w2k problem

[aai]

recently I bought a computer intel III IGhz nvidia geforce 2 mx/mx400 and installed w2k on it.
When playing a divx movie with windows mediaplayer the movie(note any movie)freezes.
At that point I can't stop the mediaplayer with the taskmanager(taskmanager won't show up after ctrl_alt_del)
All I can do is reset the computer.
I looked into the soundcards but didn't find the solution yet.
Maybe there is a integrated videocard I'm not aware off and is bugging the computer?
Hope someone can point me in the right direction!
aai

[[NEX]]

Are u using the DivX antifreeze You should try using it, if it doesnt work use the DivXG400 Filter i have read that it fixes some Nvidia
issues, you should also reinstall the DivX codecs and look for the lastest drivers for the GeForce.
you can foun the filters here http://www.tac.ee/~prr/videoutils/
hope this helps.

[aai]

nt

[aai]

well all your tips didn't worked out:-(

In the meanwhile I changed the video card ,no result.
I changed the operating system (clean setup) to xp.
I have now a installation xp with only the divx 311 codec as extra.
(no other software installed on this machine)
and still have this problem
As you can imagion it's driving me to the wall!!

aai

[cpuuk]

What was the replacement video card? If it was another nvidia, suggest you try a later version of drivers, or if you are using beta drivers, try using the official releasd version of nvidia drivers.

[phamilton]

aai -
There are a range of problems with Nvidia board drivers that can cause the system to freeze (the driver goes into an infinite loop). You said that you changed the video board but didn't say what you changed it to - if it is another Nvidia you may have the same problem. I suggest that you download the most recent driver from the Nvidia site and try that. I have a Leadtek Winfast Geforce 3 video card that locks up in Win XP with their driver, but works fine with the Nvidia Geforce 3 driver.

[aai]

The replaced card was an asus v3800 (so also nvidia)

I did all the driver updates possible to no avail.

this is the xp error message

the drivers for the displaydevice was unable to complete a drawing operation. plese check for a driver update (i did)

error signature
s2AppName: drivers.display. s2AppVer: 10DE0110B2000110B0
S2ModName:nv4.dll (after update nv4_disp.dll)S2ModVer:
5.1.2001.1240 offset:FB6306EA

aai

[fisix]

ok, questions:

are you overclocking?

does the computer crash when doing anything else like running word, like using winamp to play mp3's, like playing any downloadable game demo?

what kind of sound card?

did you check all the little menus in the bios and turn off any onboard video and/or sound?


in the meantime try downloading some test suite like the demo ontrack system test software and try to test your hardrive and system memory. i fixed a similar problem with a friend's computer by getting rid of bad memory. how much memory are you running? did you canabalize memory from a previous computer? try running with just a single stick.

from what you've said, i think you either have a system memory issue or a sound card issue (you've tested the video, it seems). if both of those are fine, then you might have a faulty power supply, but ALL of these should evince some similar symtoms when/if you try other media heavy apps. i suppose you could have a via based mboard and have not installed the agp drivers correctly (or at all).

tell us what kind of mboard you're using, did you buy a system from a dealer?

-fisix

[aai]

at the moment It's a clean setup no other software installed.
so no other applications are running on the background.

there is a soundcard onboard (soundmax)
and i have installed soundblaster live
(the on board soundmax was disabled at first, problem was the same )

I run 3 sticks of 128 mb (they are new)FD RAM128pcc133 something like that.

intel 3 994 Ghz motherboard D815E CPV (not sure about the last 3 letters)

harddrive 40GB western digital 7200rpm

housing AOPEN

I bought the computer from the hard/software supplier at work
(most times the supplier only the best)
I'v put the dvd drive soundcard videocard in.

One thing about the videocard
in xp it install by itself
if i look in the propperties under general it says

location pci bus 2 device 0 function 0

it's an AGP though
I have tried to reinstall but it remains this way

i'm unsure what you mean by
"i suppose you could have a via based mboard and have not installed the agp drivers correctly (or at all). "

[aai]

I checked the bios
AGP is chosen for the graphiccard

[cpuuk]

OK, easy check next- are the nvidia drivers certified for XP, if it doesn't explicitly say so then that is the problem.

[aai]

it's driver version 2.9.4.2
(for 2000/xp)

[cpuuk]

Are those the official drivers for that card?

[aai]

update

[TactX]

Originally posted by aai
I run 3 sticks of 128 mb (they are new)FD RAM128pcc133 something like that.

Remove two of those modules.
Some (many) boards/chipsets have a problem when running more than two modules.

And btw you could try using less agressive RAM-settings.

[fisix]

if running only one stick of memory doesn't make things better, then try removing the sound blaster card and using the onboard audio.


you don't have a via based board so you don't have to worry about what i said before.

the agp slot sometimes shows up as pci device 0 or pci device 7, it's not something you need to worry about.

more things to try:
in your bios, choose to load all the default settings, then try divx.

are you sure you've really looked around in your bios for places where you need to turn off the onboard sound? in the two boards i've had that have versions available with onboard sound, i had to turn off the onboard sound in 2 different places.

you never answered if you could play mp3's or any downloadable game demos like starwars or gore or some other FPS. can you?

finally, try installing a different operating system, preferrably win2k. if you still have problems then it almost has to be a hardware problem and you should take it back to the guy who sold it to you and ask for either help or another computer.

-fisix

[phamilton]

I had a similar problem with the video playing up on a system - turned out to be a memory fault. I discovered that what looked like a memory test when the system was booted wasn't a test at all - I had to set the bios to the 'fail-safe' memory condition to turn the test on (this also set conservative memory timing). Next boot produced an error message about bad memory.

[aai]

what i did already to no avail.

