Greek Translation [Archive]

epere4

27th July 2002, 04:22

Wow, another translation project!!
Wellcome!!

I think that if you follow the Translation Guidelines (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28366) and start something you can get some people that can help you. Once the project is started you can give some other guy (that has more free time) the control and he can continues it. Sometimes all it is needed is the first step.

See you.

Acreff

30th July 2002, 06:36

geocapital, please get in touch with me. Perhaps I can help a little bit.

baikas@usa.net

Regards

Acreff

REIGN_

30th July 2002, 08:12

I could also translate some pieces. Get in touch with me at
gkalogeropoulos@yahoo.com

geocapital

30th July 2002, 12:03

Katarxin, gia opoion to dei,

to paron thread 8a einai to thread tis episimis epikoinwnias mesw thread gia tin proodo pou 8a kanoume. An den protimate ta mail, diladi.

Telospantwn, 3ekinisa kai ta advanced features tou SmartRipper.

REIGN_

30th July 2002, 14:18

Ego 3ekinao to DVD Ripper comparison. 8eorhsa oti einai to pio sosto mias kai oloi apo to ripping 3ekinane gia na kanoyn mia tainia

Acreff

30th July 2002, 19:47

As ksekiniso kai ego loipon.
Analambano to How to create almost lossless DVDs/miniDVDs (http://doom9.org/mpg/cce-advanced.htm)

Acreff

30th July 2002, 19:55

Tora pou to ksanaskeftomai, anarotiemai ti stin euxi kanoume.....!!!! Kai eksigoumai:

An kapoios exei idi asxolithei me DVD ripping (i me DVD authoring) einai sigouro oti kserei agglika kai malista kala.

An skopeuei na ksekinisei tora gia proti fora, einai sigouro oti osa guides kai na tou metafrasoume, an den kserei agglika, einai kammenos apo xeri.

Ara, o monadikos logos gia na ftiaksoume ena greek.doom9.org einai gia na dilosoume elliniki parousia (gia tin plaka mas diladi)

Akouo apopseis.... (den thelo na sas apogoiteuso - sorry an to ekana idi !!! )

Filika

Acreff

geocapital

31st July 2002, 00:52

Endiaferousa apopsi... oxi pws de mou perase apo to mualo.

Kai 8a pws kai tiw idees mou.

Katarxin, afou oloi kanoun giati oxi kai emeis.

Episis, nai, isws einai gia tin elliniki parousia. Mallon 8a prepei, genika milwntas, san e8nos, na stamatisoume na apofeugoume ti summetoxi mas, se diafores "die8neis" prospa8eies.

Stin teliki, ta agglika xreiazontai gia na asxoli8eis me otidipote stous upologistes. Auto omws de simainei na apokleisoume ta ellinika apo autous. Oso mporoume as mi ta paratame.

Isws einai nwris, alla eixa kai exw merikes idees parapanw.
Katarxin, 8a itan kalo isws na kanoume ena site pou na min einai apli metafrasi tou parontos, alla 8a mporouse na asxoli8ei genika me to ripping, perissotero sunergazomeno me to paron. 8a mporousame, exontas ws basi auto, na stisoume epanw ena pio oloklirwmeno site, p.x. me upotitlous i o,tidipote allo. Einai mia arxi kai mia eukairia, afou 3ekiname pio eukola, me merikes metafraseis kai mporoume kai elpizw (an exw to xrono kai den ta paratisw stin poreia) na ginei mia selida pou na sunergazetai me to paron kai oxi apli metafrasi tou. Einai nwris, gi'auto den ta e3e8esa auta ta pragmata, alla mias pou te8ike epi tapitos...

Mia deuteri idea 8a itan i metafrasi twn programmatwn sta ellinika, opws exw dei programma (de 8umamai pio) na exei ta menou kai sta ellinika. 8a mporousame na to kunigisoume kai na boi8isoume gia auto.

Isws na eimai polu filodo3os i isws polu en8ousiwdis. Alla, re gamwto, Ellines eimaste. Mporoume, me tin katallili boi8eia, na prwtotupisoume.

