bootcd
17th July 2002, 09:07
I've been reading through the posts in this forum and realise that people are encoding DVD Rips with DVD2SVCD in 3 to 4 hours. The process takes about 15 hours on my computer. I have just done Moulin Rouge PAL , and the whole process from start to finnish took 17 hours.
I am using pretty standard settings in DVD2SVCD, mainly the default, CCE 2.5, the quality is good but how come its taking so long.
Harware:
P4 1.7
512MB DDR 333 memmory
GForce 4
60GB 7200 HD
Any ideas anyone please?
SiliconSoul
17th July 2002, 09:26
maybe 3-4 hours on a 2 pass vbr with simple resize. THEY have to be talking about video ENCODEing time.
if you are using defaults then bicubic slows down the video encoding... how many passes you do slows down the encoding.. how long the movie is... there are many factors... some make the movie look better... but slow the process down... others speed the process up at the sake of quality...
id rather wait 24 hours for a great looking movie than 3-4 hours for okay-good.
Athlon XP 1700
512 ram
geforce 4 4600
80 gb 7200 hd
too much more to list :P
chainsaw135
17th July 2002, 09:36
@bootcd take a look at this thread. I just posted my personal settings that should yield you a good copy of your dvd http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=154493#post154493
and i agree with siliconsoul said, so take that in to account also.
pepsimaxx
17th July 2002, 10:24
I do a regular movie in 1-2 hours, the entire process on a AMD 1.4Ghz/266Mhz FSB and 512MB DDR-Ram.
I always go for a CBR encoding using CCE 2.50 (VBR takes a way to long) with a bitrate no lower than 2000. This way I get good results and a fast encoding time.
UltimateDBZ
17th July 2002, 21:38
@silicon: That may be your opinion, but everyone is entitled to their own. Pepsimaxx does it the way he prefers, and you the way you prefer, don't get the two mixed together.
chainsaw135
17th July 2002, 21:59
@UltimateDbz I dont think siliconsoul did anything but speak the facts. Other then cbr makes to many disks thats his opinion but the fact is vbr on average for a dvd ripp will make 2 cd's instead of 3 or more that cbr would make which some people dont mind it. I myself have a 3 disk changer but still only make 2 disks no matter how long the movie is..
UltimateDBZ
17th July 2002, 22:13
I too believe it is the truth, in fact it's my opinion as well. I was just defending Pepsimaxx's opinion, is all :)
pepsimaxx
17th July 2002, 22:27
Thanks UltimateDBZ for ur posts on my behalf. :)
I do not agree that SiliconSoul just stated his facts. I qoute "and u get too many CD's!" Please notice the exclamation mark. But never mind.
My post was merely to point out that bootcd could get much faster encoding time if he used CBR. As I believe markrb has mentioned several times CBR encoding is not inferior to VBR encoding at high bitrates, all u can save is space which to some ppl. is important, and to others not.
chainsaw135
17th July 2002, 22:35
@pepsimaxx yeah i totally agree with you, its all preference. Your post so far as i can see is not worse or better then siliconsoul's. As its equal showing two different way for someone to do an encode both ways can be argued equally both ways are important because people have preference and they both have ups and downs about them. I think silicon was just pointing out another way to make dvd's but hey thats just my view of it all.
btw i said he stated an opinion during his post, but most of his statement was fact and opinions have been stated in your posts aswell but the fact is opinions are fine. Just dont let it get out of hand thats all:)
SiliconSoul
18th July 2002, 06:57
@pepsimaxx
The second time i replied was my opinion... not a big deal... you do it your way and ill do it mine :)
the main thing is to help out bootcd and not discuss personal preferences of encoding.
well if you do want to know "OUR" preference of how to get the best enocde you can join the thread in the advanced forum...
and if you want people to know your preference of how to get the best encode start your own thread...
Im sorry if i attacked anyone... i just have a strong opinion of how to get MY best encode... and i should not force that on anyone... and im up to listen to others and learn... thats what this forum is all about...
bootcd
18th July 2002, 19:42
Thanks for all the info... I was also getting a few blocky areas in the films, but that may be down to the cheap discs I was using. I'll stick with the muti pass method, it takes a long time but the results are, on the whole, much better.
The blocking only seems to happen with films done on my computer, if the same method is used on a mate of mine's computer the results are better. Could it be my burner?? YAMAHA CRW2100S Rev: 1.0N SCSI.. 40X16X10... burnt at 4 speed useing CDRWIN 3.9A... just a thought. Anyone got any advice?
chainsaw135
18th July 2002, 22:32
@bootcd If you dont mind doing a little testing. You could do the same movie with the same settings on both your computers. Better yet just do a chapter or 2 that way you can see the results faster. Then when the movie/cue bin file is done being created. Load the movie on both machines with deamon tools or something that will load a cue/bin file. That should tell you if things are equal if not then come back here we can play around a figure out why its not ok.
bootcd
20th July 2002, 22:56
chainsaw135
Same result. When done on my computer the result is OK but blocky in places... when done on my mates computer... perfect.