Removed the soundcard and installed the onboard drivers,
switched from 2000 to xp ,
set the bios to default,
look into the bios power management .

finaly i removed 2 of the 3 128mb sticks and checked them all out.
They worked fine when used as single stick.
When removing them I also had to remove the graphic card.
So I switched some cards around and in the end restored all to normal.
I now have played a movie without a problem thrice.

Whatever it was i hope it's gone just by pulling some cards and putting them back. Is it possible the graphic card wasn't properly
on his place.:angry: :confused: :o
I'll keep you posted if it's NOT gone.
thanks for all your help!!
aai

[aai]

well the problem is still here.:-(

[fisix]

when you say 'they worked fine as one stick' did you mean you could play a movie with only one stick in? i would try that if you can. if one doesn't work, try each of the others. if none work, then i guess it's not the memory.

hmm. i'll think a little bit before i post again. but it did work one just fine after reseating all your cards? did you have all the memory installed?

-fisix

[aai]

yes I could play a movie with one stick.
and they worked all 3 individual.
I played a full movie just with one stick to check if the problem
stayed when using just one stick and also with one stick it freezes eventually.
At the moment i run my final test (if this doesn't give me an answer i'll return the computer and have them check the rest:)

i installed a S3trio 3D2X AGPcard
not a very good card compared with nvidia but if i'm correct
it has NO nvidia chip on board and that's what i like to test.

I hope this will give me the answer which I'm hoping for:
nvidia has a problem with intel and w2k/xp.

i'll keep you posted.

sorry about my euphoric mail yesterday,
you can be sure i run this test till i'm sure.
aai

[aai]

up till now it looks promissing
played a movie 5 times and no problems
found this on the net (i have this intel motherboard)
keep you posted
aai


(Update) Reported Problems With The Intel D815EEA Motherboard And GeForce Based Cards.

We had initially reported this note on 7/11/2001 due to the information that we had received from various customers:

It seems that the Intel D815EEA motherboard has specific issues with any cards built with any of the GeForce chipsets, these issues include display corruption problems and many instability issues. This problem is specific to the Intel D815EEA motherboard and should be properly addressed by Intel. Until Intel makes the needed corrections, there is no fix for it.

However, as of 9/13/2001, in consultation with Intel, we can find no concrete information that points at anything specific wrong with the Intel D815EEA motherboard when used with GeForce based graphics cards. Further testing has also allowed us to rule out any inherent problems or compatibility issues with the D815EEA and GeForce combination.

If you experience a problem with such a combination, please report the issue to our tech support staff immediately.

[cpuuk]

Is there a drivers update from Intel for this m/b? Have you run SP2 to update the drivers?

[aai]

not that i know of,
i looked around but don't see a driver update for intel.

I don't have sp2 yet.

probably I will install a new graphic card not geforce based.
It's what the supplier offers as a solution.

aai

testing goes well
played around 10 movies there was no problem.

[cpuuk]

Woah! You haven't installed SP2, man that has sooo many bug fix and motherboard updates, that it is a must try option.

[aai]

I'll try the xp SP2 if i'll find one.
I looked around but can't seem to find it.
aai

[cpuuk]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp2/sp2lang.asp

select language and press download.

[aai]

i switched to xp to try and solve my problems

aai

[MvB]

Try to uninstall divx4 if you have it. on my computer divx4.x has caused these freezes (with dual processor support).
divx5 and 3.11 work fine.

Another issue: check whether your cpu fan is attached correctly to the cpu! maybe your cpu is getting to hot.

MvB

[fisix]

@aai

nice pull on the "reported Problems with Intel board" information. that might very well be your problem, which unfortuneately might mean that if you stick with that motherboard, you can't use the nvidia display card. since you aren't going to use the onboard sound OR video, i'd ask the supplier to give you a different, more simple mboard rather than nix the geforce cards. one that i've had really good experiences with is the asus tusl2-c. can be had for less than $100.

otherwise, i think you are stuck unless there is a bios update for your current mboard that fixes the issues.

you might try win2k with sp2 installed before you give up. also only installing divx 3.11 (though i think you've already tried this) and testing might be good. hmm. you know, the geforce 2 cards were renown for using ALOT of board current. if your powersupply is a little wimpy, running the card with all the memory might be an issue. see if you can find out if your powersupply is a 250W, 300W or higher. i remember that even with a good powersupply, there were some motherboards that couldn't properly regulate the current to some geforce cards. sigh.

anyway, i'd still consider upgrading the mboard rather than the grafics card. it is an excercise in futility to try to base a stable system on a buggy mboard. it can become a daily fight, and one not worth fighting.

good luck, let us know your decisions

-fisix

[aai]

I came to the same conclusion and will replace the motherboard for a asus p4T-e acpi.

Thanks for all the input

aai

[fisix]

i thought you had a P3 1GHz?

the p4t-e is for P4s (different cpu).

are you just getting a different system?

-fisix

[aai]

Yes i was afraid this would need more explaining :D

I told you that i bought the pc from the soft/hardware supplier at work.
At the same time we bought 2 more computers for office applications.
I checked them out, one is intel p4 the other asus p4.
I took the p3 because of the price :D
I will now place the harddrive, graphic card, dvdromdrive from my pc to the asus and vice versa .For the memorysticks I made a deal with the supplier to switch 2 p3 128mb sticks for 2 p4 128mb sticks.
This will leave me with a perfect running pc (I hope)
At the office they don't play divx so they won't notice the difference. (wel we need to reinstall to be on the safe side)
everybody happy ;-)

thanks again

aai

[TactX]

Originally posted by aai
At the office they don't play divx ...

Are you sure ? :)

[aai]

:D

not with a geforce that is

aai