You want to make high quality 1cd rips using XviD.... here are the settings!

[NeVeRLiFt]

Well here it is, the settings I used for my XviD encode.
I took it on myself to do a shoot out. I used Nandub, DivX5.02 Pro and XviD-30062002-1

I have always used Nandub to make great 1cd rips. Never had DivX5 or XviD working good for 1cd rips...
I thought I would make the best possible 1cd rip using each of these, and I did. I browsed the forums and took notes and encoded the same movie with each of them. The movie was Gone in 60sec.

DivX5 was the biggest at 651mb
Nandub was 648mb
XviD was 635mb
This is after cutting the begining and ending credits.
(I dont mind if a movie goes over 700mb as I cut off the credits and all is good, I do usually make it so that even with the credits cut off that its as close to 700mb as it can be)

The XviD rip looks very good even though its the smallest.
I think DivX5 and XviD have less cripness and sharpness(detail) when compared to my Nandub made rips.
At least I proved to myself that you can make a high quality 1cd rip using XviD. I also admit I dont know the DivX5 or XviD settings like I do Nandub so feel free to correct my mistakes are suggest better settings.


Here is the link to my Nandub settings.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29134

Here is the link for the DivX5.02 Pro settings
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29206


Now for my settings that I used to make this 1cd rip using XviD-30062002-1.

***1st pass***

"Global"

Motion search precision - Ultra high
Quantization type - Mpeg
Max I frame interval - 300
Minimum I frame interval - 1
Enable lumi masking


"Quantization"

NA


"Two Pass"

check Discard First Pass
check Hinted ME


"ALt Curve"

Max bitrate - 1500
Max overflow improvement - 60%
Max overflow degradation - 60%




***2nd Pass***

Set desired size usually 600-640000
(depends on the audios size and if you plan on cutting off credits)

"Global"

same as 1st pass


"Quantization"

Minimum I frame quantizer - 2
Max I frame quantizer - 31

Minimum P frame quantizer - 2
Max P frame quantizer - 31


"Two Pass"

I frame boost - 20%
check discard first pass

High bitrate scenes - 25%
Low bitrate scenes - 10%
Bitrate playback delay - 240
check Payback with bias

check Hinted ME


"Alt Curve"

check Use Alternative curve system
Curve Aggression - (medium or low) low seems to be best IMHO
High distance from average - 100%
Low distance from average - 200%

check Enable Automatic minimum relative quality
Strength 50%

check Enable Automatic bonus bias calculation

Max bitrate - 1500
Max overflow improvement - 60%
Max overflow degradation - 60%





Have a nice day!

;)

[Mel Maconoo]

w00t.. thx man.. i'll test it out and see what i get..

[R3g]

Originally posted by NeVeRLiFt
"Global"

Motion search precision - Ultra high
Quantization type - Mpeg
Max I frame interval - 300
Minimum I frame interval - 1
Enable lumi masking

If you go for a one CD rip, you should perhaps consider using h263 quantization type, or at least "modulated" in the second pass. It would lead to a bit more bluriness, but can give better results with some material

"Alt Curve"

check Use Alternative curve system
Curve Aggression - (medium or low) low seems to be best IMHO
High distance from average - 100%
Low distance from average - 200%

check Enable Automatic minimum relative quality
Strength 50%

I think the best aggression setting really depends on the movie, on the amount of motion in it, and on the way the scenes change.
My own settings for high and low distance are opposite to yours (low : 100, high : 200). What I understood is that it is not a very good idea to go over 100% for low distance. But perhaps I did'nt get it right.

Max bitrate - 1500
Max overflow improvement - 60%
Max overflow degradation - 60%

I think that 1500 is low, even for a 1CD rip. By setting this, you might enforce the codec to use high quantizer for very big frames, where it shouldn't have. I usually never go below 4000 for this one.

But it is a great work you did, I'll certainly wil try an encoding with your settings, in order to find the best. I think anyone finding good settings for a particular case could post it, it may help lots of people out there.