Heres my AviSynth_script_file.avs...
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,576)
ResampleAudio(44100)
DVD2SVCD.INI...
[Executables]
PVA Executable=
vStrip Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\vStrip\vStrip.exe
DVD2AVI Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe
BeSweet Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe
MadPlay Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MADPlay\madplay.exe
MPEG51 Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MPEG5.1\pub_enc.exe
CCE Executable=C:\PROGRA~1\CUSTOM~1\CINEMA~1\cctsp.exe
VFAPI Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VFAPI\Reader\VFAPIConv-EN.exe
TMPGEnc Executable=
Pulldown Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe
SubMux Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe
bbMPEG Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe
I-Author Executable=
VCDImager Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDImager.exe
VCDXBuild Executable=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe
CDMage Executable=
RunPerCDImage Executable=
RunFinal Executable=
MPG2Dec DLL=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll
InverseTelecine DLL=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\InverseTelecine\Donald Graft\decomb.dll
Subtitle DLL=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll
BMP Loader DLL=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth BMP Loader.dll
SimpleResize DLL=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll
Title Picture=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Change CD Picture=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
[Folders]
PVA Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
DVD2AVI Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
vStrip Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
Audio Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
CCE Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
TMPGEnc Folder=
Pulldown Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
bbMPEG Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
I-Author Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie
Subpictures Folder=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs
[Settings]
XPos=228
YPos=0
FirstRun=0
Resize AVS Position=1
TemporalSmoother AVS Position=2
Sharpen AVS Position=3
UsePVA2SVCD=0
UseDVD2SVCD=1
UseAVI2SVCD=0
UseMPEG1=0
UseMPEG2=1
Convert to Canopus codec=0
Convert to Divx4=0
Use Frameselection=0
New Default Folder=0
DVD2SVCD Level=0
UseDVDRip=0
UsevStrip=0
UseInternalRip=1
Eject DVD=0
iDCT=0
DVD2AVI Pause=0
Luminance Gain=0
Luminance Offset=0
Audio1Downsampling=1
Audio2Downsampling=1
Audio1BitRate=7
Audio2BitRate=7
tooLame Mode=0
Autodetect Azid Gain=1
Folder Structure Source=
Folder Structure Video=
Folder Structure Audio=
Folder Structure Muxed=
Folder Structure Subs=Subs
Intra=8,16,19,22,26,27,29,34,16,16,22,24,27,29,34,37,19,22,26,27,29,34,34,38,22,22,26,27,29,34,37,40,22,26,27,29,32,35,40,48,26,27,29,32,35,40,48,58,26,27,29,34,38,46,56,69,27,29,35,38,46,56,69,83
NonIntra=16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,19,20,21,22,23,24,26,27,20,21,22,23,25,26,27,28,21,22,23,24,26,27,28,30,22,23,24,26,27,28,30,31,23,24,25,27,28,30,31,33
Matrice Preset=
Use deafult Matrice=1
LFEDownmixLR6Ch=-3
LFEDownmixLFE6Ch=0
CenterDownmix6Ch=0
SurroundDownmix6Ch=0
DynamicCompression6Ch=1
StereoDownmixType6Ch=0
RearChannelFiltering6Ch=0
DialogNorm6Ch=0
LFEDownmixLR2Ch=-3
LFEDownmixLFE2Ch=0
CenterDownmix2Ch=-1
SurroundDownmix2Ch=-1
DynamicCompression2Ch=1
StereoDownmixType2Ch=0
RearChannelFiltering2Ch=0
DialogNorm2Ch=0
No Audio Conversion=0
TemporalSmoother Strength=2
TemporalSmoother Radius=1
Use TemporalSmoother=0
Use Sharpen=0
Sharpen Value=0
ResizeMethod=2
Avisynth Bicubic b Value=0
Avisynth Bicubic c Value=0.75
Flip Vertival=0
Add ResampleAudio=1
Resize To=0
Use CCE=1
Use TMPGEnc=0
CCE Safe Mode=0
NoOfpasses=2
CCE Image Quality=17
CCE Anti noise value=2
CCE Anti noise=0
CBR=0
One Pass VBR=0
Multi Pass VBR=1
CCE Field Order=2
Progressive=1
Auto Intra DC=0
DVD Compliant=0
Restrict auto I frame insertion=0
Close all GOPs=0
Intra DC=2
M GOP=3
MN GOP=5
SEQ Header=1
Constrained Parameter Set=1
TMPGEnc Rate Control Mode=2
TMPGEnc Motion search precision=4
TMPGEnc Field Order=2
Frames pr spread=50
Spread=40
OffsetFixed CQ Value=80
Use fixed CQ Value=0
DC component precision=2
Output YUV data as Basic YCbCr not CCIR601=0
Use floating point DCT=1
No motion search for still picture part by half pixel=1
Soften block noise=0
Soften Intra=35
Soften NonIntra=35
TMPGEnc GOP I Pictures=1
TMPGEnc GOP P Pictures=4
TMPGEnc GOP B Pictures=3
TMPGEnc SEQ Headers=1
TMPGEnc Max frames in GOP=0
TMPGEnc Close GOPs=0
TMPGEnc Detect Scene Change=1
Enabled Padding=0
Dont Delete Files=1
Create VAF=1
QFactor=5
Linear quantizer scale=1
Zigzag scanning order=1
Use2Streams=0
Pri1Audio1=28
Pri1Audio2=-1
Pri2Audio1=-1
Pri2Audio2=-1
Sub1=-1
Sub2=-1
Sub3=-1
Sub4=-1
Sub5=-1
Sub6=-1
Sub7=-1
Sub8=-1
Azid Gain Offset=6
SubOutputPalette0=clBlack
SubBlendPalette0=0
SubOutputPalette1=clWhite
SubBlendPalette1=15
SubOutputPalette2=$001E1E1E
SubBlendPalette2=15
SubOutputPalette3=clGray