Einai mia kali arxi, de nomizete? Asxeta an den proxwrisei ka8olou kai meinei aplws mia metafrasi. Akouw ti gnwmis sas.

Episis, me tin eukairia,
Exw idi oloklirwsei ti selida tvn odigwn guides.htm, smartripper2.htm, virtualdub_procedures.htm kai vobsub.htm.
Auti ti stigmi eimai polu zalismenos (einai 3 ta 3imerwmata) gia na brw tis akribeis dieu8unseis.
Episis, suntoma 8a epikoinwnisw kai me to filo mou pou 8a mporesei mallon na mas dwsei xwro.

End of Briefing

Xairetismata!

Scipio

31st July 2002, 01:34

Hehe... nice to see another project.

Just one hint: If you want our help, it would be wiser to write in English. You can mail each other which guides you want to translate and put them on a website so other translators can see what is currently in the works.

If you've got questions, epere4 and me would certainly help you with technical stuff and problems concerning the organization of the project.

Sincerely,

Horestes

geocapital

31st July 2002, 09:39

Horestes, thank you for the offer.

However, writing in greek is easier for us to communicate and usually it is in greek because we are trying to co-operate and not seeking for help.

Don't worry, help will be asked in english :)

Thanks again,
See you.

REIGN_

1st August 2002, 08:16

Re cis na sas po kati. Prepei na kanoume lista me ayta poy exoume kanei mexri tora kai na mhn spatalame xrono metafrazontas dyo kai treis fores ton idio odhgo.

Ego opos eipa kano to DVD Ripper Comparison.

geocapital

1st August 2002, 09:19

Oriste i lista:

Oloklirwmena:

H selida twn guides.htm (aplws na link gia tous odigous)
Smartripper - Advanced features
VirtualDub Procedures
Vobsub Guide

Exoun 3ekinisei:
DVD Ripper comparison
How to create almost Lossless DVDs/miniDVDs - cceadvanced

An 3exasa kati, i uparxei kati allo pou jekinate, enimerwsete ti lista.
Kalou kakou, kanete ena forward tin yparxousa pros8etwntas i allazontas ta nea stoixeia.

personal

1st August 2002, 14:59

xaireto ta pli8i ton ellinon katarxin :)
distixos den nomizo oti 8a mporousa na voi8iso poli se metafraseis afti ti stigmi (isos meta to kalokairi) alla 8a mporousa na asxoli8o me ton elegxo ton metafraseon, eimai kalos na vrisko la8i (eidika ta la8i ton allon ;)
ean mporo na voi8iso edo eimaste.
cya
personal

epere4

1st August 2002, 17:03

geocapital wrote:
However, writing in greek is easier for us to communicate and usually it is in greek because we are trying to co-operate and not seeking for help.
I agree with Horestes. You should write in English as this is an English forum. Not only to receive help, but to let other people know what you are doing, how your project is going, etc.
Off course you are no obliged to write in English, but we would apreciate it very much.

geocapital

1st August 2002, 18:40

@personal

Otan 8a sikwsoume ti selida me to kalo, mporeis na analabeis ton elegxo tis :)

@epere

Don't worry, when there is something to announce and the progress is going fine, we will let you know.
Right now, we are still in the very beginning. It's a new try and time is valuable. :)

However, if there is a remarkable progress, a preview of the site or sth that you should learn, I'll open a new thread.

And for not letting you disappointed.
I hav ealready translated 3 guides. Two other people have started two other guides, and life goes on ;)
We look forward to showing to you something and the progress we have made, when we have sth to show.

See you guys and, really, I appreciate your interest. :cool:

geocapital

1st August 2002, 18:42

Re paidia, na grafoume sta ellinika i sta agglika?
As poume oti kanoume galop.

geocapital

2nd August 2002, 09:25

Episis einai aparaitito mallon na etoimasoume kati sa glwssari, opou na e3igoume oles tous orous opws tous metafrasame sta Ellinika. Opote an parete kapoia prwtoboulia sti metafrasi, kalo einai na enimerwnete. 8a etoimasw osonoupw mia lista me tous orous pou xrisimopoiisa egw.
p.x. rip = Apospasi apo DVD. :) pws sas fainetai?
8a anebasw ti lista suntoma.
8a einai kalo stous orous autous na exoume koini orologia. Gia na mi mperdeuetai o kosmos. Suntoma 8a 3erw kai gia to xwro sto diktuo.

