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Amerzone
4th July 2002, 23:12
First of all, a warning: I'm a n00b in the SVCD stuff, although I've read quite a lot and I've so far done many DivX. This was my very first attempt to make a svcd. The movie is Reservoir Dogs, it's a greek production (only greek subtitles in the DVD).

I guess I must first quote the dvd2svcd log file:

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- 03/07/2002 23:50:37
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 03/07/2002 23:50:39
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found (not in ifo file): StreamID: 0x22 Language: Unknown
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Unspecified
Subtitle found (not in ifo file): StreamID: 0x21 Language: Unknown
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Unspecified

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
1 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 04/07/2002 00:07:11
- Free on drive H: 7521.82 mb
- Free on drive I: 6557.59 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.vob
- M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.vob
- M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.vob
- M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.vob

Ripping: M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.vob
Ripping: M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.vob
Ripping: M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.vob
Ripping: M:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 5359

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- 04/07/2002 00:19:36
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[I:\Svcd\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[H:\VTS_03_1.vob,H:\VTS_03_2.vob,H:\VTS_03_3.vob,H:\VTS_03_4.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 04/07/2002 00:23:05
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 6557.19 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: Unspecified Num. of subs: 999

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 04/07/2002 00:29:34
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 6540.46 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: I:\Svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 04/07/2002 00:35:00
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 6410.00 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: I:\Svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "I:\Svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "I:\SVCD\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "I:\SVCD\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L 0db -c normal -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of I:\Svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 04/07/2002 00:48:28
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 6409.99 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\cover1.jpg
Converting: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 04/07/2002 00:48:36
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 6408.71 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 138817168
VideoPAPO: 23642712
ScanOffsetBytes: 170996
SeqAligningBytes: 10867771
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 7046368
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1484540552.40
Seconds: 5706.88
CalcMPEGStream: 1484540552.40
Frames: 142497
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 791.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 142497
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2081
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\DIGITA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\DIGITA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.DLL")
mpeg2source("I:\SVCD\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,432)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.940
Video Encoding finished.

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- 04/07/2002 09:18:21
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 4959.93 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 04/07/2002 09:18:29
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 4959.88 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 04/07/2002 09:18:32
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 4959.84 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 791 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2927 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2929
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 791 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 04/07/2002 09:29:53
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 3381.07 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2929.416 seconds I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2770.560 seconds I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2929
Length of I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2770
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- 04/07/2002 09:31:06
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 3380.31 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Multiplexing SVCD Subtitles
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Muxing Unspecified subtitles, CD 1
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" -s0 "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg" "I:\Svcd\Subs\--1-1.sub" "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed00.mpg"
Muxing Unspecified subtitles, CD 2
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" -s0 "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg" "I:\Svcd\Subs\--1-2.sub" "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed01.mpg"
Muxing subtitles finished
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- 04/07/2002 09:36:09
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 1794.35 mb
- Free on drive J: 7616.32 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 9

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "J:\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 04/07/2002 09:38:46
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 2585.02 mb
- Free on drive J: 6809.79 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 12

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "J:\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 04/07/2002 09:41:19
- Free on drive H: 3627.74 mb
- Free on drive I: 3373.11 mb
- Free on drive J: 6007.84 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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I burned the 2 discs with Nero / Daemon Tools, as described in the faq, and the svcd plays fine in both my standalone Pioneer DV-535 and in my PC with WinDVD 4 Plus. Chapters work great. The only problem I have is that I get no subtitles in my Pioneer :(

In the Subtitles tab of d2s, I had chosen Rip Subtitles (SVCD), Subtitles Lang 1 Greek, Std Y-pos PAL -1, min. between subs 100ms, and I did not touch any of the colors in the palette. After the ripping, d2s displayed a selection window: unfortunately I don't quite remember what I did exactly in this window; as far as I can tell, the first subtitle stream, Greek, was empty in the right part of the window, so I chose deselect. Below that, there were two more subtitles (called unspecified) with greek letters looking ok at the right. I chose one of them and continued.

By the way, in my subs folder there are hundreds of bmp files (white letters with black background), two .sub and two .txt files.