[ookzDVD]

@NeVeRLiFt,

Thank you for the info.

I think the hardest part is to make 1-CD rip,
so there will be more tweak for some settings which is very depend
on the movie itself.

But for general 1-CD-rip purpose, I prefer to use the AutoDub's
generic 1-CD profile.

Thank you

[NeVeRLiFt]

I'm still learning with XviD and welcome advice and help with my settings.

Here is some notes I took.... just read over them and thanks to Koepi for these.

(I feel DivX5 and XviD already lose to Nandub when it comes to crispness and sharpness... so I try to avoid that)


*****

I'd recommand modulated quantization type on the 1 cd profile, as it results in a sharper overall impression (The penalty in bytes is really unimportant and you gain more than you loose).

Also aggression set to low gives me usually better results on 1CD encodings.

Just my 2 cents,

regards,
Koepi
****
It makes sense to restrict the IFrames more in a 1CD profile, because the following frames can gain quality from it - it's a matter of taste actually (I set it to max. 4 or 5 in my tests for example - the big quantization of the following pframes is too visible for me. Also the curve treatment compensates too fast for this, the quantization goes to high levels directly after such an IFrame, just to "fall back" to normal values anywhere between 5-15 frames after that)
But for 2pass 1CD I really prefer low over medium/high aggression. (And sometimes it really depends on the movie or the quality you want to achieve - for _my_ taste low works greatest, but other people have other preferences.)

Regards,
Koepi
****
Please read the notes above to tweak this 1cd 2pass encode settings for XviD
;-)

[NeVeRLiFt]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@NeVeRLiFt,

Thank you for the info.

I think the hardest part is to make 1-CD rip,
so there will be more tweak for some settings which is very depend
on the movie itself.

But for general 1-CD-rip purpose, I prefer to use the AutoDub's
generic 1-CD profile.

Thank you


Thanks



And for the people that want the AutoDub settings....


1Cd profil (2pass) :
--------------------
Min I : 2
Max I : 3
Min P : 2
Max P : 12

Search : 6
Quant : H263

HintME

Hight bit : 0
Low bit : 10
delay : 300

Payback Bias

Agression : Medium
Hight D : 150
Low D : 75

Auto Min Qual
Strenght : 50

Bonus bias

[Razorblade2000]

Using real video 9 I just made a 1CD Rip of the movie "13 days" (140 minutes!!!!!!!) containing 2 audio streams!!!!!!!!! Looks quite O.K.

Using Trainingday or D-Tox, I got two very high quality 1CD rips (crispness was perfect, also 2 audio streams + subtitles)
:cool:

[Koke]

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
Using real video 9 I just made a 1CD Rip of the movie "13 days" (140 minutes!!!!!!!) containing 2 audio streams!!!!!!!!! Looks quite O.K.
:cool:

Two proper audios would take cca 200Mb then you have 500 (or more?)
Mb for video that`s 140 mins?! How did you do that? Explain please.
And what is the resolution?

[Koke]

I tested same 50 clips with different
xvid settings. Bitrate was constant (a low one
so I could easily notice bad spots (macroblocks,
edge noise - like one in too compressed jpeg
and clouds on larger monocolor areas).
You can read about settings at
Kokeÿs Xvid Guide (http://www.inet.hr/~dkokeza/xvid/)
You can neglect Vidomi part (if you dislike it - I adore it)
And I changed opinion about XviD reproducing with divx decoder.
Although you`ll have smoothest playback possible, using
ffdshow and leaving fourcc to xvid WILL get you a better picture.
:D

[Marc FD]

@All

Mhh well... :D
I make ONLY 1 CD encodes because even if you've got the quality of a DVD in video and in audio on a 2 CD encode you would have to change your CD in the middle of your movie and this will break the movie story (and worse if it is bad cutted).And if it's for archiving only and you would never see them or if you make big tempfolders on your HDD (or even your RAM ?) in RAID-0 mode ... (2x2x700...2.8Gbytes...)
If you do so, you can directly drop the encoding part and use miniDVD, or simply ripp your DVDs on one of your 180Gbytes HDD... :D