Xairetismous

Acreff

2nd August 2002, 09:28

May I suggest to leave this thread as is for now (that is, mixed English and Greek). This is the only place where we (from Hellas) can quickly exchange messages for the coordination of the Hellenic team. If there is something, the non Greek-speaking-forum-members should know, it will be posted in english.

May I also suggest to keep this rule in place till we launch an Hellenic forum. From that time on, all messages in this thread should be in english only.

Hope that this proposal will make everyone happy.

Warm regards

Acreff

Doom9

27th August 2002, 21:48

any progress guys?

geocapital

28th August 2002, 00:09

Well, I've done some guides, and I expect to meet a friend who could give me some space on the net.
Unfortunately, I am writing my thesis at this period and there is not much time left for translating.

I hope we will have a test site soon.

augi

4th September 2002, 19:55

I can help you to the translation project. If you are interested, send me an e-mail at augi@mail.ntua.gr

oddyseus

5th September 2002, 08:10

being on this suject since feb 2000 and done more than a 100 vcd svcd miniDVD and authored DVDs before the ifoedit methode I think that I can help too.

send me a PM if u want.

grmaster

24th September 2002, 17:05

Maybe I can help too!!!
If u want my help mail me at:
grmaster@tekken.cc

Ellinas ime ok!

personal

14th November 2002, 13:12

na kleisoume kai ta fota fevgontas.
personal

NiTroGen

28th November 2002, 15:58

Kalhnyxta kai se sena.
Alla, ase ena fws giati fobamai sto skotadi. :(

PS. A re, Elladara, den allazeis me tipota. Sto telos fainetai pws h monh metafrash tou doom9 8a einai ayth: www.doom9.gr (http://systran.otenet.gr/cgi-bin/systran.cgi?partner=OTEnet-en&f=2&lp=en_el&url=http://www.doom9.org/).

geocapital

5th December 2002, 11:45

Kalinuxta kai se sas...

I am about to finish my thesis and then I'll try to get the greek tranlation more seriously.
I've found the place on the net, I just need some time to build the first page, for the beginning, and then the rest.

So long.

Pnms

10th December 2002, 12:32

I don't know, but maybe we (Greeks) could make an irc channel, so that we could communicate easily, and more directly, about all this. I could help too in translating some guides :). Just an idea. I think this would accelerate things.

Pnms

15th December 2002, 00:39

I don't see much participation here. What happend to OUR project the Greek project? Has it frozen? Is there somenone responsible in handing out the work? I think we are a little bit unorganized here. Everyone is saying "I can help too,send me an email" but noone seems to pass out the work that needs to be done, nobody is sending those emails. I insist in making an irc channel where we could communicate better. We would post here every once in a while, about our progress.
Tell me your opinion plz.

In Greek:
De blepo poly simetoxh edo. Ti egine sto project auto? stamatise? einai kaneis ypeuthinos sto na mirazei ti douleia pou prepei na ginei? eimaste poly anorganotoi mou fainetai. Oloi leme oti theloume na boithisoume kai na mas steiloun 1 email, alla kaneis de stelnei auta ta email! Epimeno pos an kanoume ena kanali sto irc tha mporoume na milame poio amesa kai to project tha proxorisei.Tha grafoume edo kai tha enimeronoume gia tin proodo mas, giati theloun kai alloi na mathainoun oti proxorame. Peite kai eseis tin apopsi sas.

Snollygoster

16th December 2002, 04:27

Ki egw mesa gia metafrash. Apla peite mou pio guide thelete na metafrasw... snolly@in.gr

Ante kalo xhmerwma...

SatStorm

16th December 2002, 11:48

Hi, just to post something to our friends from Greece.