SubBlendPalette3=15
Rip subtitles=0
Min. Delay. Between Subtitles=100
Resize Subtitles=100
SVCD subtitles=1
CVD subtitles=0
Permanent subtitles=0
PAL Y-Pos=-1
NTSC Y-Pos=-1
bbMPEG MPEG1=0
bbMPEG VCD=0
bbMPEG MPEG2=0
bbMPEG SVCD=1
bbMPEG DVD=0
bbMPEG VBR=1
bbMPEG Pad VCD=0
bbMPEG Write PEC=1
bbMPEG Add Scan Offsets=1
bbMPEG Align Sequence Headers=1
bbMPEG Use Private Stream 2=0
bbMPEG Computed Bitrate=1
bbMPEG TimeStamps=0
bbMPEG Pulldown=2
bbMPEG MuxRate=0
bbMPEG Pack Size=2324
bbMPEG Packets Pack=1
bbMPEG Video Buffer=230
bbMPEG Audio 1 Buffer=4
bbMPEG Audio 2 Buffer=4
bbMPEG videoDelay Adjustment=180
bbMPEG audioDelay Adjustment=180
bbMPEG audio1Delay Adjustment=180
Use MPEGAV=0
MinsHigh1=50
MinsHigh2=76
MinsHigh3=100
MinsHigh4=125
MinsHigh5=163
NumCd1=1
NumCd2=1
NumCd3=2
NumCd4=2
NumCd5=3
NumCd6=3
CDSize 1=740
CDSize 2=800
CDSize 3=740
CDSize 4=800
CDSize 5=740
CDSize 6=800
MaxBitrate=2530
MinBitrate=300
MaxAvg=2230
MinAvg=1600
Adjust Audio Bitrate=1
Use Min. Avg.=0
Force Film=0
Movie Offset=2
CDOverlap=2
UseCDOverlap=1
FixedChapters=0
DVDChapters=1
PBCType=0
Data Preparer=dvd2svcd
Use I-Author=0
Use VCDImager=0
No images=0
Use VCDXBuild=1
Length of Chapters=60
Use TitlePicture=1
Use ChangeCD Picture=1
Use ChangeCD Picture on All=0
Use EntrySVD=0
Save XML=1
Save Movie Info=1
ProcessPriority=0
SmartDeinterlace Mode=2
SmartDeinterlace Treshold=10
SmartDeinterlace Denoise=1
SmartDeinterlace Blend=0
SmartDeinterlace Fast=1
Edit Avisynth Script file=0
Use CDMage=0
RunPerCDImage=0
RunPerCDImage Params=
RunFinal=0
RunFinal Params=
Automatic Shutdown=0
DVD2SVCD_log.txt...
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- 20/07/2002 08:12:15
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.
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- 20/07/2002 08:12:20
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI
Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX
Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_07_1.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_07_2.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_07_3.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_07_4.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_07_5.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.
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- 20/07/2002 08:18:31
- Free on drive C: 47541.51 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.
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- 20/07/2002 08:33:07
- Free on drive C: 47206.36 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.
Audio conversion finished.
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- 20/07/2002 09:13:23
- Free on drive C: 47092.04 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 20/07/2002 09:13:32
- Free on drive C: 47091.07 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 118200964
VideoPAPO: 23962068
ScanOffsetBytes: 218456
SeqAligningBytes: 13884118
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1508819961.73
Seconds: 7288.88
CalcMPEGStream: 1508819961.73
Frames: 182047
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 182047
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 2
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1656
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)
---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,576)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----
Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.800
Video Encoding finished.
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- 20/07/2002 17:25:41
- Free on drive C: 45361.19 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 20/07/2002 17:25:45
- Free on drive C: 45361.13 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 20/07/2002 17:25:49
- Free on drive C: 45361.08 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb
Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3542 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3544
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb
Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.
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- 20/07/2002 17:35:42
- Free on drive C: 43773.58 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3544.320 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3738.044 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.
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- 20/07/2002 17:36:47
- Free on drive C: 43773.57 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 10
CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin
Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 20/07/2002 17:39:15
- Free on drive C: 42967.32 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11
CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin
Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.
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- 20/07/2002 17:41:36
- Free on drive C: 42163.70 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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Any help would be appreciated... Thanks
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