Will Gordian Knot have other subtitle options?

[Semmemon]

Because the subtitled vob files are usually terrible. Ie: Improper grammer, spelling errors, bad translations..etc. With japanese anime you see it alot. Gordian Knot works great for me doing anime encoding but the problem is I can't and refuse to use the original translations from the DVDs I rip. They're dreadful.

I take the original translations and correct them and although I'm not perfect at correcting its 100 times better then what the original is. Gordian Knot only needs to allow a different type of subtitle file other then from vob's. (.ssa , .srt ) Either one of those would be good.


Oh and one other thing.. why is it that my Gordian Knot doesn't have Inverse Telecine? I have all the other ones from the picture in the divx5 encoding page for GK. I have all the needed files so could be wrong? I'm forced to use either smart or fast deinterlace. :(

[Schultz]

Well for the subs you can edit the script and add in the plugins yourself.. if you installed the VobSub package and selected to install the TextSub plugin you can load it via
LoadPlugin("path\to\textsub.vdf") (it should of been installed into your virtualdub plugins directory)
and then just use the Command
TextSub("path\to\sub.srt") or ssa if you want to use them.
and then just save the avs file and encode.

You should also see Inverse Telecine on the right side for delinterlacing or editing the avs file you can uncomment out other lines for Decomb or GreedyHMA which are very good Inverse Telecine plugins.

[manono]

Hi-

why is it that my Gordian Knot doesn't have Inverse Telecine?

Do you have the latest version (the 0.26 update)? And as Shultz says, you can always manually edit the .avs.

[Semmemon]

But I still don't see it as an option, never have. Heh.

I'll try what you said, thanks guys.

[manono]

Hi-

I just figured out why you can't see the IVTC option. You made your .d2v with Force Film turned on. That's a no-no. Go back into DVD2AVI and make it again with no Field Operation (30fps). That clever guy WEF doesn't let you see the IVTC option if you try and IVTC a .d2v at 23.976fps because then you'll wind up with a 19.90fps movie (and you sure don't want that).

[theReal]

...but, as long as ForceFilm works for your specific source, it's much better than any other ivtc method!

[manono]

Yeah-you're right theReal. I may have muddled the issue. I just assumed he knew what he was doing. But on the other hand, he was trying to IVTC a Forced Film .d2v, so...

So, to clarify: Forced Film will work in the majority of cases (the guide says when Film>95%). In cases where you need to IVTC, make your .d2v with no Field Operation, and then the IVTC Option will be available in GKnot.

[Semmemon]

Could you clarify more on how and were I can add the .ssa/.srt files to my avi? I didn't get what you meant. :stupid:

[Schultz]

If you installed TextSub (do full install of VobSub) then just replace the LoadPlugin("vobsub.dll") to
LoadPlugin("path\to\TextSub.vdf") this will either be in a virtualdub dir that you selected or if you didn't select one its where you installed VobSub to.. default drive:\Program Files\Gabest\Vobsub
then where you have
VobSub("somesubfile.sub") replace with
TextSub("path\to\sub.ssa") or srt if you use that.. Make sure to do this when you manually click the edit button to bring up the avs file instead of using the GUI that TheWef shows.. also those lines make sure to uncomment them by removing the # at the beginning.

[Semmemon]

I had to have done exactly what you said to do. But when I tried to start the job it doesnt do anything. It gives me something like this in the log file:

12:32:52 PM: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\Documents and Settings\Semmemon\Desktop\1.avs
12:32:52 PM: Finished DivX5-First Pass. Duration: 0 seconds.
12:32:52 PM: Trying to open Log-file.
12:32:52 PM: Error: Could not open C:\Documents and Settings\Semmemon\Desktop\1.log
12:32:52 PM: Error: Could not count encoded Frames.
12:32:52 PM: Speed: 0.000 Frames per Second.
12:32:52 PM: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
12:32:52 PM: WARNING: Settings: 46945
12:32:52 PM: WARNING: Counted: 0
12:32:52 PM: WARNING: Difference: 46945
12:32:52 PM: Correcting Bitrate...
12:32:52 PM: Original Bitrate = 1066 k(=1000)Bits/s
12:32:52 PM: ERROR: Correction impossible.
12:32:52 PM: Now encoding at 1066 k(=1000)Bits/s

It just flat out craps out and I haven't got a clue as to why. :(

[Schultz]

Open the avs file in a media player or VirtualDub and see what error you get or if you see anything at all.

[manono]

Hi-

Yeah-it's almost certainly an .avs problem. It's always a good idea, as Shultz implies, to open it in the Preview in GKnot or in VDub and to scroll around to make sure everything looks OK and it doesn't crash. Perhaps post it here and we can have a look (take out all lines beginning with #).

[Semmemon]

"Avisynth: caught an access violation at 0x1000bbbf, attempting to read from 0x08565340" Is what I get for the preview.

When I do IVTC and no subs its works fine, but went I do subs I get the above error. When I do the subs only and no IVTC it works.

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\VirtualDub\plugins\TextSub.vdf")
# SOURCE
mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Semmemon\Desktop\1.d2v")
# IVTC
Telecide()
Decimate(cycle=5)
crop(10,0,700,480)
# SUBTITLES
TextSub("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\GX_VOB1.ssa")
# RESIZING
BicubicResize(512,384,0,0.5)

[Schultz]

Try and comment out the Decomb.dll file and Telecide/Deciminate use the GreedyHMA one instead.. I never can get the Decomb to work on my computer correct.. and see if it works then.

[manono]

Hi-

Well, you're making progress-you can IVTC in GKnot now, and see the subs under certain conditions, and you've narrowed down the problem yourself. Shultz knows more about subs than I do, but if I were having the problem, I'd try three things:

1.Rename the subs from GX_VOB1.ssa to something like movie.ssa (both the subs themselves and the TextSub line)

2.Change the position of the TextSub line in the .avs. First, try putting it after the Resize line.

3.Second, try putting it before the Crop or Telecide-Decimate lines.

I would try them in that order, and leave the name changed (in case the "_" has something to do with it). But perhaps Shultz has some better advice.

Edit: Shultz does have some different advice-but I have yet to have any problems at all with Decomb and subs. However, I always put Decomb after Crop-faster that way. But I don't see how that would have anything to do with the sub problem

[Semmemon]

I tried both the IVTC and the greedy method.

They both worked but both gave me like crash violations for virtualdub for both the 1st and 2nd pass. But the video did work in both cases. The greedy method had some ghost imaging that I was getting when I used the divx3 SBC encoding method.

I don't know what the errors did or did not do but it works so I donno.

[Semmemon]

Can you put in multiple text subfiles? Like one after another?

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Opps ignore this sorry. I can do it, heh.