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Patjen
15th August 2002, 01:17
I'm having these weird problems with the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, PAL version.

When selecting the subs, I can not click "next frame" (with 109b3) even though I can select which track of subs I want. I can however choose "next frame" using version 108b1. Don't know why really. Anybody maybe ?

BUT ! The main issue :
What it also weird, is that when I get to see the preview of the subs in the subtitle selection screen, the background of the subtitle is blue and when I select it, it grows considerably in size, taking the complete window. Before, I always saw the subtitle previews as plain white letters on a black background.

Apart from that, after the conversion I saw there were no permanent
subtitles in the movie, so I checked the subs folder and indeed it contained bmp images of the subs so I know they were extracted correctly.
While toying a bit with the Y-pos in the preview, I noticed the subs showed up at Y-pos 1 (DVD2SVCD program had it set to 2 for PAL...?)

So I ran another conversion with Y-pos = 1 and then in the resulting MPG, whenever a sub shows up, the entire screen is grayed out, only showing the sub, sub disappears and then the movie re-appears and vice versa. So I compared the BMP images of the subs to an other encode and they sure are a lot bigger (480x572 pixels).

Now I've been trying to experiment a bit with a single chapter to change the colour palette of the subs, that could be the solution, but no luck yet.

Maybe if I had a lot of time on my hands, I could also try cropping the BMP files with photoshop or something to a smaller size...hmm, could give it a try I suppose.

Anyway, should anyone have an explanation as to why 108b1 let me choose "next frame" and 109b3 not ?
Also, 108b1 is 100 times faster in showing the first subtitle than 109b3 for this movie...again anyone ? All tips are welcome since I don't want to mess with virtualdub sub filters or any other frameserving solution.
Labersack
15th August 2002, 07:39
I set the y-pos to -1 on my PAL-conversions.
I have 1.0.9b3 and the 'show next' button works fine.
So please post your log and maybe also you dvd2svcd.ini, so we can have a look at your settings.
xp_eric
15th August 2002, 09:15
I have had exactly the same problem with several recent Dutch rental DVD's (eg. Serendipidy, China Strike Force) :

- displaying subtitle selection dialog takes forever.
- generated subtitle bitmaps are fullscreen (eg. same resolution as movie.
- blue and black colors are swapped.

1.08b1 doesn't have these problems except the last but that can be fixed using the pallette button and swapping blue and black.

:sly: Eric
Patjen
15th August 2002, 12:40
I'll post the logs later on because I've already deleted them...
I've tried the method recommended by Titvs in an earlier post.
He suggested:
- create an SSA subscript file (which I did)
- edit the avisynth script by adding
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth\VobSub\textsub.vdf")
TextSub("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Source\mysubs.ssa")

I did this and it seemed to work great, only after the video encoding dvd2svcd reports an error "--10001.bmp is not a valid integer value"