I've not the money nor the use of this big stuff but what i wanted to say is : i make 140 min cd ripps and there is no magic stuff in it :)
If you know how to use your soft/hardware, you don't need to share your magicals-always-perfect-never-crap-universal-XviD-1CD-Settings for several reasons :
1) If you want to achieve the BEST 1CD-rip quality, you'll need a Dual-P4@2.8Ghz,1Gbyte ECC-DDRAM,ect.. :rolleyes: (the so called 10000$-PC) and you will need different version of the DVD (to average them)...
After that, you take the Vidomi 2 Pro special 1CD-rip, click on the GO button and wait 56 hours... and you'll have the best 1CD-encode know by man of .... (here the name of your DVDs)

2) NO. this is not true !! :eek:
You wont get the best quality with a Rippack and simply type all the "better quality" settings in XviD because there is no "better quality settings in XviD : they are all hard-coded :cool:

3) Every movie/video/clip is != from the others : The settings you have found can work good for some movies, but all movies need specifics settings.

4) Worse than that, with 1 movie u could try 3 != settings and get the "best quality" using different methods and it depends of your taste too !

5) XviD settings won't give you the best quality improvements...
I know scientist who have develloped a "video codec"-like method who is able to reach the same quality than a DVD on 1 CD if you have the master source : the only pb is that you can feed only a frame/day to the codec and you need to encode it manually frame by frame ... you could think it is stupid, unusable and so on... but some people are able to take the time to do it if they can have the quality ;)

6) There is a middle between this 2 extremes (1&5) u have to search yourself what fits to you best, but i don't think flooding forums with settings are a solution.
For experienced XviD users, they'll ignore it because know how to make the encodes they like and don't need so to tell them.
For XviD newbies you will make them think it's easy to make HQ 1 CD encodes with XviD and they will mess every encode they will do because they would think it's the "best settings" and will be unable to see they make crap because they have never seen a real good 1 cd-rip made by a good ripper who knows what he is doing...
(Personnaly, i've never seen a good XviD encode (but mine :devil: ))

If you feel concerned by this post, it's because you are.
If you don't feel concerned by this post, it's because you are not.

just some advices for some noobs in this thread (don't feel ashamed, everyone is a noob in something a day ...)

4h in the morning..... i think i should sleep...

Thanks 4 reading.

[NeVeRLiFt]

Dont see you posting any settings to help the n00bs.


You must be one of those people who like hearing themselves talk :rolleyes:

[Koke]

@MarcFD
I have feeling that people arround here are just trying to share
their experience of XviD encoding. I find it interesting
to read other`s setings and comments about it and share mine too.
And that`s all. You could just share your settings for your
1 CD rip and I don`t think that someone would think that
you`re playing smart. Not a big deal.........

[Stabmaster-Arson]

If the n00bs wnt to just load the profile, and never tweak it out or try other methods, all the power to them. If they dont have the neergy to try other methods or research how the settings to tweak up specific movies, then that leaves more intelligence and more dedicated people posting.

And no one said this was a magicals-always-perfect-never-crap-universal-XviD-1CD-Settings, however, it is good for a n00b to grab an experioenced persons' profile that worked for them on at least oe movie, then tweak it fropm there.

[Didée]

Originally posted by Marc FD
@All

I make ONLY 1 CD encodes because even if you've got the quality of a DVD in video and in audio on a 2 CD encode you would have to change your CD in the middle of your movie and this will break the movie story (and worse if it is bad cutted).

About this argument, I am laughing loud since I startet with this all ...

Well, I do have:
1.) a DVD-drive
2.) a CD-Burner
3.) a playlist-capable player

So far, this is not unusual, is it?
If I use all three together, I have to do *nothing* to jump from CD1 to CD2. Okay, there is a jerk of < 1sec in the middle, but this is easier to bear than 2 hours of reduced quality!!

