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montgom
31st July 2002, 10:47
IS TMPEG (TMPGEnc Plus 2.56.39.143) better than CCE 2.5?

Based upon 2 weeks of ripping and encoding the same DVD, I would say no. CCE 2.5 is better than TMPGEnc Plus 2.56.39.143.

Why?

1) Speed. CCE is 2x faster than TMPEG. 100 minute DVD done on a Laptop with 1 GHZ P3 CPU, 384 MB RAM with a slooow hard drive. 10 hours for CCE and 24 hours for TMPEG. This should not be news. Same DVD for each test, same laptop, nothing changed.
2) Quality. CCE looks a tiny bit better than TMPEG. Subtle differences, but I have asked others to look at the SVCD and compare them; they always choose the CCE SVCD. Not very scientific, but that is all I have. Is the difference in quality worth the trouble of one over the other? No.

I used the default settings in DVD2SVCD with both programs. Just accepted the author’s defaults, which work pretty darn well!

Now, is CCE 2.5 perfect? My impression is that I got BSOD for the first time after using CCE. No problems with TMPGEnc Plus 2.56.39.143. Can I prove it? Nope, but TMPEG never had a problem. CCE seems to be a little more finicky.

Now, this BSOD with CCE did demonstrate that the recover mode with DVD2SVCD works great! The SVCD are very good with no ill effects noted from using the recover mode.

All I can say, is the author of DVD2SVCD is awesome. Great work.

DJ Bobo
31st July 2002, 11:03
1) CCE is a lot faster (that you already know)
2) CCE is better for MPEG-2, TMPG is better for MPEG-1
3) CCE is crap for audio, TMPG is very good for audio

klona
31st July 2002, 11:05
Good summary
I agree

montgom
31st July 2002, 11:17
Used 128 with both. I had my observers compare the audio and no one preferred one CCE vs TMPEG when it came to audio (this was played on a standalone DVD player)
Thanks,

klona
31st July 2002, 11:24
for me CCE is crap for audio as often crashing during the process.
No pb with quality when working.
Anyway as I use it for DVD re authoring, i don't need sound and use AC3 stream directly. So not an heavy user of the audio feature of cce or tmpg

DJ Bobo
31st July 2002, 13:23
128k is crap anyway, whatever encoder you use. Don't ever go under 192kbps Stereo (remember that this is not MP3 ;))
CCE is definitely crap for audio encoding (really bad quality), and I'm not talking in theory ;)

montgom
31st July 2002, 14:52
I did not know that 128 was a bad choice. Thanks.
So it defaults to 228 and I should leave it there?



What about the CCE guide? Should I follow the advice in it and modify my CCE settings, even though I use DVD2SVCD as my shell? Will the CCE changes work with DV2SVCD?
Thanks,