DVX bugs and suggestions

[stax76]

2.25 is available for download, I've done quite a few changes

-OggMux 0.9.1
-BeSweet 1.4RC7
-AviSynth 2.0.4
-DVD Anleitung
-DVB Anleitung
-Audio menu allows audio encoding with VirtualDub
-Audio menu has language selection for OGM files
-split OGM files
-improved profiles
-improved profile preview
-joblist items can be checked/unchecked
-audio command lines include program path so it's not limited to BeSweet anymore
-saving profiles to the settings folder will not save paths information
-other small changes and fixes


@Emp3r0r

I've looked into your problems with d2v and old profiles, I have no problens here and couldn't find a bug or something. Old profiles can now be used. Can you use the avs file created by DVX, have you tried to open the VOB's instead of the d2v file?

[Emp3r0r]

@Dolemite: Upgrading from .223 caused no problems for me this time. I haven't had much time to test your program. I just got my P4 up to 2.8ghz. I was seeing 36fps encoding with XviD and standand ntsc settings. I believe your DVX needs some GUI reworking. How much of your program is .NET objects that I can call from VB or C#. I'll take a look at your source once I get Visual Studio.NET reinstalled, keep improving it! I have a few features I'd like to help add to it.

[stax76]

what would you change on the GUI, what do mean exactly with how much of your program is .NET objects and what features would you like to help to add

[Koepi]

me'sa likes empe's new avatar!

Cheers,
Koepi
the beck's from the hansa folks.

[Emp3r0r]

well, DVX is much like a megatool that can start many different programs. The avisynth support is cool. I think with little work it could be a more useful megatool that automates more of the work. For example, give it d2v, ifo and AC3 file and get a OGM with xvid video, vorbis audio and chapters in return. Anyway, I'm going to install VS.NET tonight so I'll take a look at the newest source. Did you know some guy did some managed C# code to call directshow same as C++. That might be useful to you. Look at http://www.codeproject.com

PS: thanks koepi, i'm a homer fan

[stax76]

automates more of the work sounds good, I always try to automate everything and save everything in different profile systems so I have as less as possible work

For example, give it d2v, ifo and AC3 file and get a OGM with xvid video, vorbis audio and chapters in return

except ifo support, all this works, you don't even have to create a d2v yourself, you only have to select the first of the vob's, the ac3 file(s) demuxed by DVD Decrypter, the chapterlist created by DVD Decrypter(I could search for the chapterlist and auto open it) and a profile or two and you are done, it automates everything. What information of the ifo file could be useful for DVX?

Did you know some guy did some managed C# code to call directshow same as C++.

for this I have to buy and learn C# first, for what could DS be useful in DVX?

[Emp3r0r]

i use ifo to get chapter data. it is weird that dvd decrypter creates a different chapter file than chapterXtractor. I wonder which one is correct?

Anyway, I tested your program and IT WORKED! :D

Suggestions and Problems for DVX
1: Forced Film wasn't used in dvd2avi
2: No easy way to do Credits
3: Audio should be done first, then calculate video size
4: Confusing GUI
5: No progress indicator during OggMux

[stax76]

i use ifo to get chapter data. it is weird that dvd decrypter creates a different chapter file than chapterXtractor. I wonder which one is correct?

I don't know chapterXtractor but will take a look into it

Forced Film wasn't used in dvd2avi

you must add the cl args in the Audio menu under DVD2AVI, for Forced Film use -FO=1

No easy way to do Credits

credits can be cuttet with DVD2AVI, when using XviD, there is a button for credits in the crop menü, for DivX I will never support credits, this is a lot of work and probably will introduce new bugs, I also don't think it brings better Quality because a good codec won't waste bitrate in two pass mode

Audio should be done first, then calculate video size

I add support for this in the next version

Confusing GUI

could you please explain what confuses you

No progress indicator during OggMux

this was already suggested to Koepi, of course it would be nice, but I don't feel it's very important

[stax76]

2.26 is out now, I did some new screenshots, because I have some nice new features like XP Look, all AviSynth Filters in the config file now, all Input Formats supported by, DVD2AVI, AviSynth or PVAStrumento are supported now, some new menu's and a few other things

[DSPguru]

according to the screenshot, you had removed '-scale 1' from the -lame() section.
any particular reason ?

[sillKotscha]

isn't '-scale 1' redundant?

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by sillKotscha
isn't '-scale 1' redundant? isn't '--alt-preset 128' redundant ;) ?

it's all about perfecting the sound quality.
i guess most switches excluding '-input' & '-output' are redundant. but still, ppl use them.
don't you :) ?

[sillKotscha]

since I switchted to Vorbis (still using '--alt-preset' for my music-cd transcoding) '--alt-preset 128' is redundant for me but nevertheless you're right...

