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goatboy
12th June 2002, 03:14
Hi, hope someone can help me out here: I've been having a go at this for a while, and I've followed doom9's Maestro guide, as well as searched this forum for anything that might help.

I've authored my first Maestro dvd project (I've been using ifoedit for a while, and had used other authoring software before, such as SpruceUp and Dvdit! SE), with several motion menus and a couple of still menus, and when I compile it in Maestro, then play it on my hard drive using ifoedit's dvd player, it all works perfectly. However, when I then make a disc image of it using ifoedit, and burn using Prassi, none of the main menu buttons work at all, either on the PC, on my Pioneer 535 or Xbox: the first play file is ok, and I can get to the title menu (which is a motion menu, and plays perfectly) by pressing 'Menu', but from then on it won't accept any input: I can't move the highlight with the arrow buttons, and I can't activate the button that it's on automatically (button 1).
Also, pressing the number keys on my dvd remote does nothing. When I try to do something else like scan through the animated menu it comes up with the little 'Forbidden function' icon, so I guess it's acknowledging some kind of input. On the Xbox it comes up with 'selection unavailable for anything I try to do (pressing Select on the highlighted button 1 for example).
I'm not sure whether this is a problem of Maestro or Ifoedit, since when I try playing the burned DVD using ifoedit, I get the same result, no joy with any of the buttons. Ifoedit is happy to run the same dvd from files on the hard drive though. One thing though, when I try running the same files on my hard drive by selecting everything in the video_ts folder within powerdvd, I get the same problem as I get using the burned disc.

I also tried to create a disc image using the option within Maestro, but it said that it didn't have the data files for the calculation and cancelled the procedure.
This is the second time this has happened on this same dvd, with different user prohibition settings (after it happened the first time with what I understood to be the right settings from doom9's guide, I tried again and deactivated all user prohibitions from all menus, but it had no effect.

Anyone got any idea what I might be doing wrong?

What I could really use in connection with this as well is some decent guide/explanation of some of the controls in the 'show connections' table in maestro: for example, End Action - does this refer to what it does automatically when it reaches the end of a particular movie? I assume that in a movie with many chapters you don't need to fill it in for each chapter, since it will automatically progress to the next chapter? For the final chapter and for trailers etc I've set it to return to the appropriate menus.
Also, the menu timeout connection: having looped all my motion menus as explained in the guide this shouldn't be necessary for those right? Also I assume that it's unnecessary for still menus as they can't timeout?

I would also appreciate if someone has a more detailed description/explanation of the menu properties table, and which user actions ought to be prohibited and when - doom9 touches upon it in his guide, but I wasn't sure exactly - is this basic info about dvd formats in general covered elsewhere in another guide where I can maybe read up on it? For example surely it's a bad idea to check the box to deselect button selection/activation on a menu?

Sorry if this post isn't making much sense anymore, it's 3am and I've not slept much for the last couple of days, going mad mastering this thing and trying to keep up with the world cup at the same time! Thanks!

Sequoyan
12th June 2002, 03:46
If you have Scenarist, try using it.

I think you'll find more people able to help with Scenarist then Maestro (maybe, maybe not).

- The Sequoyan

Arky
12th June 2002, 05:03
When you are in Maestro's menu editor, are you making sure to press the "Auto-Assign" button, in the 'navigation' region of the 'Advanced' Tab of the menu editor? Try this and get back to me if you still have no joy.


Arky ;o)


http://www.highvid.com/DVD/vob1/vob01.shtml

goatboy
12th June 2002, 19:56
Thanks for the replies guys :)

Sequoyan: I certainly intend to graduate to Scenarist, but I'm extremely daunted by it at this stage, I don't have any decent documentation for it (ahem). I'm hoping to be brave enough to try it out in a couple of weeks, because the Ifoedit/CCE method looks great to me, although there are a couple of aspects of that I'm uncertain about (eg what do you do if your extras are on the same vobs as your main movie?)

Arky: I had already auto-assigned buttons thanks, though I did look again afterwards to make sure. In fact, I burned the video_ts directory as a data disc in prassi, and it worked perfectly on my Pioneer and on my PS2, although the Xbox didn't seem to recognise the DVD-RW that I used.
I remember before I graduated from SpruceUp to Ifoedit that discs that I'd actually authored myself didn't seem to need the 'image' stage to be compatible with most machines, but my first few ifoedit titles only worked on my Pioneer and not the PS2/Xbox/other ppls machines until I used disc image: is this the case? ie will I be able to simply author and compile dvds with Maestro and burn as data discs with Prassi, thanks to Prassi's handy data-checks?

Thanks again :)

Sequoyan
12th June 2002, 22:28
Burning video_ts (and audio_ts) with prassi as data disc is what Pioneer engineers told me to do.

It's always worked great for me...

- The Sequoyan

goatboy
13th June 2002, 23:43
Thanks for that, I hoped it'd be ok. Strange that the ifoedit affects it adversely though... O well, just one of those mysteries :)