Hereunder is the dvd2svcd subtitles file.ini
[SUBTITLES0]
ListID=32
EntryID=0
StreamID=0
OutputID=0
Language=Nederlands
LangCode=nl
PicNo=0
Mode=4:3
Selected=0
Palette0=0
Output0=0
Blend0=0
Palette1=0
Output1=16777215
Blend1=15
Palette2=0
Output2=1973790
Blend2=15
Palette3=0
Output3=8421504
Blend3=15
[SUBTITLES1]
ListID=33
EntryID=1
StreamID=33
OutputID=1
Language=Unspecified
LangCode=--
PicNo=35
Mode=4:3
Selected=1
Palette0=16711680
Output0=0
Blend0=0
Palette1=16777215
Output1=16777215
Blend1=15
Palette2=-1
Output2=1973790
Blend2=15
Palette3=0
Output3=8421504
Blend3=15
[SUBTITLES2]
ListID=34
EntryID=2
StreamID=34
OutputID=0
Language=Unspecified
LangCode=--
PicNo=0
Mode=4:3
Selected=0
Palette0=16711680
Output0=0
Blend0=0
Palette1=16777215
Output1=16777215
Blend1=15
Palette2=-1
Output2=1973790
Blend2=15
Palette3=0
Output3=8421504
Blend3=15
[SUBTITLES-TIMECODE01]
PTS0000=11380
ENDPTS0000=13100
Filename0000=--100001.bmp
Width0000=480
Height0000=572
YPos0000=450
PTS0001=19460
ENDPTS0001=21460
Filename0001=--100002.bmp
Width0001=480
Height0001=572
YPos0001=450
PTS0002=24220
ENDPTS0002=25760
Filename0002=--100003.bmp
Width0002=480
Height0002=572
YPos0002=450
PTS0003=26860
ENDPTS0003=29700
Filename0003=--100004.bmp
Width0003=480
Height0003=572
YPos0003=450
PTS0004=30300
ENDPTS0004=33420
Filename0004=--100005.bmp
Width0004=480
Height0004=572
YPos0004=450
PTS0005=34060
ENDPTS0005=38340
Filename0005=--100006.bmp
Width0005=480
Height0005=572
YPos0005=450
PTS0006=39140
ENDPTS0006=43180
Filename0006=--100007.bmp
Width0006=480
Height0006=572
YPos0006=450
PTS0007=47140
ENDPTS0007=51990
Filename0007=--100008.bmp
Width0007=480
Height0007=572
YPos0007=450
PTS0008=53380
ENDPTS0008=55800
Filename0008=--100009.bmp
Width0008=480
Height0008=572
YPos0008=450
PTS0009=56940
ENDPTS0009=59400
Filename0009=--100010.bmp
Width0009=480
Height0009=572
YPos0009=450
PTS0010=59940
ENDPTS0010=63420
Filename0010=--100011.bmp
Width0010=480
Height0010=572
YPos0010=450
PTS0011=64100
ENDPTS0011=68310
Filename0011=--100012.bmp
Width0011=480
Height0011=572
YPos0011=450
PTS0012=69100
ENDPTS0012=71100
Filename0012=--100013.bmp
Width0012=480
Height0012=572
YPos0012=450
PTS0013=71580
ENDPTS0013=73650
Filename0013=--100014.bmp
Width0013=480
Height0013=572
YPos0013=450
PTS0014=74140
ENDPTS0014=79370
Filename0014=--100015.bmp
Width0014=480
Height0014=572
YPos0014=450
PTS0015=87620
ENDPTS0015=89650
Filename0015=--100016.bmp
Width0015=480
Height0015=572
YPos0015=450
PTS0016=92660
ENDPTS0016=94620
Filename0016=--100017.bmp
Width0016=480
Height0016=572
YPos0016=450
PTS0017=97140
ENDPTS0017=98930
Filename0017=--100018.bmp
Width0017=480
Height0017=572
YPos0017=450
PTS0018=102020
ENDPTS0018=104410
Filename0018=--100019.bmp
Width0018=480
Height0018=572
YPos0018=450
PTS0019=107220
ENDPTS0019=110940
Filename0019=--100020.bmp
Width0019=480
Height0019=572
YPos0019=450
PTS0020=117020
ENDPTS0020=121440
Filename0020=--100021.bmp
Width0020=480
Height0020=572
YPos0020=450
PTS0021=135620
ENDPTS0021=140040
Filename0021=--100022.bmp
Width0021=480
Height0021=572
YPos0021=450
PTS0022=140860
ENDPTS0022=146340
Filename0022=--100023.bmp
Width0022=480
Height0022=572
YPos0022=450
PTS0023=149420
ENDPTS0023=154620
Filename0023=--100024.bmp
Width0023=480
Height0023=572
YPos0023=450
PTS0024=156260
ENDPTS0024=161390
Filename0024=--100025.bmp
Width0024=480
Height0024=572
YPos0024=450
PTS0025=162900
ENDPTS0025=165460
Filename0025=--100026.bmp
Width0025=480
Height0025=572
YPos0025=450
PTS0026=166900
ENDPTS0026=172840
Filename0026=--100027.bmp
Width0026=480
Height0026=572
YPos0026=450
PTS0027=175380
ENDPTS0027=182200
Filename0027=--100028.bmp
Width0027=480
Height0027=572
YPos0027=450
PTS0028=183420
ENDPTS0028=187740
Filename0028=--100029.bmp
Width0028=480
Height0028=572
YPos0028=450
PTS0029=190980
ENDPTS0029=192770
Filename0029=--100030.bmp
Width0029=480
Height0029=572
YPos0029=450
PTS0030=193220
ENDPTS0030=195470
Filename0030=--100031.bmp
Width0030=480
Height0030=572
YPos0030=450
PTS0031=204060
ENDPTS0031=206690
Filename0031=--100032.bmp
Width0031=480
Height0031=572
YPos0031=450
PTS0032=208580
ENDPTS0032=212550
Filename0032=--100033.bmp
Width0032=480
Height0032=572
YPos0032=450
PTS0033=214860
ENDPTS0033=218020
Filename0033=--100034.bmp
Width0033=480
Height0033=572
YPos0033=450
PTS0034=218660
ENDPTS0034=222170
Filename0034=--100035.bmp
Width0034=480
Height0034=572
YPos0034=450

