ish in size. It has 6 title sets 1 which is 2.5 gig and another which is 3.2 gig. Extras 1.53 gig If I encode these (ROBSHOT) at a bitrate which will result in less than 4.37 gig the quality is dreadful. (Encoding everything inc extras)

If I run CCE single VBR pass over the 3 gig (Min 0,Max 9000)

The file gets bigger to 3.5 gig :(

Is this simply one of those disks that cannot be done and must be split across 2 disks.....or am I missing something


Hope someone can help

//Bodman

[dvd_master]

While I'm not saying it CAN'T be done, it would be better to split it. Higher quality is preffered.

[colebert]

what might the name of this misfit dvd be?

[Bodman]

Its the TT2002 (motorbike racing from the Isle of Man) Duke Video


http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1625.htm



//Bodman

[mikeathome]

Originally posted by Bodman
Its the TT2002 (motorbike racing from the Isle of Man) Duke Video


http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1625.htm



//Bodman

Hi,

looks liek an interlaced title. Interlaced material needs different handling.
1) more bitrate in general
2) an optimized quantization matrix (like 'DV mb1 interlaced') + the appropriate scan order 'Alternate'

I would calculate the max. avg. allowed:
BR = (size DVD - Audio - Authoring) x 8 [kbits/kByte] / fl [secs]

Example: 02:45:20 = 9,920 secs
DVD: 4.375 GByte = 4,480 MByte = 4,587,520 kByte
Audio: 448 kbit/s => 448/8 x 9,920 = 555,520 kByte
====================================================
SubTotal: 4,032,000 kByte = 3,937 MByte = 3.84 GByte
====================================================
Authoring min. 50 MByte => 51,200 kByte
====================================================
Total: 3,980,000 kByte = 3,887 MByte = 3.79 GByte

BR = 3,980,000 [kByte] x 8 [kbits/kByte] / 9,920 secs = 3,210 kbits/sec

Bitrate for Full D1 Interlaced should be ~4.500kbps. If it is lower consider resizing to 352x576/480 Half D1, preferable with FitCD.

Best solution to retain quality, split to two DVD-Rs, or do DivX5.02 on 2-3 CD-R with GordianKnot ;-).

mike

[p3distxii]

Originally posted by mikeathome


Hi,

looks liek an interlaced title. Interlaced material needs different handling.
1) more bitrate in general
2) an optimized quantization matrix (like 'DV mb1 interlaced') + the appropriate scan order 'Alternate'

I would calculate the max. avg. allowed:
BR = (size DVD - Audio - Authoring) x 8 [kbits/kByte] / fl [secs]

Example: 02:45:20 = 9,920 secs
DVD: 4.375 GByte = 4,480 MByte = 4,587,520 kByte
Audio: 448 kbit/s => 448/8 x 9,920 = 555,520 kByte
====================================================
SubTotal: 4,032,000 kByte = 3,937 MByte = 3.84 GByte
====================================================
Authoring min. 50 MByte => 51,200 kByte
====================================================
Total: 3,980,000 kByte = 3,887 MByte = 3.79 GByte

BR = 3,980,000 [kByte] x 8 [kbits/kByte] / 9,920 secs = 3,210 kbits/sec

Bitrate for Full D1 Interlaced should be ~4.500kbps. If it is lower consider resizing to 352x576/480 Half D1, preferable with FitCD.

Best solution to retain quality, split to two DVD-Rs, or do DivX5.02 on 2-3 CD-R with GordianKnot ;-).

mike

:confused: Full D1?!?!
I consider myself pretty experienced when it comes to DVD authoring. But that entire post has me scratching my head. :D

[rect]

full D1 is just full dvd resolution, 720x480 for ntsc, 720x576 for pal.