Audio and Video

[ramutan]

I been reading the FQA about audiosynch and how to correct the problem, I guess this happen before and somebody already answer to this question but I went back on the forum trying to find it before posting it. Without luck and with my eyes tired of looking for the answer I decided to post this question and let the fantastic people in this forum give me some advice.

I a newby using DVD2SVCD, I been able to do some backups without a problem and pretty much learned to love this program for the way it works. I download it like 35 days ago and the demo TMPGEnc was expired after coming back from vacations, so I went to get the new version TMPGEnc 2.5 and got me a key for $48 on the web site.
This is when my problems started, I get 3 images to burn and 2 are perfect with audio and video playing at the same time. time to check the last image #3 and the audio and video are outsync..... done the process already 4 times with 4 different DVD's and I get the same result all the time. Is there a way to sync the last image??
It's this even possible???

I wll appreciate some advice and info if people had the same problem,
and thanks to all the forum to take time to read this.

[gerti67]

Hi ramutan,

welcome to the forum. :)

This is weird, can you go back to a older version of TMPGEnc and see if this solves the issue? I think the key you got must also be working with older versions.

Then try again - just a guess though as you never had problems when using the older version, or try a DVD with the new TMPGEnc version you did with the older version in the past and that played correctly.

Hope that helps,
Gerti

P.S. If this doesn't help please post your logs.

[ramutan]

I went back to track the problem and check if it is related to the settings on DVD2SVCD, I'm using default settings that worked before my problem started. I try a new DVD yesterday to se the results that wher the same as before, image #1 and #2 where fine but #3 was really bad with the audio ahead 3 seconds.

This is my log:

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- 6/23/2002 7:50:06 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 6/23/2002 7:50:09 PM
- Free on drive G: 22348.48 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_1.vob
- C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_2.vob
- C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_3.vob
- C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_4.vob
- C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_5.vob
- C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_6.vob

Ripping: C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: C:\Movie\I am Sam\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 17251

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- 6/23/2002 7:55:41 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[G:\I am Sam\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[G:\I am Sam\VTS_01_1.vob,G:\I am Sam\VTS_01_2.vob,G:\I am Sam\VTS_01_3.vob,G:\I am Sam\VTS_01_4.vob,G:\I am Sam\VTS_01_5.vob,G:\I am Sam\VTS_01_6.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 6/23/2002 7:59:33 PM
- Free on drive G: 16771.42 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: G:\I am Sam\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 6/23/2002 8:05:18 PM
- Free on drive G: 16347.86 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: G:\I am Sam\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "G:\I am Sam\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "G:\IAMSAM~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "G:\IAMSAM~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of G:\I am Sam\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 6/23/2002 8:23:11 PM
- Free on drive G: 16226.81 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 6/23/2002 8:23:16 PM
- Free on drive G: 16226.00 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding G:\I am Sam\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\TMPGnc 2.55\TMPGEnc.exe" "G:\I am Sam\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding G:\I am Sam\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 128821644
VideoPAPO: 36661680
ScanOffsetBytes: 171266
SeqAligningBytes: 10884931
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2318997230.40
Seconds: 7943.94
CalcMPEGStream: 2318997230.40
Frames: 190296
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\IAMSAM~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\TMPGnc 2.55\TMPGEnc.exe" "G:\I am Sam\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 6/24/2002 5:51:40 AM
- Free on drive G: 14117.45 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 6/24/2002 5:51:42 AM
- Free on drive G: 14117.45 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\I am Sam\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 6/24/2002 5:51:45 AM
- Free on drive G: 14117.41 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 6/24/2002 6:04:07 AM
- Free on drive G: 11838.69 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2754.240 seconds G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2798.040 seconds G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2378.544 seconds G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 6/24/2002 6:05:41 AM
- Free on drive G: 11838.67 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 9

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "G:\I am Sam\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 6/24/2002 6:07:53 AM
- Free on drive G: 11032.80 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 8

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "G:\I am Sam\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
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- 6/24/2002 6:10:31 AM
- Free on drive G: 10226.84 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 6

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "G:\I am Sam\VCDXBuild_Script_3.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 6/24/2002 6:12:46 AM
- Free on drive G: 9527.77 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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- 6/24/2002 7:55:35 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 6/24/2002 7:55:42 AM
- Free on drive G: 9527.73 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Pulldown
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- 6/24/2002 7:55:43 AM
- Free on drive G: 9527.72 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Pulldown\pulldown.exe" "G:\I am Sam\Encoded_Video_TMPGEnc_NTSC.mpv" "G:\I am Sam\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 6/24/2002 8:04:44 AM
- Free on drive G: 9697.92 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 6/24/2002 8:04:46 AM
- Free on drive G: 9697.92 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\I am Sam\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 6/24/2002 8:04:50 AM
- Free on drive G: 9697.91 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 6/24/2002 8:20:02 AM
- Free on drive G: 7419.19 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2754.240 seconds G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2798.040 seconds G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2378.544 seconds G:\I am Sam\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 6/24/2002 8:22:07 AM
- Free on drive G: 7419.19 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 9

