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Mnemonic
12th June 2002, 14:42
THe following is for Main Movie rips.
I have done the following on the last 3 movies with PERFECT results. Use your favorite bitrate calculator to figure what you can fit onto your DVD ( i use tmpeg, its so easy with the wizard). Follow the guide for CCE accept do a multipass 1 pass on your FIRST shot, set max bitrate to 9500 and min to 0. Set your average bitrate to whatever you need for the correct file size, and presto!! in four hours on a P4 1.5 youll have a re-encoded BEAUTIFUL m2v I found there is no need to go into advance and change all the grey areas!!! CCE will do the best it can with the bitrate you set without all the extra BS! If there is a complicated part of the M2Vit turns up the bitrate to your max ANYWAY and going in there and setting it higher manually DOES NOTHING! I have done more than 20 movies with CCE and now i have learned that you can do it MUCH EASIER!
Doom9
12th June 2002, 14:45
please try to get a movie at original resolution down to SVCD sizes using your method and then you'll see.. of course.. if you want to use 4GB for the main movie you don't have to adjust manually.. but if you have several GBs of extras the situation will be quite different..
Mnemonic
12th June 2002, 14:52
And yes you are correct for main movie rips only, but i think thats what most people do, and there is no guide saying you can do it this easy. Its MUCH MUCH easier and beter than ReMpeg. I edited the original to specify for main movie rips ;)
DJans
13th June 2002, 11:55
Which value do you use for "Q:"? I tried 40 and 60 but did not see any difference. From my view I would say 40 is a little bit better but maybe I am wrong.
What is the value for "Q:" exatly for? And which is the best value?
Doom9
13th June 2002, 12:14
Q = quality.. of course that's subjective but the higher the better.. and I'm pretty sure even your copy of CCE came with a nice pdf manual that explains every option of CCE... I suggest you take your time and read it.. it may take you a while to understand it all but it's pretty well written and you might learn one or two things.. I know I did ;)
Of course the lower the Q factor is the better the picture quality.
bezerk
13th June 2002, 21:10
yes, Q60 is bad, I use Q20-30, it depends on the movie, lower the Q bigger the file and better the Quality.
I find robshots method a bit of an overkill, if you plan to put 1 movie on DVD it's useless. Even with 2 movies, which I don't do often, I don't use it, to me there is no visual improvement and sometimes even if I raise average GOP bitrate to MAX 9800 Quantisation is higher then 9, go figure.
Perhaps with 3 movies......but it's very,very time consuming.
I encode multipass 3-5 (dependent on movie length and how much I will sleep :), with min 0 max 9000, cause CCE tends to go over and scenarist complains.
mikeathome
14th June 2002, 10:20
Hi,
just for clarification:
- Q: is the Quantization, means the NUMBER OF quantization factors the encoder will use during encoding
- knowing that -> the less quantization factors the better
- you won't see big differences from Q: 30-60 on most encodings but highly depends on the movie, means the amount of motion in the scenes e.g.
- start with Q:30 on a high motion scene just a few seconds (fast),
- then encode your whole movie at Q:30
- if it'll fit, your fine, if not, encode the same short scene (from above) at Q: 40, 50, 60 and guesstimate your final length from that snapshot
- this is still faster than a full 3-pass vbr
- NOTHINGS beats a 3passVBR in terms of quality, size and encoding time for a long (>2.5hour) movie
mike
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