[/endofflaming]
This might sound a little harsh, but the given argument for 1CD-rips is so ridiculous, really.

And don´t get me wrong - meself is coming more and more over to the 1CD - side ;)

[kilg0r3]

@razorblade

which resolution, prefiltering?
which player from real do you use?

@didee

;) there are even rumors of people copying the files to their hd before playing them! i do however not know if this is really possible. actually i think its not; it simply cannot BE! sounds kind of perverse what do you think ;)

@ when posting settings, please think about the format of your posts. in another thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29065) i scratched up a little table which might help to reduce the height of the post. in order to make it more readable, you might want to enter 'def' for every value that left at default. remember you need to set the code tag to have the forum use fixed fonts.

[Marc FD]

@ Dividee
for 2 CD ripps, with DVD-drive / CD-rec and i'm able to play them without any pb too . but i don't like the "tweaking" needed and 2 CD/movie == too much CDs to store :D
It's just a matter of choice and if you want to keep the .ac3 files you don't have really the choice, but when i see 75 min 2 CD ripps,(not on this thread) i think some people should try 1 CD too :)

@All

Try differents settings, improve more and even more your encoding method and if you think some users could be interessed by it, create an another AutoDub/GKnot/Vidomi...I'm not against "sharing your settings" but you will gain nothing : if u don't trust your settings, use rippacks :rolleyes:

But making a XviD setting database could be a great idea :) : create a web server with a database dedicated to XviD settings and talk of it on a forum, ok, but don't throw your everydays encodes settings to the wind...

At least, use a formated text like kilgor showed : things would be more readable and usable. (because if i wanted to use your settings, i'd prefer save them on a notepad before)

(If you want good settings and tweak them yourself, read the Alt-Curve thread, The AutoDdub thread, the XviD Faq, Koepi's XviD help, then learn how to use avisynth, read the avs FAQ, ect... you will see tons of settings shared by experienced users who have already thinked at it :cool: )

PS : When i first used XviD, i mus say i was a little lost and was tempted to ask for "good settings" but a day i used my best avs-filter chain and make 3 encodes : One with my best XviD settings, the second with an another guy's settings and the last with the default settings of XviD : nobody could say me what was the best : i.e. curve compression : you have the choice between few block but during long time or much blocks during a short time : It's a CHOICE. The XviD settings are CHOICES. See Koepi's advices in Neverfilt's previous post.

don't get angry , thx ;)

[Razorblade2000]

@Koke What do you consider to be proper???? MP3 is M U C H worse than real audio!!!! It is great!! (Even at 32kbps it still sounds acceptable! YOu can also use surround at 48kbps)

@kilg0r3 640*x (depends on movie aspect ratio)
I use the realone player
Prefiltering? Maybe... I left the standards...

[vorbis]

Modualted quantizers does make a difference. Also lowering the resolution for a 1 cd rip is quite handy. I've seen a load of 1 cd rips where the ripper felt compelled to keep it at 640. Thjey're crap !! I've done plenty at 576 and even 544 and they all look pretty decent. For 1 cd with xvid, I think you could go as low as 512 to increase quality. I have a 19 inch monitor and haven't noticed problems playing them in full screen.

[kilg0r3]

For 1 cd with xvid, I think you could go as low as 512 to increase quality.

yes you can. I tried that out with password swordfish (yawn!) on my 22" phillips tv set, and, due to the low resolution of tv screens the picture looks no different from the dvd. ever tried to extend your desktop on a tv screen at a resolution of only 640*480? it looks horrible and you usually still have difficulty to read the text. the tv image is crap, and, if you watch your movies on tv you can exploit this fact.

anybody know what is the usual hardware resolution of a tv set?

[Marc FD]

what do you mean by "usual hardware resolution"
PAL 768x576 and NTSC 640x480 for example ??

(oups i totaly forgot to say that using 5xx horz. resolution is the best way to make very very good 1CD encodes (i thinked everyone know it ..) sorry ;) )

With a 488x276 resolution(and a good filter-chain), you can make 180 min 1CD ripps (on low-action movies) who are really decent (with your eyes you couldn't say if you're playing a DVD or XviD on still scenes.)