Originally posted by DSPguru
but still, ppl use them.
don't you :) ?

I do ;)

[stax76]

@DSPGuru
somebody told me that it is redundant

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by Dolemite
@DSPGuru
somebody told me that it is redundant :rolleyes:

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by Dolemite
@DSPGuru
somebody told me that it is redundant

I can confirm that... it was the one who was sharing WaveBooster algorithm with you, and made lots of other inputs

[DSPguru]

LigH read the complete commandline and said that fixing alt-preset's scaling is redundant ?
or were he talking in general ? (like in CD->MP3 process..)

anyway,
use whatever you want :)

the commandline in my profiles is my suggestion.

[sillKotscha]

I can't remember quite well, but as far as I know he had a look over these lines (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30638&highlight=dvx ) and within the german doom9-forum he was asking dolomite why using '-scale 1' because it is (more or less)redundant...

here: http://forum.doom9.de/viewtopic.php?t=419 is some german "blabla" for you but you can quess what LigH was answering...

[DSPguru]

10x sill !

again, i believe i know what i'm doing. but you surely have the freedom to do something else.

imho,
the combination of azid's dialog normalization + static pregain of 10db + dynanmic postgain plus + disabling scaling of alt-preset to 0.93 by using '--scale 1' is the right way to go.
why won't you compose a small comparision test and see which method ends up with a louder mp3 :) ?


btw,
where's hongkongfu ?

[stax76]

where is HongKongFu

I changed my name because DVX and Dolemite are well known in the DVB sceene for a very very long time. I didn't want to use different names in DVD and DVB anymore so I changed it to the name I'm already known. The second thing is HongKongFu sounds funny but I thought it would not be serious enough to represent a program like DVX, that's the story

[DSPguru]

k :)

[stax76]

I want to add menus for AviSynth and BeSwweet, are there any suggestions, I was looking around in the forum and realized there are so many different settings and because I'm not very good in this I got to ask for help now

http://home.arcor.de/frankskare1/noise.jpg

[stax76]

@DSPGuru

thanks for suggesting your profiles, I did put them back up, BeSweet is a real great program, I've made a menu for it for people who are not so comfortable with commandlines:)

@all

AviSynth also real great, I made also a menu, any suggestions for noise filters:confused:

I've uploaded a new beta version, feel free to write comments and suggestions, writing a program for advanced users without being self so much a advanced user is kind of hard sometimes

[stax76]

there where a few bugs found so I had to release a new version quickly, here is the changelog

2.28b
-fixed bug wenn cutting with VirtualDub
-fixed bug with the DVB target path
-fixed bug in audio menu
-quick search for filters
-improved profile menus
-improved VirtualDub menu
-other small improvements
-Convolution3D Beta3
-Decomb 3.9
-GreedyHMA 0.4.0.0
-SimpleResize 0.3.1
-AviSynth 2.05
-BeSweet 1.4 RC7
-OggMux 0.91

[stax76]

after new versions of BeSweet and AviSynth were released I decided to release a new version too. First I wanted to make a full version but many people including myself have only modems and I've got traffic problems too, so I decided to make only a update.

http://home.tiscalinet.de/pva2divx/dvx233update.exe

2.33
-BeSweet 1.4 final
-Convolution3d beta4
-MPEGDecoder 1.31
-added AviSynth 2.06 and Lame 3.92 ACM to the setup
-added Lanczos Resize to the AviSynth menu
-updated AviSynth filter config file
-if left + right is not a multible of 4 using crop in AviSynth there will be a green line on the right side, this will now be avoided
-archiv of 2.32 was corrupt, it had to be unpacked with
the context menu
-improved audio profiles
-buttons on the general tab can be customized,
available are VirtualDub, Codec, Crop, DVB,
Compressibility and Encode
-the bitrate for muxing is now calculated with the source
length instead of the target length
-split works now with OggMux, VirtualDub and Nandub

DVB related:
-replaced Lame ACM ABR profiles with CBR profiles
because ABR goes out of sync
-better support for ds.jar, cutting AC3 and MP2 files with
wave header in VirtualDub should be no problem, ds.jar 0.59f is included (thanxs to dvb.matt)
-support for PVAStrumento higher than 2.0.20 is broke, 2.0.20 is included

[JohnPienaar]

hi- just been trying out DVX- i've got the .NET dist. installed along with the .NET SP2, and DVX works fine, except i can't seem to install the 2.32 update- when i run the file i just get a "program too big to fit in memory" error- is there something i'm doing wrong here? (running XP with SP1)

i also have to agree with Emp3r0r on the GUI issue- it's not the most intuitive interface- it would be great if semi-newbies like myself could easily make use of DVX- the inclusion of an English guide might help in this regard.

otherwise looks like this could be a fantastic prog :)

john

[stax76]

hi,
the archieve of 2.32 is corrupt, it can only be unpacked with the context menu, but I've uploaded a new full version

http://home.tiscalinet.de/pva2divx/dvx234.exe

i also have to agree with Emp3r0r on the GUI issue- it's not the most intuitive interface

what's wrong with the gui? Any suggestions to make it more intuitive?

the inclusion of an English guide might help in this regard

I wrote a manual in german, my english is not good enough to translate it, but there are a lot popup tooltips.

