KVCD and KDVD download page + DVD compatibility chart

[kwag]

A new page has been added, with all the current templates available for download. The DVD compatibility chart has been added too.

All templates now share basically the same GOP structure and the "Andreas" Q Matrix is the default for all templates. The KDVD templates also have the "Andreas" matrix as default.

It's all available at the main page in the left panel or here:
http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html

Thanks to "MrRobot" for sending me his compatibility list and for taking the time to search and read the hundreds of posts needed to compile this initial information. And to everyone who has taken the time to report compatibility issues with different DVD players.

Enjoy!,
kwag

[kwag]

Originally posted by Bach
I also have a new awesome template. It is called BS-VCD and there is a BS-DVD coming soon. The most wonderfull enhancement is that it is using a frame size of 16x16 (macroblock optimized!) and the whole movie have only ONE HUGE GOP, completely source dependant, so that i.e. a movie with 180000 frames will have 1 I-frame, 59999 P-frames and 120000 B-frames. It is possible to compress the whole SPR into just one floppy disk! With a wonderfull quality! I cannot even realize the difference between my floppy and my DVD!:D

ROTFLMAOWPIMP

It seems that moviemasty have a unknown brother...

Happy birthday Bach!
Im sending you a cake with 10 ( maybe 12 ) candles. How's that! :D

[kwag]

http://www.dvd-svcd-forum.de/phorum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=18;t=46
:cool:

[kwag]

Now with KVCD.Net's own Quantization Matrix.
The sample speaks for itself. You decide ;)
http://ns1.shidima.com/kwag/matrix-704x480.mpg ( soundless sample )
Beta templates and more samples available here:
http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html

Enjoy,
kwag

[Latexxx]

What is the bitrate of that clip?

[buba king]

Originally posted by Latexxx
What is the bitrate of that clip?

3874KB / 19SECONDS * 8 = 1631kbit/s

[kwag]

Originally posted by Latexxx
What is the bitrate of that clip?


@buba king:
You got that 3,874 from bit rate viewer, right? ;) That's the spike you get on the end of the mpeg file (the cut-off point) It's not real.

@Latexxx
The max bit rate in the template is set to 2,300Kbps. The average bit rate in the clip is 1,651Kbps with an average Q. level of 2.22.

kwag

[dvd2svcd]

3874 KB is the total file size.

TotalFilesize / Seconds * 8 = kbit/s

[kwag]

Originally posted by dvd2svcd
3874 KB is the total file size.

TotalFilesize / Seconds * 8 = kbit/s

OOPS!, coincidence!, the spike in the end of bit wate viewer is 3,872 ( close! ) :D That's what I thought he meant. Sorry :scared:
( Too many hours without sleep :o )

kwag

[NeVeRLiFt]

ROFLMAO
this guy does the same thing at vcdhelp's forum

[dvd2svcd]

@Bach, yes ofcourse :) I was illustrating buba king's calculation.

[TactX]

Dammit !!!

Why all the years of learning stuff about MPEG-1/2,(S)VCDs, testing different encoders, reading technical papers and dealing with slow de-noise filters as they get null and void, just by a simple template that makes better encodings like anything I've done before ? :(

WHY ? (...listen to the sound of an old man who's finally realizing that his life was just fu***ng piece of s**t...)






:)

[buba king]

Originally posted by Bach
XXXX KB/s = XXXX*1024*8/1000 kbps

so,

3874/19 KB/s = 203.895 KB/s = 1670.3 kbps

;)

yes.. doh! i blame it all on the pepsi!

[buba king]

Originally posted by TactX
Dammit !!!

Why all the years of learning stuff about MPEG-1/2,(S)VCDs, testing different encoders, reading technical papers and dealing with slow de-noise filters as they get null and void, just by a simple template that makes better encodings like anything I've done before ? :(

WHY ? (...listen to the sound of an old man who's finally realizing that his life was just fu***ng piece of s**t...)






:)

the problem with this stuff that it works on like 5% of all set top boxes . Pluss its not in the within the spec.. so its cheating :P

[kwag]

Originally posted by buba king


the problem with this stuff that it works on like 5% of all set top boxes . Pluss its not in the within the spec.. so its cheating :P

I wouldn't say that Bubba King. Take a look at the list. And it's growing ;)
http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html

-kwag

[Cosmo999]

Kwag,
Why do you resize from 720 to 704 pixels?

[kwag]

Originally posted by Cosmo999
Kwag,
Why do you resize from 720 to 704 pixels?

The 704x480 was done for a reason. 704x480 is a valid MPEG-1 "still" pictures resolution for all VCD's. So every DVD player that can play a VCD, will (should!) play a still 704x480 picture. And because of that, most do play ( our bonus ;) ) mpeg video at 704x480, but many don't play 720x480.

-kwag

[dvd2svcd]

Kwag, I think Cosmo999 means why do you resize at all. (My guess is because macroblock optimization (diviable with 16 (and 32) on both height and width))

[kwag]

@dvd2svcd
True. But also because the output resolution is 704x480. Not 720x480, which causes some problems on some standalone DVD players.

-kwag

[Cosmo999]

Thanks for the reply, Kwag.

I'm new to all this, do you know of any online manual of using your template with DVD2SVCD? I'd like to try your 704x480 template and judge for myself... DVD2SVCD is so easy to use.

I've just started experimenting with 720x480 XSVCD's using CCE with a 2500 video bitrate.

[kwag]

Originally posted by Cosmo999
Thanks for the reply, Kwag.

I'm new to all this, do you know of any online manual of using your template with DVD2SVCD? I'd like to try your 704x480 template and judge for myself... DVD2SVCD is so easy to use.

I've just started experimenting with 720x480 XSVCD's using CCE with a 2500 video bitrate.

You can use DVD2SVCD. Just be sure to check the option that let's you edit the AviSynth script.
You can do this:
Use FitCD to create your .avs script with all your resizing and parameters you want. Then, when you run DVD2SVCD, at the moment the pop-up screen comes up to let you edit the script, paste your AviSynth script generated by FitCD into the window, substituting the default.
Mind you, you won't get the small file size if you encode with CCE, because CCE's GOP structure has a max size ( bummer! ) that can't be changed, so your files with CCE will be larger.

-kwag

[Cosmo999]

Thanks for the info! I have TMPGenc, too. I'll play around with both and see what happens.