A thing few know is that the VHS resolution is ???x200 !!!(the line bandwith is too small to say what the horz. resolution)
S-VHS = 520x388 and betamax is something close to S-VHS (around 500 vertical resolution)

EDIT : (i'm not 100% sure : see the VHS/S-VHS/Betamax specs if you want the real resolution (but the one i gave is what i could remind, it should be ok.)


I don't know in NTSC, but that the hardware resolutions i know in the PAL world.

The difficulty in resizing is to balance your filter chain to avoid too much sharp destruction, but using a low resolution the XviD codec would use only very low quantizers (2&3, 4 max) and you will never see a macroblock (not tons of..) so you will be able to tweak you video (ie using ffdshow unsharp-mask feature) and it will gives you very good results.

Something else : For 1 CD rips always reduce your audio to the minimum acceptable VBR quality (i have good results with lame VBR q9 and psy. experimental features)
If you don't need a perfect sound but want the best image, you could use MPEG2 layer3 - MPEG2.5 layer3 audio codecs too (in 22kz) :
You will have a distorded sound (not much if you use the right filters), but if it's for an action movie, the quality you will gain on video will give you the best overall effect
(i think audio should never be bigger than 1/8 of a 1CD rip = 84 megs on a 700 Mbytes CD)

If you want reallythe best quality possible on 1 CD, there is only ONE way : (OGG Vorbis + XviD) * OGM = XCD :cool: (this will give you the best quality possible but it's very hard to use :(

Okay s.o. on this thread said i didn't give any advices ?? here, you can see them now :D

Just my 2 cents (and remind it's a matter of taste !!)
thx

[Teegedeck]

Operation Swordfish is a movie that compresses very, very well - I kept the anamorphous resolution for 2 CDs...

Following this discussion, it's very nice to see how you're trying to find optimized settings - it reminds me of the time when we had a forum for exchanging Nandub-profiles... In the end we might come to the conclusion that all we have to do is to use settings that produce a float +/- 2 quants around the average quantizer in order to prevent problems and maybe we'll have a way to let the highest quantized frames be B-frames so that the following P-frames don't get hurt by stronger quantization. Apart from NOT using high aggression, it seems that the choice of an adequate resolution and (only if neccessary) noise-filter still is more important than anything you do in the XviD setup for a decent 1-CD-encoding.
[edited out a stupid mistake]

[kilg0r3]

@Marc FD

i know that the pal standard supports the 756x576 res but i doubt that common tv sets can really make use of a resolution that high, which is why you can clearly see the differnce between dvd on a decent computer monitor but you cannot on a tv set.

for the sound bitrate: i exclusively use ogg vorbis and hence can go for about 86kbps without problems; stereo only and without lfe downmix.

[NeVeRLiFt]

http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/interlace.htm

Near the bottom it has some info about TV resolutions and VHS resolutions, etc. TV = 352x480 thats to get both lines and all the info. (this ruff estimate I would say)

Originally posted by Marc FD
what do you mean by "usual hardware resolution"
PAL 768x576 and NTSC 640x480 for example ??

[Marc FD]

@Teegedeck
I Totaly agree.
It's exactly what i said :cool:

[Teegedeck]

It would seem so. ^_^

[Hanty]

"You want to make high quality 1cd rips using XviD.... here are the settings! "

Christ! That topic enforces one of the most annoying constantly false misconceptions when it comes to ripping. That there is a certain setting that will be a magic bullet, making all your encodes great.

[kilg0r3]

could everybody just stop gibbering about sense or nonsense of these threads.

here are some people who would just like to talk about a nice hobby of theirs. some other people, however, respond in a way as if we were discussing politics or the fate of the earth. btw, dvdripping is a nonsensical activity per se. it is stupid, useless and unproductive, but, it is fun; somehow. just remember that when you read through these fora. it will make it much easier to just skip threads that you think are useless instead of poluting them.

oh god, i am my own contradiction :D

there is no need to go :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
just be :) :cool: :) :cool: :) :cool: :) :cool: :)

[MoonWalker]

@Marc FD

What is your filter chain at 1CD rip..I am currently testing what Acaila is using...

