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Midnight Tboy
11th July 2002, 23:42
Hey there.


I've been using DVD2SVCD for some time now and think I'm pretty comfortable with most of the settings etc now, and altogether I must have used it to rip about 50dvds give or take.

One thing I've never tried doing with it though, is to do the subtitles as an extra on the disc, so I'm a bit unsure as to how to go about making them and which option is the best.

I used to make the rips as SVCD 2 or 3pass vbr,48khz,sometimes 2 audio tracks, and will put 50-60minutes per 80minute cd at most, but now I've recently started doing them in similar settings but as CVD which seems to work great.

Firstly, for ripping the subtitles, DVD2SVCD gives the option for SVCD subtitles, or CVD subtitles.....what actually is the difference? just lower resolution for the cvd ones?

In which case, if I was making an SVCD would I have to choose SVCD subtitles, and CVD subs for a CVD movie or can they be mixed?

Also, do the subtitle tracks take up much space on the overall cd so should I take into account the subtitle space and make the cd playtime length significantly smaller to allow for the subs?

Lastly, will these subs work no problem too for those discs that have novelty features on their subs, such as the silhouettes talking in the audio commentary subtitle track for ghostbusters, as these are my main reasons for wanting to use them, especially for the new monty python & the holy grail movie with its different tracks.

many thanks for your help,
Tuck

mrbass
12th July 2002, 01:59
use whichever one (if any) work with your standalone dvd player. See DVD2SVCD Quick Guide and FAQ or vcdhelp.com dvd compatibility list

chainsaw135
12th July 2002, 02:02
Well since no one has responded, i'll try to answer some of your questions. Bare with me as i dont do subs myself. What i understand of them tho is basically which one does your dvd player handle? or can it handle both? thats the big question you want to answer, go to "vcdhelp.com" and look for your dvd player and that should answer the question on which 2 use. If your dvd player plays both subs then i'm not sure which is better or why. Does subtitles take up space yes but very very little space.


mrbass must of been typing as you responded:)

rixkix
12th July 2002, 05:11
CVD subtitles tend to be compatible with a greater majority of DVD players, especially the ones manufactured in China.

Midnight Tboy
12th July 2002, 07:04
ok thanks....


so I know that form checking VCDhelp my player is meant to do both, but as most compatability seems to be in CVD subtitles I'll do it as them in case I have to replace dvd in future.

So how much space on a cd does the subtitle track tend to take up then, does it take up only a tiny amount so it wont affect too much the amount I want to fit on each cd?

And lastly, do those subtitles that use pictures, such as the Ghostbusters or Monty Python Holy Grail dvd subtitles rip and work ok if anyone has ever tested them??

cheers for the help you've already given me

coolejo
12th July 2002, 22:12
About compatibility:

You could also actually verify whether your player supports CVD and/or SVCD subtitles. Download one or more of the test samples on [/URL] and/or on [URL=http://www.planete-numerique.com/Pages/Svcd/Svcdtest.htm] (http://www.vcdhelp.com/svcd.htm). Burn them on a cdrw and you can tell yourself whether and what type of subtitles are supported. The user reports on vcdhelp are sometimes contradictory and confusing, especially when they talk about svcd subtitles (sometimes they mean subtitles when playing svcd, sometimes svcd style (or Philips) subtitles). Like this you can avoid a lot of frustation and waste of time.

About resolution:

It's not a matter of different resolutions, but of different standards. CVD and SVCD differ in resolution, not CVD style and SVCD style subtitles.

About mixing:

You can use CVD and SVCD style subtitles on SVCD. If your player supports it, you can even mix them on one disk (but you can not use dvd2svcd for this). I'm not sure about CVD disks. But of course: use what your player supports.
coolejo

About size:

They are not to big. Let dvd2svcd take care of this. Up to now I didn't experience any problems with this.

coolejo