I would really appreciate any help, and please forgive my ignorance!
pepsimaxx
4th July 2002, 23:33
In order for subtitles to be displayed on your stand-alone DVD-player u have to choose permanent subtitles in the "subtitles" pane in DVD2SVCD.

Pioneer does not support selectable subtitles as I believe is covered in the Q&A which is mandatory reading material. Please read them carefully b4 asking a question. Check out http://www.vcdhelp.com to find more details about what ur stand-alone DVD-player can handle.

I quote:

Q16: I have encoded a movie with subtitles, but no subtitles are shown when I play the movie. Why?
A: The subtitles only work on Standalone DVD Players that supports SVCD and/or CVD - aka China Video Disc - Subtitles. As of now there are no Software players that supports SVCD/CVD Subtitles. An option is to use "permanent subtitles".
Amerzone
5th July 2002, 00:56
Thanks a lot for your quick and prompt reply. I checked the compatibility list at www.vcdhelp.com and, indeed, the selectable subs are not supported by the Pioneer DV-535. The funny thing is that I had, in fact, already read the Q&A, but it seems that I had mis-interpreted the section talking about the compatible players. Please let me quote from there:

DVD players that play SVCDs on CD-R Confirmed by DVD2SVCD forum members.
(S)=SVCD subtitles, (C)=CVD subtitles, (SC)=Both SVCD & CVD subtitles

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Pioneer DV-333, DV-341, DV-343, DV-344, DV-434, DV-444, DV-525, DV-C503, DV-535

I now understand that the meaning is that Pioneer models can play SVCD's, but they do not support selectable subs (since there is no S, C, SC mark). My apologies for the confusion, I should have noticed it from the very beginning... :mad:

May I ask another question: I guess there should be a way to re-position the permanent subs, by tweaking the Y-pos, so that the subs do not fall on the frame (see the capture here (http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/harryfou/cap001.jpg)) Could you recommend any values I should try, or I have to rely on the dvd2svcd preview window before ripping? My TV set is 4:3.
mrbass
5th July 2002, 06:44
-1 is the original subtitle position...sometimes I'll screw around with it. Yes you can rely on the preview window. It's accurate.
dvd2svcd
5th July 2002, 07:13
Originally posted by Amerzone May I ask another question: I guess there should be a way to re-position the permanent subs, by tweaking the Y-pos, so that the subs do not fall on the frame (see the capture here (http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/harryfou/cap001.jpg)) Could you recommend any values I should try, or I have to rely on the dvd2svcd preview window before ripping? My TV set is 4:3. [/B]The best way is to use the preview option, in there you can see exactly where the subs will be placed if you use a value > 0
Amerzone
6th July 2002, 13:33
Thanks a lot for your answers. I re-encoded with permanent subs this time and I managed, indeed, to place them out of the movie. Btw, d2s crashed at the bbMPEG mux step

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- 06/07/2002 12:51:14
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 4779.07 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
bbMPEG failed. Exitcode: 4294967295
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but I was able to recover and everything works fine at the end! :)

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- 06/07/2002 13:54:05
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 06/07/2002 13:54:18
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 4779.07 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Muxing and Cutting
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- 06/07/2002 13:54:20
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 4779.06 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 06/07/2002 13:54:24
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 4779.03 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 06/07/2002 13:54:28
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 4778.99 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2920 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2922
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 06/07/2002 14:06:05
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 3193.77 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2922.816 seconds I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2777.760 seconds I:\Svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 06/07/2002 14:07:21
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 3193.76 mb
- Free on drive J: 6008.75 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 9

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "J:\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 06/07/2002 14:10:02
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 3193.76 mb
- Free on drive J: 5202.44 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 12

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Digital Media\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="J:\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "J:\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 06/07/2002 14:12:42
- Free on drive H: 3627.79 mb
- Free on drive I: 3193.76 mb
- Free on drive J: 4401.17 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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Being my first try with svcd, all I have to say is that I am really impressed by the "easy power" of d2s and the quality given by CCE. Oh, not to forget, I love the imdb feature :p