Regards
Dolemite

[stax76]

the last two versions fixes a few issues, I hope everything works now

[stax76]

Hi there,

I've uploaded a new beta version of DVX.
There are a lot new advanced DVD features.
As usual I put it short because I don't
want to bother with my poor english.

Best Regards,
Dolemite

MPEGDecoder 1.32
Decomb 4.0
OggMux 0.9.4
Convolution3D 1.01
Special credits treatment for DivX and XviD
Bitrate correction after credits encoding
Bitrate correction after audio encoding
Overhead calculation
Subtitle size calculation
Length detection after cutting
Info tab as InternetExplorer
DVD2AVI menus is now expandable
Crop menu is now expandable
Format can now manually set to 16:9
Interleaving and Preload can be edited
Updated XviD, should work now with all
Releases, even future releases
GUI redesign
Bugfixes
Other small changes

DVB:
PVAStrumento 2.0.23a
Support for multible source files for PVAStrumento

http://www.planetdvb.net/dvx/

[stax76]

new version online, again beta stuff, but I did a few tests, and everything worked fine :)

http://www.planetdvb.net/bin.exe

Changing the Target Width will now
change the target height instead of
the aspect ratio

Bugfix using the joblist

Crop menu expans now on the left
side on resolutions lower 1024x768

Bugfix using the BeSweet menu the
commandline wasn't saved

Preview for AviSynth scipt

Option to deaktivate macros in the
AviSynth script editor

Log menu that logs even all 60 XviD
settings for each pass while encoding

Compressibility test can be configured

Setup on first start, no external program any longer

other fixes

[atracus]

Dolemite,
I've tried all mixed combinations of Win2K OR XP and your versions .34, .35, .37 and bin.exe = that makes a total of 8 different installs on my 2 PCs.

Outcome: the forever-repeating nasty error "DVX couldn't detect the source data", i.e. when pushing the "Crop..." button.

With bin.exe, I could at least create a .d2v out of 1 single .VOB, but the net outcome didn't change.

What did I do wrong? I installed .NET + SP2 on W2k v5.00.2195 SP2, and am available to provide to you any additional details which let you diagnose this behav.

thx in advance

[atx]

[stax76]

first of all, I'm sorry, you did a lot test with no solution at all and I have still no answer to this frequently reported bug. To enable DVX to be compatible with all AviSynth source filters and plugin source filters, it is required to read the information about the source from the AviSynth script. What happens when you open the script *_Source.avs in Windows Media Player, does it show a proper overall length?

[atracus]

no, in ZoomPlayer the overall length is 0 (zero), but it plays fine-

WMP (v9.00.00.2903) goes crazy too, and pops up "The selected file has an extension that is not recognized by WMP, but the player may still be able to play it. Because the extension is unknown to the player, you should be sure that the file comes from a trustworthy source. Do you want the player to play the file? Y/N buttons" - I select Y and IT PLAYS, I go for File/Properties and Lentgh is still zero, Video Codec appears to be "Subtitle Mixer".

One more reason to stick to ZoomPlayer, heh ;) ?

[atx]

[stax76]

I've played a few AviSynth scripts in WMP9 and Zoom Player, overall length was always correct, I've also installed VobSob 2.16 and tested on W2k and XP, very strange problem

[atracus]

well - thanks for trying, I checked whether I had AVISynth installed twice, but nope - the version is the latest, the same as your distribution.

I also tried to reposition the .VOBs into a folder path with no spaces in names, but nothing better showed up.

My guess is that it has something to do with .NET (in)stability, but I have no evidences.

Anything you may need me to do for diagnose, please lemme know.

[atx]

[stax76]

shure it has nothing to do with .NET, it is a problem with WinAPI's and AviSynth. As far as I know Zoom Player uses DirectShow for AVS, and a use MCI, a older technique so to switch to DirectShow would't solve the problem because all players have that problem. I don't have even something to suspect, all I know this is strange, but I will ask Zoom Player and AviSynth developers again

[Blight]

Yes, Zoom Player is written in DirectShow.

What you need to test is:

1. Does the AVS load properly in virtualdub (VFW reader)
2. If so, which filters are loaded in ZP when it shows 0-length (right-click video, filter properties).

