divx to svcd questions

[Norco]

first like to say yeah i know its a waste divx to svcd instead of straight from dvd to svcd but i dont have the dvds and not spending any money on renting dvds lol since im poor =P but anyways.

i got a dvd divx rip of kenshin oav(512x384, 1.4 gigs big)and was gonna convert it onto 2 svcds.. thought vcd but i want to try keep as much quality of the divx and im sure to vcd i would lose some.. its 4 parts.. 2 parts each cd.. part 1 and 2 is 54 mins 14 seconds and part 3 and 4 is 58 mins 31 seconds...

now i was wonder best way to go about doing this.. im was thinking tmpeg... and i was testing some settings out.. i would have it on VGA 1:1 and video arrange method on full screen(keep aspect ratio).. after i had a clip.. and viewed it on computer.. it looked fine so i jsut burned it onto a cdrw see how would look on the dvd player.. and i notice that when u watch it on the dvd player it cuts part of the video from the sides.. is that the dvd player thats doing htat? i got a apex ad-1500... so that annoyed me..but would it be ok to do center(keep aspect ratio) for video arrange method or am i losing quality or what?

so if u got any tips or anything to make it the best it can possibly get lemmy know thx

my comps a dinosaur so i cant even watch the divx on my computer runs CHOPPY =P why i only did clips lol.. when i do the final thing ill do it on a friends comp. my p200 jsut cant handle anything LoL takes years

[djidjo]

480 x 576 pixels : this is the definition of SVCD so if you don't change the definition (512x384) the width of the video is bigger than the TV-Screen. You have to try different video arrange methods. I'm surprised that "Full screen(keep aspect ratio)" didn't work try others like this ("Full Screen", "Full screen(keep aspect ratio 2)"), but I doubt "center" will work because it doesn't resize the video and you have to resize it.
There you have a good explanation of all arrange video methods in tmpgenc :
http://www.vcdhelp.com/tmpgencexplained.htm

Good luck !
Djidjo

PS : did you test before if your DVD player supports SVCD ? You have to download the SVCD sample from this site and test it before making some more tests.

[poopity poop]

I have a suggestion...wait one week until I'm on my OC3 and I'll send you my most recent encodes of the Kenshin OAV's:

720x480 (XSVCD format 29.97fps 3:2 pulldown)
450-4708Kbps vbr
avg ~3200Kbps(different for each of the 4 episodes of course)
both audio's (jappanesse and english 192Kbps each)
1 episode/ CD (800MB mode 2)
Chaptered
burnt in subtitles (my DVD player doens't support SVCD or CVD subs)

I used many many filters, and it looks better than the DVD. I don't care what you MEAN people say out there about me (I refer to the posts saying I know shit). I got rid of all the junk in the DVD and made a better, cleaner mpeg-2.

So anyway... if you want the most absolutly highest quality encode out there (I've downloaded ADX's) just download mine in a week.... :) Should have an FTP available july 1-3

Awaiting all the responsing saying I'm full of myelf.....let them fill this forum like cockroachs...I'm pretty much stopped coming to doom9's forum for that reason. I don;t care if people out there think I'm full of crap. I can make a damn clean mpeg-2 stream..cleaner than the source

[ulfschack]

@Norco

Reason for not seeing the outermost edges of your video is due to the dvd player's overscan. It might seem stupid that there is such a thing, but fact remains that this is common on most players.

I'm actually surprised that you didn't notice any crop to the top-bottom edges as well ... (maybe the divx was letterboxed? ... crops on black don't show that much :))

What I do to overcom this problem is to add some black borders to the video. I do this either in TmpgEnc (fiddel with the arrange settings) or virtualdub, but mostly just as a line in an avisynth script. Other than that, 2-pass VBR in TmpgEnc is the way to go.

Just make sure that when your done with it all the resolution is 480x576 or 480x480 (NTSC) borders included, and that the aspect ratio for the mpeg is 4:3 (in this case).

cheers

[Norco]

yeah i know a svcd is 480x576 or 480x480.. i followed the guide from doom9s site avi to svcd... and my player does play svcd, vcd, xvcd, xsvcd, ive tested all ... i was sure the part of reencoding the avi to svcd made it to the 480x480 res depending on the template u picked.. but anyways

poopity sounds like a great idea those xsvcds u made for the oav.. i got your 1-52 kenshin that u did in divx also =P i thought they were alright.. im not fussy either tho so not that fussy anyways since u said your own encodes were crap lol

but i havent watched them yet.. my computer cant run sh!t =P lol so still waiting to watch kenshin looks great =P


ulsfchack.. about the sides being cut off.. ive burned some svcds that arent cut off on the sides either so not sure whats going on hehe

anyways thx for info guys

[poopity poop]

about those sides overscam:
I'm at work so I'm just trying to remember the numbers, but a TV overscan's 17 pixels on the top/bottom and 36 pixels on the sides. When I encode a movie(with an AR other than 4:3)I put 8 pixels on the sides and resize the image acordingly. The Kenshin OAV's I did I added like 16 to the top/bottom and 32 on the sides. Something like that. The way I add borders is to crop what I want...resize the image to like 472x472 or whatever...then add sufficient borders to make it a standard resolution. I do all this in avisynth.
Just a suggestion to do that when encoding anime to CD/SVCD/XSVCD/etc. It just adds more of the picture that you actually would not have seen on the DVD!

Yeah my 1-52 Kenshin eps are too smoothed half of them, and the REALLY high motion scenes are slightly blocky. Starting very soon I'll be redoing them all the way up to 95. By the time I get up to 80 or so the DVD's shouldbe out. I'm making them ogg/vorbis with a DivX5 and ogg core, at about 3ep/CD. I've already completed the OAV's, and the video is very pure. In fact its interesting to note that I did an encode at CQ DRF=2, you know the highest quality possible, and I could only get the file size for a 23 min ep up to 270MB(without audio, ~330 /audio(2tracks)). I still say that DivX5 whipes the floor with any nandub encode. (note: I did not mention XViD here :) ).
I may do that or just encode them all to SVCD 2/CD, I have yet to decide what I want and where the market is.