where do these --1000xx.bmp values come from ? I've deactivated the ripping of subs in dvd2svcd since I'm adding them through avisynth...?
It seems D2S used an this old ini file that was left in the directory from an earlier try, even though I deselected the subtitles feature.

I'll try a reinstall of D2S later today and post the logs of my "usual" encoding run. (e.g. let D2S handle the subs instead of editing the avs script)

I might add that this is the first time ever I've had this subtitles problem because all my previous (200+, all PAL ) encodings have permanent subs and they are all perfect.

EDITED:

after a reinstall of D2S I started a new conversion in the conventional way and these are the ini files created.
I stopped the process while extracting the subs because I saw I was getting the same large bmp files.

latest ini files:
DVD2SVCD INI:

[Executables]
PVA Executable=
vStrip Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\vStrip\vStrip.exe
DVD2AVI Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe
BeSweet Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe
MadPlay Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\MADPlay\madplay.exe
MPEG51 Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\MPEG5.1\pub_enc.exe
CCE Executable=C:\dvdutils\CINEMA~1\cctsp.exe
VFAPI Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\VFAPI\Reader\VFAPIConv-EN.exe
TMPGEnc Executable=
Pulldown Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\pulldown\pulldown.exe
SubMux Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe
bbMPEG Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe
I-Author Executable=
VCDImager Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe
VCDXBuild Executable=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe
CDMage Executable=
RunPerCDImage Executable=
RunFinal Executable=
MPG2Dec DLL=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll
InverseTelecine DLL=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\InverseTelecine\Donald Graft\decomb.dll
Subtitle DLL=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\Avisynth Subtitler.dll
BMP Loader DLL=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\Avisynth BMP Loader.dll
SimpleResize DLL=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll
Title Picture=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Change CD Picture=C:\dvdutils\DVD2SVCD109b3\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
[Folders]
PVA Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
DVD2AVI Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
vStrip Folder=C:\rippeddvd
Audio Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
CCE Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
TMPGEnc Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
Pulldown Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
bbMPEG Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
I-Author Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\
Subpictures Folder=C:\ripped_svcd\Subs
[Settings]
XPos=131
YPos=186
FirstRun=0
Resize AVS Position=1
TemporalSmoother AVS Position=2
Sharpen AVS Position=3
UsePVA2SVCD=0
UseDVD2SVCD=1
UseAVI2SVCD=0
UseMPEG1=0
UseMPEG2=1
Convert to Canopus codec=0
Convert to Divx4=0
Use Frameselection=0
New Default Folder=0
Anamorphic Aspect=1
DVD2SVCD Level=0
UseDVDRip=1
UsevStrip=0
UseInternalRip=1
Eject DVD=0
iDCT=0
DVD2AVI Pause=0
Luminance Gain=0
Luminance Offset=0
Audio1Downsampling=0
Audio2Downsampling=1
Audio1BitRate=9
Audio2BitRate=7
tooLame Mode=0
Autodetect Azid Gain=1
Folder Structure Source=
Folder Structure Video=
Folder Structure Audio=
Folder Structure Muxed=
Folder Structure Subs=Subs
Intra=8,16,19,22,26,27,29,34,16,16,22,24,27,29,34,37,19,22,26,27,29,34,34,38,22,22,26,27,29,34,37,40,22,26,27,29,32,35,40,48,26,27,29,32,35,40,48,58,26,27,29,34,38,46,56,69,27,29,35,38,46,56,69,83
