How to compress Southpark episodes?

[Razorblade2000]

It was a lil bit difficult to place this therad as it has avisynth, general VCD and tmpgenc parts. But now the thread:

Isn't there a special template for anime/cartoons ???
They would compress much better with special settings I think (such as soften block noise).

For the moment I've got some questions:
I've got some .avi files of the series "Southpark", all at 352x240 and most of them at 14.985 (some at 29.97).
As I want to watch them on my standalone DVD Player, I have to convert them to MPEG1/2.
I don't need no standard (S)VCD as my DVD Player (although very cheap, 99€) really runs every resolution/bitrate combination possible

The source avis are all about 35 MB at a 20 minutes duration, so the quality isn't that good (but acceptable)

I use .avs files to frameserve the video because it is much faster than using the TMPGEnc Noise filter.

I use the Kvcd Template (-> 1 Pass automatic VBR (CQ_VBR); VBV buffer 40 kb, 1 I Picture; 5823 P Pictures and 3 B Pics per GOP, max 48 frames per GOP)

My aim: Get as many episodes as possible on one CDR @ nice quality

Now my questions:
Which filters would you tell me to use? (e.g. warpsharp, 2dcleaner... Please with params)

Motion search on cartoon material? Estimate/NOrmal/High/...?

Is the KVCD template good for this job? (CQ_VBR...)

Sound? I think mono @ 64 kbps is fine as they have no soundeffects or anything else but conversations.

Is TMPGEnc a good choise or would be CCE better?

Anything else to say?

Thx

[Razorblade2000]

...so???

[kwag]

Hi Razorblade,

If your source is already a low resolution 352x240, you should encode using one of the templates of the same resolution. I usually don't recommend re-encoding from DivX sources ( That's what you have, right? ) because it's already another layer of encoding already added to the one you're going to encode (macroblocks over more macroblocks). But if you want to put them on VCD's, then you have to re-encode! I see a problem with some of your sources. The ones you have at 14.985fps. You're going to have to do some juggling with an AviSynth script and see how it works by actually doubling the frame rate and converting to 29.97fps, and then encoding at 29.97fps. Forget about filtering, because your source is already digital. The filters you mention are used basically for analog captures, uncompressed AVI, huffy, etc., not on mpeg encodes, like what you already have. They just don't work correctly.
Anyway, use the 352x240 PLUS template, as it will save you some space on the CD-R, and should retain your original quality ( sort of! ) from your DivX files. It will never look better, but it should look almost identical to your original.

-kwag

[Razorblade2000]

It will never look better, but it should look almost identical to your original.

Actually... it looks better (a little bit)... (markoblocks go away when I do really aggressive 2dcleaning+noise reduction+bluring)

And the 14.985fps: Tmpeg does all of the work (I actually doesn't have 2 do anything...just leave the settings)

[kwag]

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
[B]

Actually... it looks better...
?? :eek: ??
Well, then :cool:

:D
-kwag

[Razorblade2000]

Soften block noise to 100, will this help me to get better results? I think so...

[Razorblade2000]

answering my own question:
0 means "less blocks"
100 means "more blocks"

it is inverted

[Razorblade2000]

what about changing the matrix to sth like this:

32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32


(I just realized that this is the Animation preset in Tmpgenc...)

Would this be better than using the KVCD Standard (For Southpark or Futurama)