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "G:\I am Sam\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 6/24/2002 8:25:31 AM
- Free on drive G: 7419.19 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 8

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "G:\I am Sam\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
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- 6/24/2002 8:29:02 AM
- Free on drive G: 7419.19 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 6

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="G:\I am Sam\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "G:\I am Sam\VCDXBuild_Script_3.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 6/24/2002 8:32:09 AM
- Free on drive G: 7419.19 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!

If some one see something that dosen't make sence, please let me know...

[avdmb]

I am not a specialist of NTSC encoding but :
1) I don't see anything strange.
2) Why did you recover from pulldown step ?
3) Always follow suggestions from Gerti67 :This is weird, can you go back to a older version of TMPGEnc and see if this solves the issue? I think the key you got must also be working with older versions.

Then try again - just a guess though as you never had problems when using the older version, or try a DVD with the new TMPGEnc version you did with the older version in the past and that played correctly.
4) Maybe try version 9b2 (or even 9B3), but if it worked for you in the past with 9b1, I don't think it will help.

[ramutan]

I Started from pulldown again because I wanted to change some settings, but you know what happen already #1 and #2 good; #3 bad.
But this is what I did to see if the problem is related with the software running out (demo of TMPGEnc). What I did to prove it's not the new version I istalled DVD2SVCD 1.9 bunddle build 1 along with TMPGEnc 2.5 on my older machine:

Duron 800 Mhz
128 MB Ram
Windows 98 SE
20 GB hard drive 5400 rpm's

So I started yesterday with this new DVD (Star Wars episode 1) and after 15 hours I got the movie ready to go and went to test on my JVC XV-S500BK and the movie is fine, i got 3 discs and all of them are on sync. So I'm going to reformat my drive and see what happen, but first to scan my registry because I get the feeling that the demo may be the problem.
If anybody know's something please let me know.

[gerti67]

Hmmm,

ok, like avdmb already said, I don't see anything alarming in the log - only thing is, the movie has 190296 frames and uses NTSC Film framerate of 23.976 FPS which would mean the movie is about 7936.94 seconds (190296 : 23.976). But when adding the single values from the muxed files I only get about 7930 seconds - so there are 6 seconds missing - because you are using a movie offset of "0" and an overlap of "0" this shouldn't be the case. :confused:

Like avdmb already suggested, I would really like you to grab the latest build 1.0.9 Build 3 from within this thread (down the page) and try it again:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26981&pagenumber=3

If you don't want to do this again, what about muxing the MPV and the MP2 with TMPGEnc and then cutting it with its MPEG Tools into pieces. Then just rename them according to the files bbMPEG has created and recover from the "SVCD Authoring" step - this should do the trick - but sure you still get no clue what is causing this issue.

You could also try to use a movie offset of 2 as it's the default setting and can cure some async issues. Or avoid using the change cd pictures.

I also tend to believe this to be a muxing error with bbMPEG so you can try to post the "bbMPEG Movie SettingsX.ini" files or at least only the "[general]" paragraphs from within them (or zip them and attach them to the post.

It's weird,
Gerti

[gunnimabi]

:devil: There is another program rather than DVD2SVCD, that's "Burn DVD to VCD/SVCD/Avi(DivX) in CD-R/RW", it's easy to use and powerful, if you have interest you can give it a try, you can download it from the Free Download Area of www.jummpa.com

[gerti67]

@gunnimabi:

Ok, some people never learn, or at least only the hard way, again you broke forum rule #5 as you seem to only post sentences like this ("there's another tool...") in _ALL_ your posts.

So this is strike number 3 - say bye bye - come back later. :angry:

Gerti

"You live and learn. At any rate, you live." - Douglas Adams

Seems to match here.

[ramutan]

I format my drive with the hope that DVD2SVCD will work again, but the problem still there. I backup a new DVD yesterday and I got the same result, Disc # 3 out sync by almost 4 seconds.
Im using no DVD2SVCD 1.0.9 Biuld 3 with TMPGEnc 2.56, Movie offset second 2 like somebody suggested, CD overlap Sec 2, no tittle picture, no cd change picture, and all the other setting default.

Im about to start pulling my hair.....
By the way my Box is a XP, and the funny thing it's that I istalled the same software on my 2nd Box with 98SE and it work's fine!