NonIntra=16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,19,20,21,22,23,24,26,27,20,21,22,23,25,26,27,28,21,22,23,24,26,27,28,30,22,23,24,26,27,28,30,31,23,24,25,27,28,30,31,33
Matrice Preset=
Use deafult Matrice=1
LFEDownmixLR6Ch=-3
LFEDownmixLFE6Ch=0
CenterDownmix6Ch=0
SurroundDownmix6Ch=0
DynamicCompression6Ch=1
StereoDownmixType6Ch=0
RearChannelFiltering6Ch=0
DialogNorm6Ch=0
LFEDownmixLR2Ch=-3
LFEDownmixLFE2Ch=0
CenterDownmix2Ch=-1
SurroundDownmix2Ch=-1
DynamicCompression2Ch=1
StereoDownmixType2Ch=0
RearChannelFiltering2Ch=0
DialogNorm2Ch=0
No Audio Conversion=0
TemporalSmoother Strength=2
TemporalSmoother Radius=1
Use TemporalSmoother=0
Use Sharpen=0
Sharpen Value=0
ResizeMethod=2
Avisynth Bicubic b Value=0
Avisynth Bicubic c Value=0.75
Flip Vertival=0
Add ResampleAudio=1
Resize To=0
Use CCE=1
Use TMPGEnc=0
CCE Safe Mode=0
NoOfpasses=3
CCE Image Quality=17
CCE Anti noise value=2
CCE Anti noise=0
CBR=0
One Pass VBR=0
Multi Pass VBR=1
CCE Field Order=2
Progressive=1
Auto Intra DC=0
DVD Compliant=0
Restrict auto I frame insertion=0
Close all GOPs=0
Intra DC=2
M GOP=3
MN GOP=5
SEQ Header=1
Constrained Parameter Set=1
TMPGEnc Rate Control Mode=2
TMPGEnc Motion search precision=4
TMPGEnc Field Order=2
Frames pr spread=50
Spread=40
OffsetFixed CQ Value=80
Use fixed CQ Value=0
DC component precision=2
Output YUV data as Basic YCbCr not CCIR601=0
Use floating point DCT=1
No motion search for still picture part by half pixel=1
Soften block noise=0
Soften Intra=35
Soften NonIntra=35
TMPGEnc GOP I Pictures=1
TMPGEnc GOP P Pictures=4
TMPGEnc GOP B Pictures=3
TMPGEnc SEQ Headers=1
TMPGEnc Max frames in GOP=0
TMPGEnc Close GOPs=0
TMPGEnc Detect Scene Change=1
Enabled Padding=0
Dont Delete Files=1
Create VAF=1
QFactor=5
Linear quantizer scale=1
Zigzag scanning order=1
Use2Streams=0
Pri1Audio1=28
Pri1Audio2=-1
Pri2Audio1=-1
Pri2Audio2=-1
Sub1=80
Sub2=-1
Sub3=-1
Sub4=-1
Sub5=-1
Sub6=-1
Sub7=-1
Sub8=-1
Azid Gain Offset=6
SubOutputPalette0=clBlack
SubBlendPalette0=0
SubOutputPalette1=clWhite
SubBlendPalette1=15
SubOutputPalette2=$001E1E1E
SubBlendPalette2=15
SubOutputPalette3=clGray
SubBlendPalette3=15
Rip subtitles=1
Min. Delay. Between Subtitles=100
Resize Subtitles=100
SVCD subtitles=0
CVD subtitles=0
Permanent subtitles=1
PAL Y-Pos=-1
NTSC Y-Pos=-1
bbMPEG MPEG1=0
bbMPEG VCD=0
bbMPEG MPEG2=0
bbMPEG SVCD=1
bbMPEG DVD=0
bbMPEG VBR=1
bbMPEG Pad VCD=0
bbMPEG Write PEC=1
bbMPEG Add Scan Offsets=1
bbMPEG Align Sequence Headers=1
bbMPEG Use Private Stream 2=0
bbMPEG Computed Bitrate=1
bbMPEG TimeStamps=0
bbMPEG Pulldown=2
bbMPEG MuxRate=0
bbMPEG Pack Size=2324
bbMPEG Packets Pack=1
bbMPEG Video Buffer=230
bbMPEG Audio 1 Buffer=4
bbMPEG Audio 2 Buffer=4
bbMPEG videoDelay Adjustment=180
bbMPEG audioDelay Adjustment=180
bbMPEG audio1Delay Adjustment=180
Use MPEGAV=0
MinsHigh1=50
MinsHigh2=76
MinsHigh3=100
MinsHigh4=125
MinsHigh5=163
NumCd1=1
NumCd2=1
NumCd3=2
NumCd4=2
NumCd5=3
NumCd6=3
CDSize 1=800
CDSize 2=800
CDSize 3=800
CDSize 4=800
CDSize 5=800
CDSize 6=800
MaxBitrate=2530
MinBitrate=300
MaxAvg=2230
MinAvg=1600
Adjust Audio Bitrate=1
Use Min. Avg.=0
Force Film=0
Movie Offset=2
CDOverlap=2
UseCDOverlap=1
FixedChapters=0
DVDChapters=1
PBCType=0
Data Preparer=dvd2svcd
Use I-Author=0
Use VCDImager=0
No images=0
Use VCDXBuild=1
Length of Chapters=60
Use TitlePicture=0
Use ChangeCD Picture=0
Use ChangeCD Picture on All=0
Use EntrySVD=0
Save XML=0
Save Movie Info=0
ProcessPriority=1
SmartDeinterlace Mode=2
SmartDeinterlace Treshold=10
SmartDeinterlace Denoise=1
SmartDeinterlace Blend=0
SmartDeinterlace Fast=1
Edit Avisynth Script file=1
Use CDMage=0
RunPerCDImage=0
RunPerCDImage Params=
RunFinal=0
RunFinal Params=
Automatic Shutdown=0