MoonWalker

[Marc FD]

Hi moon!
"Long time no see..."
I've said before it's a matter of taste : for your avs chain-filter it's the same. I personnaly use tons of different avs-settings, but i usually need 3-5 filters max for a DVD encode.
What i can recommend for 1 CD ripps :
- Always IVTC/deinterlace (but i don't think it's really an advice because you can't make a good intelaced encode. Even if you do something correct you'll never be able to deinterlace it after because you need the max amount of data to use a deinterlacer without BIG quality loss.
- Always reduce the noise !
- Use filters who increases compressibility without too much
quality loss (easier to say than to do..) like tempsoften2,PicFix,SmoothHIQ,ect...
- Don't chain to much filters : you will only waste your time and gain nothing in quality : faster is better ! (but not always :) )
- Choose the good resolution : It's the best way to make really good encodes : It's better to reduce the resolution than to use more filters, because every filter you use is discarding data (even sharp filters)
- Test, test and test even more : it's the best way to have a (almost) perfect result :)
- If you want to encode anime the best way possible, wait before and begin by movie encoding : some guys think a movie is harder to encode than an anime. theoricaly they're right, but because anime is an artificial created video content, the codecs aren't tuned for it nor able to cope "the best way" with it. Encoding an anime is easy. Make a really good anime encode is really HARD ! (and when i see all the shit some friend with DSL dl on the net, i see some guys should test & tweak a little before making bad encodes.)

I know i say pretty basic things, but the right things are good to be repeated (right,kilg0r3? :) )

[Teegedeck]

Marc FD's post makes me want to cite the most flattering comment I ever received (from Nando): "I globally agree." ;)

Although I don't have a lot of experience with anime; most of the time I encode 'life-action' movies without any filtering.

[NeVeRLiFt]

@Marc FD

I like that post! Its full of very good info and first rippers or people looking to make a 1cd rip need to know this.

Good post dude and I would like to think this thread will help people to make better 1cd rips :D

[Acaila]

MoonWalker wrote:
What is your filter chain at 1CD rip..I am currently testing what Acaila is using...The filter chain you are referring to was not meant to make the movie more compressable (it increases only by about 2-5% or so), just to reduce the noise as much as possible.

[MoonWalker]

Originally posted by Acaila
The filter chain you are referring to was not meant to make the movie more compressable (it increases only by about 2-5% or so), just to reduce the noise as much as possible.

Hi Acaila :)

I wasn't talking about increasing the compressibility but getting better quality. I always use 2CD rips(expept some rare cases) beacause I use AC3 sound(I have a DD5.1 System :p )...I just asked what was the filter chain....

MoonWalker

[kilg0r3]

the thread where these settings are posted is called "xvid and filters" oslt. :)

[Marc FD]

I think your avisynth filter chain and of course, the quality of your source (for VHS encodes) is more important than the XviD settings ...
But it's what i saw by experiance ;)

If s.o. want to try to tweak the Alt-CC setings with a better feedback than a PSNR, take a look on Dbg/Alt-Dbg :cool:
( a little ad. for my prog, costs nothing :D )

[HongKongFu]

maybe someone wants to make 2 DVX Profiles (XviD first and second pass) and send me, I would like to include them into the next release

cu fu aka Dolemite

[serbersan]

About the audio....

Yes it's important to reduce the size of the audio file, but I think the diference between a 600 - 61X Mb isn't really visible but you could go with a better audio (but yes it depends of the kind of audio of the movie)

But Why go below 112 kbps generally in a movie?


I doubt you will gain video quality, and vorbis with 112 or more has very good quality for movie.

I usually enconde at 128kbs, no more for 1CD except the movie is very compressible.

