Proper way to extract audio tracks from a CD.

[1loser]

Is it wrong to just extract the tracks from an audio CD to my hard drive with Isobuster and than use lame to convert them to a mp3? Are the tracks digital and when I use Isobuster do they stay digital?

There are many options that confuse me like new routine, old routine, old and new merge. Which do I use?

Which of these would be a better choice.
"C:\lame\lame.exe" --abr 160 -b 112 -B 320
"C:\lame\lame.exe" -v --vbr-mtrh -V 4 -b 112 -B 320

Where can I find out what these terms mean or refer to?
--alt-preset standard -Y
--alt-preset standard -b 80
--alt-preset standard -Y -b 80
--alt-preset 140

I tried a program called CDex (http://www.cdex.n3.net/) and it works pretty good but is it really necessary to use a program like that to get good results?

Thanks for any help you can give me. As you can tell I don't know the first thing about extracting audio from CD's.

[JReiginsei]

CDex and EAC are the only cd rippers worth using if you care about the quality of your rips. For information on lame command lines go to www.hydrogenaudio.org and look in the message forum. They have a sticky post on the command lines.

[1loser]

Originally posted by JReiginsei
CDex and EAC are the only cd rippers worth using if you care about the quality of your rips. For information on lame command lines go to www.hydrogenaudio.org and look in the message forum. They have a sticky post on the command lines. Thx for the info, I've been there before. I'm looking for some simple answers but I didn't find any.

Are these the sticky posts you are referring to?

sticky post 1 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=260)

sticky post 2 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=551)

[cmyden]

Use EAC to rip, with LAME 3.92 to encode.

Use the following commandline with LAME:

--alt-preset standard

chris

[diji1]

hi 1loser - as well, you might like to have a look at this guide to eac -> http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm .... eac has had some additional features added to it since that guide were written but it should get you started. ignore the guides recommended settings for lame compression, use one of the --alt-presets instead.

[Septimus]

The fact that people now trust EAC and other such programs is a serious problem.

The internet is full of Mp3 ripped with EAC that contain blips pops and other ripping artifacts

There is only one correct way to rip a CD.

If you rip the track twice, it is virtually impossble that the error produced in one or both of the rips will be the same.

So - use any program you like to rip the track, I use the commandline CDCLIP.exe, rip the track twice.

Carry out a binary comparison of the two tracks, if they don't match, then dump them both and rip again until they do. Reduce speed if necessary

Of course all of this is automatated via a batch script

I'm lucky to have 4 DAE capable drives at my disposal - its not always the most expensive (plextor) that produce the best rips - it varys on the condition of the CD Disc.

[Didée]

Septimus,

when using EAC correctly, it does exactly that.

Reading at least 2 times, hereby by-passing drive's buffer, comparing, and then either going on or reading again.

Of course, if you use EAC in "burst mode", there is danger of getting the usual sh*t.
People are dumb, that's nothing new.
It is no problem at all to produce sh*tty pictures even with Paint Shop Pro. It doesn't help to use good software - it must be used correctly.

With all the rips I´ve done with EAC, I did not have one single pop or glitch. That's for sure.

Blame all the stupid users, that's okay.
But please don't blame good software.

Just my 2 cents

[theReal]

The internet is full of Mp3 ripped with EAC that contain blips pops and other ripping artifacts

The internet is full of mp3 ripped with other progs than EAC and encoded to 128kbit full stereo with Xing encoder...

EAC configured correctly with my Plextor Ultraplex 32TS CDRom makes perfect rips from every CD.
It reads at least twice and in case of a mismatch reads up to 5 error correction passes until the information matches.
All other progs are reading in burst mode only.

[Tux]

Hi.

I made good experience with the audiograbber. I purchased the 1.81 to get the full function without loosing my nerves.... :)
But with some older CD drives are some problems possible. Normaly audiograbbe slow down the drive to copy the data without speed problems in burst mode. With my "old" Ultraplex40 this is not working. My new Toshiba DVD works fine. If you get trouble you can choose some other transfer modes. But they are all slower.
Audiograbber calculates a checksum for every file. If you get speed problems (or you think so) you can rip the CD twice. If the checksum is identical, the rip should be correct.
Additional, audiograbber is able zu rip into the RAM. So it works faster and your HD will not fragmented or something.
At least, audiograbber makes IMHO good MP3 files while using the lame 3.91 codec. I prefer VBR with high quality stereo mode. The files are a little bigger like 192kbit CBR, but of much better quality.
BTW, the audiograbber can use the FreeDB to recognize your CD's automaticly. :p

So, this 20$ are IMHO a good investment if you want to get good CD rip's in the easy way. :D (This is NO commercial! ;) )

I hope, I can help someone.

Tux

P.S.: You can find a demo version here: http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/

[pacohaas]

tux: EAC and CDEX do this for free, exactly what you said, only better methods, more configuration of LAME(it sounds like) and other encoders. Plus EAC has a wav editor. I really think you got taken by this company, when you could have a better tool for free.

[Tux]

Hi Pacohaas.

I simply was in need to get such a tool at beginning of this year. But I was't able to find something like this for free at this time.
So I get a program, with such a dump thing like me can make quick, easy and good results. ;)
But seriously. I read in the postings that someone has problems with these free proggies. And the only thing I want to do is to show an option. Surely, the most people here in this forum are experienced enough to manage the smaller and larger traps in all these free software. But the one or the other will be very pleased to get a easy working product with offical support and help, even in his own language. :)
So I hope that I don't broke some rules when post a link to a chargeable product. I Only want to show a option. No more. Peace? :)

Tux

[DIggedy]

I must be missing something here... if I wanna rip a track I'll just do it thru Nero>Save tracks. Is there something wrong with this method?

[The Link]

I think there are hundreds of possibilities to rip a audio-cd! It´s just up to you how secure the process should be and what quality of the result you expect/need. :)

Regards,

The Link