DVD2SVCD SUBTITLES INI:
[SUBTITLES0]
ListID=32
EntryID=0
StreamID=0
OutputID=0
Language=Nederlands
LangCode=nl
PicNo=0
Mode=4:3
Selected=0
Palette0=0
Output0=0
Blend0=0
Palette1=0
Output1=16777215
Blend1=15
Palette2=0
Output2=1973790
Blend2=15
Palette3=0
Output3=8421504
Blend3=15
[SUBTITLES1]
ListID=33
EntryID=1
StreamID=33
OutputID=1
Language=Unspecified
LangCode=--
PicNo=0
Mode=4:3
Selected=1
Palette0=16711680
Output0=0
Blend0=0
Palette1=16777215
Output1=16777215
Blend1=15
Palette2=-1
Output2=1973790
Blend2=15
Palette3=0
Output3=8421504
Blend3=15
[SUBTITLES2]
ListID=34
EntryID=2
StreamID=34
OutputID=0
Language=Unspecified
LangCode=--
PicNo=0
Mode=4:3
Selected=0
Palette0=16711680
Output0=0
Blend0=0
Palette1=16777215
Output1=16777215
Blend1=15
Palette2=-1
Output2=1973790
Blend2=15
Palette3=0
Output3=8421504
Blend3=15


I'm going to try a new encode with an edited avisynth script to use the textsub.vdf. Is this filter capable of handling the </i> Italic codes found in the SSA file ? Earlier test just inserted these chars in the movie without putting the sub in italic ?