[Marc FD]

Personnaly, if you're going to make a _hard_ 1CD rip like 140 min,
i will shrink the audio at 70-80 Mbytes (in fact i've tuned lame and i use the vbr q9 mode + psy enh.) so lame make me mp3 files who are about 30-35 Mbytes per hour. (equivalent to 64 kbps CBR)
But the quality is only 10% lower than 112 kbps cbr :)

EDIT : I'm not a Hifi professionnal nor a great musician so sound need only to be close enough to seems natural when i see my movie...

MPEG-4 codecs can handle 0.20 bpp so you have 2 choices if you get below this value : increase the bitrate and/or lower the size.
I use both because XviD use each bit you give him (= significative image improvements).

Of course all this only applies for 100+ min 1CD encodes
for shorter lenghts, it's very easy and whatever you do, if you keep things close to the default settings, you have _always_ a very good result :)
Tweaking short movies is a time waste ;)

[BiaTch 5.0]

i will shrink the audio at 70-80 Mbytes (in fact i've tuned lame and i use the vbr q9 mode + psy enh.) so lame make me mp3 files who are about 30-35 Mbytes per hour. (equivalent to 64 kbps CBR)

Your a Lame coder so i'm sure you know audio coding but I know that no matter how much you tune mp3 you can NEVER get even close to AAC or OGG quality at low bitrates like that CBR or VBR.

BTW I'm quite sure that with Lame at low bitrates it's better to use ABR than VBR.

[Marc FD]

lame coder != LAME coder !!
lame code == bad coder :D

you misunderstood me there.
And in fact i agree with you : ogg vorbis is outstanding.
But the problem is ogm is a too alien format for my friends.
I hope it would be a day possible to use ogg as easy as lame vbr

PS : I think i will change "lame coder" : everyone could think i'm one of the coders of lame (but i'm just not very _good_ :D )

[m3taPT]

Originally posted by Marc FD
@All

just some advices for some noobs in this thread (don't feel ashamed, everyone is a noob in something a day ...)


Indeed. You're a big noob regarding the english language (or the feeble attempt at it, in this case).

Well, dont feel ashamed. I recommend dict.org as your startup page.

[-h]

@m3taPT:

Eh?

-h

[serbersan]

Maybe my post it's too stupid but this is my little problem.

The choice of resolution it's very important to do a high quality rip 1 or 2CD but what about a movie that is very compressible? I've read many times that it has no sense in go above 640x...

I've done FROM HELL, 1CD xvid rip, at 640x256 and 2 audio tracks and the quality is superb, XviD quality = 80% and the movie is over 1:51 min (without credits). I've done another trial with this movie but at full resolution 720x... in 2CD the quality was almost, almost (believe me) the same of the dvd, and better than the 1CD rip.

Anyone think that in cases like this it's interesting to resize to 672x... or more without use full resolution for 1 or 2CD rip?

I don't understand why if relative quality is over 70 % it has no sense to raise the resolution when you arrive to 640x... I'm really wasting space without increasing the quality?? (in the From Hell rip I haven't wasted space although)

Thanks for your time and sorry for the inconvenience

[Acaila]

I don't know where you've read that, but going over 640 when you get high enough quality is no waste of space. However 720 is usually not a really accurate Aspect Ratio, 704 would be better on most movies. Just make sure you get at least 70% after you've increased the resolution to maintain the higher quality.

Since you already get over 70% for a 1-CD version, I wouldn't make it a 2-CD movie if I were you. The picture quality won't get much better, the only plus will be that you can put in the original AC3 audio stream.

[JasonFly]

Why would 704*xxx would be better than 720*xxx?

[Ivion]

Originally posted by m3taPT


Indeed. You're a big noob regarding the english language (or the feeble attempt at it, in this case).

Well, dont feel ashamed. I recommend dict.org as your startup page.

Can't you see he was just making 'fun'? He wasn't serious. :D
You shouldn't take it so serious, most of the things said on these fora wich are not related to the subject are usually not serious. ;) :p