Geia se olous.
Paidia, einai basika mi praktiko na metafrastoyn ola sta ellinika. Den yparxei kai logos allwste...
Egw pisteyw oti prepei na metafrastoyn mono kapoia basika epe3igimatika ar8ra kai isws kapoia newbie guides.
Kalo 8a itan kapoios na ekane ena news update ebdomadiaio isws, me ayta poy kanei post o Doom9 stin basiki selida.
Stin praxi, elaxistoi prokeite na diabazoun ta ellinika, oloi osoi asxoli8oun me to hobby mas pera apo ena aplo ripping, 8a asxoli8oun me ta agglika. Genika, den blepw pragmatiko logo ypar3is ellinikou doom9, ektos tis ellinikis parousias se ena idiaitera dimofili site.
Telos pantwn, otan 8a kanw update kapoia apo ta ar8ra mou sto vcdhelp.com, 8a ta grapsw kai sta ellinika kai 8a sas ta steilw. Etoimazw ena ar8ro "TMPGEnc fast explained", ka8ws kai kapoia update gia CVD kai VHS NTSC se PAL. 8a ta kanw post ekei kai 8a ta steilw kai se esas.

Filika
SatStorm

DVD__GR

17th December 2002, 01:15

MAGKES tha sinistousa ena elliniko DVD clan me mailing list kai kana mikro forum an ginetai?ego eimai xania.pos ginetai na organothoume??

StriderGT

17th December 2002, 01:30

Allos enas stin prospathia gia metafrasi an kai opos ipan i proigoumeni den ehi kai poli noima...
Tespa os gordianknot-as tha borousa na metafraso ta antistiha guides (gia divx5)

murdof

19th December 2002, 10:44

geia kai apo emena.

mporw na sthsw mailing list gia na synenooymaste pio grhgora.
egw eimai mesa gia metafrash alla kapoy prepei na exoyme anakoinwsh gia to ti kanei o ka0enas.
proteinw na fiaxtei h mailing list gia na synenoithoyme pio grhgora kai mia selida poy 0a exoyme to status ths ka0e metafrashs wste kapoios poy mpainei sto project na leei sth mailing list oti 0a analabei to tade kommati kai na ananeonetai to site me thn antistoixh plhroforia.

oso gia to ean einai axrhsth h oxi h metafrash 0a proteina ola ta guides na einai STA ellhnika. ayto shmainei oti prwta prepei na kanoyme ellhnikes metafraseis twn programmatwn poy xrhsimopoioyme (opoy einai efikto) kai na fiaxtoyn ta guides me screenshots sta ellhnika pleon.

mh prospa0oyme na skotwsoyme th glwssa mas paidia. as to kanoyme mono kai mono gia ton egwismo mas pleon ka0ws oloi oi alloi perimenoyn ellhniko doom9.
ti 0a poyme pleon se aytoys? oti den exei nohma giati kseroyme oloi agglika?
osoi den endiaferontai as mhn symmetasxoyn sto project. osoi exoyn meraki kai 0elhsh omws lew na to proxwrhsoyme...

DVD__GR

19th December 2002, 22:14

Diskola ta pragmata file..
to mailing list einai gamato.
an mporeis na to stiseis kai na mas peis merika tips
gia na doyme ti tha doume..
gia arxi den kanoume post oloi ta mail mas??

emena einai dvd__gr at hotmail.com

file murdof an kanoun oloi post mail den ti stineis na arxisei kati??

REIGN_

20th December 2002, 16:49

to diko moy einai gkalogeropoulos@yahoo.com endiaferomai na kano doyleia kai pistevo oti tha ta katafero.

epere4

20th December 2002, 16:58

Why not post in English so people from other translation projects can know what is going on? :)

Thanks in advance

Scipio

20th December 2002, 18:35

Originally posted by epere4
Why not post in English so people from other translation projects can know what is going on? :)

Thanks in advance

Hehe.. same wish from me... :)
I receive these forum reply mails, come here and see letters I can't understand... so I leave without any idea what's going on. So I can't help either.

DVD__GR

20th December 2002, 22:26

sorry guys,its easier to talk in ur own language!
We SureLY NEED HELP!!
How could u advise us to work together??
Mailing list??
Anything else??
:confused: :confused:

Scipio

20th December 2002, 22:51

Originally posted by DVD__GR
How could u advise us to work together??
Mailing list??
Anything else??

