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balance07
25th June 2002, 00:00
this has been happening to all the anime i encode lately and i don't like it. it happens even more when i hardsub my stuff, these weird blocks (u can see them on her tits here) pop up on subs and what seems to be sections that have no motion... can anyone explain to me what they are, what causes them, and if there is any good way to prevent them? i tried a pretty conservative application of anti-shit but that causes assloads of keyframes sometimes and looks like shit. please help or direct me to another thread that might address this, i've searched all over, but i don't really know what i'm searching for =[

/balance07

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/riertel/blocks.jpg

RadicalEd
25th June 2002, 00:12
lol.. I like your style. The scared thing was a nice touch. Anyway I know of a thread all about this but I have to find it... gimme a sec

Eek, 10 minutes later and I can't seem to find this... anybody remember where this was? It was pretty recent...

10 more minutes later...
Bingo.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26213
That should help.

balance07
25th June 2002, 17:41
from reading that thread, it sounds like its just one of those things w/ divx3. i am trying one more attempt w/ anti-shit (with min quality = 1 and anti-shit = 1, motion 0%) just to see if there is any difference. i have tried w/ the suggested values from doom9's guide, but that just makes the patches of key frames every frame ugliness, which is worse than these blockies. i'm thinkin its time for me to move to XviD for my personal encodes.

thanks and any other suggestions are welcome

/balance07

RadicalEd
25th June 2002, 20:27
XviD is alright (did 1 anime in this) but for anime RealVideo 9 is really the best for a number of reasons and the only real argument against it is that one cannot edit it further. My response to that is 1. Why do you need to edit a movie you already encoded and burned to CD anyway? and 2. laziness is one of the 12 deadly sins or whatever. Go download EO video and spend some of that o so abundant free time with one measly extra step.
RealAudio is better for sub and dub anime too because similar quality to 96 kbps Vorbis can be achieved at 64 kbps, making the total audio bandwidth requirement 128 kbps instead of 192.

manono
26th June 2002, 04:37
Hi-

If you used Doom9's suggestion to set Min. Qual. to 28-30, then that's why you get too many keyframes and an oversized file. Try Anti-shit at 16 and Min Qual=1. If that doesn't get rid of the blocks, then try Anti-shit at 20 or so. If that doesn't do it, then switch to DivX 5.02 or XviD.

Kyo
26th June 2002, 06:35
Alternative solution may be to choose a diferent colors for the subs try to reduce the contrast between the border and the letter color.
AKA no black border and white sub more like blue border white-blue letter.