If it loads in vdub and fails in a directshow player, it's possible that some directshow filter is latching onto the graph. Drop a screenshot of the filter properties list and I may be able to tell you the offending filter.

[atracus]

Well guys, this is my .avs script:

MPEG2Source("C:\Documents and Settings\i019637\My Documents\rip\Video_ts\VTS_01_1.d2v")
ConvertToRGB


1. Yes, the .avs loads correctly into VDub
2. the filters loaded in ZP are, in "order of appearance": Video Renderer - Subtitle Mixer; please find the screenshot attached.

My AVISynth version is 2.0.6.0

Hope this helps....
thanks in advance

[atx]

[stax76]

what's Subtitle Mixer? Maybe that's the reason

[atracus]

Originally posted by Dolemite
what's Subtitle Mixer? Maybe that's the reason

that's it, man! :) :) :)

I had Tobias' Subtitle Package on (see http://tobias.everwicked.com/), and once uninstalled everything worked fine.

thanks for the clue!

...and ...I hope this could help someone else!

[atx]

[stax76]

I'm happy to hear that, I've got to thank you and of course Blight too

[stax76]

Hello,
I have no big plans for new features and have made some more test so I have uploaded 2.40 RC 1

there are some small changes since the last beta

skew and interlieving works now too when VirtualDub is used for audio processing
Changed a the functions that control programs
THe path of the XviD stats files is now set to the path of the temp files
other small things


a small guide for everybody who already did a DVD copy

demux with DVD Decrypter max 2 audio streams, other streams should be disabled
open the first of the vobs
crop and set the credits start
Video -> Extras -> select the movie script
Video -> Menu -> create the movie script
Video -> Extras -> select the Credits script
Video -> Menu -> create the movie script
put the resolution to get about 0.25 BPF
make the Comp Test
put the resolution to get a BPF value 70% of the Comp Test
load a audio profile

I'm sorry, the documentation is only in german and my english is not good enough to translate it, the only english help that is currently available are the tooltips

Best Regards,
Dolemite

[stax76]

Hi there,
I was working a little on DVX, as usual it is in beta state, if there are any bugs, problems, questions, suggestions or whatever, please feel free to write a comment

Regards,
Dolemite


Chanelog:

DVX is not bundled with software anymore because it's hard for modem users like me to upload and download 5 MB each time.

The AviSynth menu items can be customized with (CtRL + Click)

other small things

[stax76]

I've added support for yv12 and other small things in 2.42. There is not much feedback, maybe I'm doing something wrong, so suggestions would be appreciated

Regards,
Dolemite

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by Dolemite
There is not much feedback, maybe I'm doing something wrong, so suggestions would be appreciated

that's true but at least 1242 hits regarding your thread - I guess everyone using your tool is totaly satisfied :) ... maybe there're no bugs, that's why no one can complain.

Instead of complaining you would like to recieve positive feedback as well - ok, I appreciate that support for yv12 is integrated but must admit, that I'm not using DVX... it's still GKnot in my case ;) and until yv12 isn't totaly stable I won't use it... but only because I don't have the time to test everything new - I know, it's a pitty :D

cheers Sill

[stax76]

Hi there,
finally there is a XviD comp test (thanks to Nitrogen) and Syntax Highlighting in 2.43

Regards,
Dolemite

[stax76]

Hi there,
I did some AviSynth related improvements

2.44

-the description of the AVS filters is now the original html description displayed in in small browser control
-replaced playing the script with a player with a own preview with a lot keys like single frame step
-compressibility check works now when the video is cutted with VirtualDub, in order to code this I had to code a VirtualDub cutting to AviSynth Trim converter which is of course also available in the AviSynth editor

[stax76]

new version again, currently I have no ideas for new features or how to make the program easier to use, so if anybody has a suggestion, please post it

Regards,
Dolemite


2.46

-improved the interactive help
-size and bitrate can be changed with the page up/down keys
-fixed System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException on non XP Systems
-commandlin interface rewritten, examples can be found at the bottom
of the german manual in the Info tab
-crop width and crop height are displayed on the Info panel

[Emp3r0r]

I keep getting the error message that tells me certain characters are not allowed even though I'm not using those characters. It makes your program useless. Is my file path not legal in your program?

C:\Documents and Settings\Name Here\My Documents\Video Processing\VOBs\matrix\matrix.d2v

[Update] Oh, the dialog says "ss" is not allowed, why is that?

[stax76]

I think there is a program which has a problem with a character used in german "ß", I do not remember which program has the problem. I blocked "ß" but don't ask me why .NET thinks "ß" is "ss". I will take a look into that, thanks for pointing this out