For coordinating purposes you need a person to do all the work on the website. If you've got a working website and someone keeping it up to date, everything should be a lot easier than mailing around.

So you should find a project leader who creates and administrates the website first - this person should have the ability to organize the project. Actually, epere4 does this for Spanish Doom9 and I am in this position for German Doom9.

>> Anything else
Read my guidelines (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28366)... most important is:
- Create your own doc-overview.htm
- mark the translated guides and those which are in progress with a flag (people don't want to waste their time by translating an already translated guide!)
- Tell your visitors how to participate. (provide an E-Mail address!)

Perhaps you could also collect ICQ/MSN/.. Numbers of co-workers to talk to or use IRC - I have done most of my coordination work through Mail/Website though.

Pnms

21st December 2002, 01:07

I made an irc channel at the GRNet network #Doom9GR. Maybe this will help things. Everybody who wants to help, can enter the channel from time to time or send me a memo (irc nick "BadPixel") so that I give them access. I would appreciate it if the one who is responsible for sending out the work, if there is one, gets in touch with me. My icq is #58175870.I don't know how much is done already. I am not responsible for handing out the work!!! and I don't have the time too. Anyone who disagrees with this action of mine,who finds this a bad idea, say what you want to say! I'm listening.

Ekana ena kanali sto irc to #Doom9GR sto opoio tha mporeite na mpainete osoi thelete na boithisete. Nomizo pos auto tha boithisei ligo tin katastash. Mpainete sto kanali, kyrios ta bradia eimai mesa, etsi oste na doso ta prota access, h steilte mou memo (to nick mou einai "BadPixel"), h email (matpanos@lycos.com), h vreite me sto icq #58175870. Tha epithimousa poly, autos pou einai ypeuthinos gia oloi ti douleia pou ginetai, an yparxei tetoios, na epikoinonhsei mazi mou.Den eimai ego ypeuthinos!! oute mporo na ginw, den exo para poly xrono. An kapoioi to briskoun auto kakh idea, perimeno na akouso ta sxolia tous.

murdof

22nd December 2002, 09:47

The mailing list is up!
I have not added any members.
You should visit:
http://www.nitro.gr/mailman/listinfo/doom9
and subscribe there.

Mailing list is limited only to subscribed members for spam purposes.
The link for the list archives is at:

http://www.nitro.gr/pipermail/doom9/

(if you get bad link it's normal cause it's built every night and it's a brand new list...)

Join the list so we can communicate faster. I can also provide web space for the hellenic doom9 if needed.

DVD__GR

24th December 2002, 01:16

I recommend to have many people the administrative options
on the site which we will build (i wonder if we can handle that!!)
and start with a basic structure which will be so open to get updated
from anyone authorised (ginetai auto??)

DVD__GR

24th December 2002, 01:21

Loipon paidia ante ligo na kounisoume!!!!

@murdof.. Epeigei to hosting.na broume kati sigouro me kamia 50mb to elaxisto xoro.
paidia as doume ligo pou tha ta xosoume ola auta kai meta i metafrasi ine eukoli douleia!!

@geocapital pou ise??ante na kanoume kati.
SIGOURA OLOI DEN EXOUME XRONO..AS AFIEROSOUME 15lepta tin mera kai tha skisoume.!!!

Fotis_Greece

24th December 2002, 03:15

ok i will hep too

murdof

24th December 2002, 12:49

ok so far only 4 people have joined the mailing list.
i suggest that everybody joins the list so we can take care of things.
e.g.
1. who is going to be the project leader to update the pages?
2. where is going to be hosted? Greece or USA? I see that interchefs.com is abroad. I can offer web space in Greece which is going to be faster for the Greek users (that's our audience people)
I get an average of 281ms for interchefs while we can get <100ms for a Greek site on an ISDN line.
3. Where the heck do we get the whole doom9 english site from? I assume we are getting the whole thing and start translating on it.
4. Is there database requirement for the site? I already have mysql setup and can install postgres.
5. I think that a seperate greek forum is totally useless since I assume that the guys can create a greek section in this forum. If not we can consider it.

Please get on the mailing list and start posting so we can have faster coordination.