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fuzzie
26th May 2002, 19:51
Ok, sorry about this thread, but I have searched the forum and can't figure this out.

I can copy a DVD with DVD2SVCD and it works perfectly in the PC. I can use the Daemon Tols to simulate the image created. That plays perfectly. I go to make make a copy of that virtual disc, either by copying (with CDClone or Nero) or by image (again, Nero) and it won't work in the Stand Alone player (Toshiba 5 disc changer). The CDr will work in the PC.

I have tried different discs, no luck.

The Stand Alone player works with copies made by DUP-DVD, but of course those don't have the subchapters.

Can anyone help me resolve this problem?

chainsaw135
27th May 2002, 01:08
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19566

Read up on this first come back and post in more detail it could be many things wrong one could be the format of movie/could be that it can't handle those type's of subs, but that is a guess i dont do subs myself.

fuzzie
27th May 2002, 13:59
Thanks...read that and others...search for a answer, but I may not know enough to search for the right info.

My system:
P3 500 mhz
384 RAM
40 gb harddrive

Movies I have tried: Platoon, City of Angels, Matrix, and now Harry Potter. All NTSC. I have tried both 16:9 and 4:3.

Just finished Harry Potter. Works great in the PC. Works great as a virtual drive too. Copied the virtual drive on the fly and got no errors. When I put the disc in the Toshiba 5 disc changed (which plays VCDs for me) I get a check disc error. Arrrgh.

Here is the log file:
Key found: EE3B9D6253
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- 5/24/2002 6:31:47 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 5/24/2002 6:31:50 PM
- Free on drive C: 19553.35 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
- D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob

Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
Ripping: D:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 2909

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- 5/24/2002 7:12:52 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_6.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_7.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VTS_01_8.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 5/24/2002 7:18:30 PM
- Free on drive C: 17594.70 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -83 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 5/24/2002 7:39:22 PM
- Free on drive C: 17434.77 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -83 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 5/24/2002 9:48:45 PM
- Free on drive C: 17397.44 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 5/24/2002 9:48:52 PM
- Free on drive C: 17397.44 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

Pointers: 4656
- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 148382752
VideoPAPO: 33442668
ScanOffsetBytes: 197252
SeqAligningBytes: 12536467
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Seconds: 9150.18
CalcMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Frames: 219169
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Calculated Quality Value: 80.00
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 148382752
VideoPAPO: 33442668
ScanOffsetBytes: 197252
SeqAligningBytes: 12536467
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Seconds: 9150.18
CalcMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Frames: 219169
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 9993.025
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9639.7465567667
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.0080055838947666
Test Clip: New CQ value: 77.1717997844833
Test Clip3: Calculated CQ value: 78.5858998922416
Calculated Quality Value: 78.59
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 148382752
VideoPAPO: 33442668
ScanOffsetBytes: 197252
SeqAligningBytes: 12536467
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Seconds: 9150.18
CalcMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Frames: 219169
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 9358.0565
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9639.7465567667
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00839767315919087
Test Clip: New CQ value: 80.9514409211623
Test Clip2: Calculated CQ value: 79.7686704067019
Calculated Quality Value: 79.77
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_CQ_TEST.avs
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 148382752
VideoPAPO: 33442668
ScanOffsetBytes: 197252
SeqAligningBytes: 12536467
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Seconds: 9150.18
CalcMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Frames: 219169
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 9277.189
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9639.7465567667
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00859836642399998
Test Clip: New CQ value: 82.8860731295722
Test Clip1: Calculated CQ value: 81.327371768137
Calculated Quality Value: 81.33
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 2307292764
AudioSectors: 148382752
VideoPAPO: 33442668
ScanOffsetBytes: 197252
SeqAligningBytes: 12536467
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Seconds: 9150.18
CalcMPEGStream: 2112733613.10
Frames: 219169
CDSize: 740.00
Cut point 735.00
Test Clip: Got MB per Frame: 10395.521
Test Clip: Want MB per Frame: 9639.7465567667
Test Clip: CQ per Frame: 0.00782330888159786
Test Clip: New CQ value: 75.4147148539053
Test Clip0: Calculated CQ value: 78.3710433110212
Using Quality Value: 79.82
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\tmpg\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 5/27/2002 6:10:58 AM
- Free on drive C: 15352.39 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 5/27/2002 6:11:04 AM
- Free on drive C: 15352.36 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 5/27/2002 6:11:08 AM
- Free on drive C: 15352.36 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3029 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3031
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2885 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5916
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 5/27/2002 6:40:44 AM
- Free on drive C: 13169.69 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3031.066 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2887.393 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
3224.633 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 5/27/2002 6:42:28 AM
- Free on drive C: 13169.69 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
--------------------------------------------------------
- No. of chapters to create: 14

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
--------------------------------------------------------
- 5/27/2002 6:45:37 AM
- Free on drive C: 12424.28 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
--------------------------------------------------------
- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
--------------------------------------------------------
- 5/27/2002 6:48:36 AM
- Free on drive C: 11679.22 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
--------------------------------------------------------
- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBuild_Script_3.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 5/27/2002 6:51:38 AM
- Free on drive C: 10955.92 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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This log file is for Harry Potter.

markrb
27th May 2002, 15:06
Have you checked your DVD player at www.vcdhelp.com to make sure that it plays SVCD's and that it doesn't have any issues?

Mark

fuzzie
27th May 2002, 15:29
I did now...crap!
SVCD is not supported.
Thanks...wish I had gone there before buying it.
What a total waste of time!


Thanks for your help. Great program, crappy Toshiba.

Head Hunter
27th May 2002, 15:45
Not all hope is lost. Try this. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16404)

chainsaw135
27th May 2002, 21:10
@head hunter good link man thanks for taking the time out and doing a search.
@fuzzie if the link that head hunter provided helps you please report back so we know your problem has been solved or if it hasen't ect.

fuzzie
27th May 2002, 23:08
Cool, trying it now.
Got an error in TMPG:

318813 s packets caused buffer overflow. The MPEG file might cause error when it is played.

Got it for each MPEG file.

When I go to make a VCD in Nero Burning Rom, I get a warning:

The mpg file is invalid, need MPEG-1 which was encoded for Video-CD: audio 44.1 mhz stereo; 224kbits/sec; video: 352 x 240/29.97Hz or 352x240/23.976Hz or 352x288/25Hz.
The following problems were found
-invalid video stream: 29.97 frames/second 480x480 pixels

Chose 1) turn off compliance and continue 2) re-encode 3) cancel.

I tried 1 - turn off compliance and continue.
Disc plays in the Toshiba, but is a little skippy and there are no subchapters.

Did I miss something, or more likely, what did I do wrong?

Great link by the way!!

Head Hunter
28th May 2002, 18:27
Try using VCDEasy to prepare the the CD Images, it will allow you to add chapters, and it is easy to use. VCDEasy Guide (http://www.doom9.org/mpg/vcdeasy.htm)

fuzzie
1st June 2002, 13:10
Cool. VCDEasy did create the chapters (works in PC, still doesn't in stand alone...I'm seeing a pattern here).

Thanks for all your help.

May be time to look for a new stand alone...anyone want to buy a new toshiba 2715 5 disc changer?

Head Hunter
1st June 2002, 20:28
Did you select VCD 2.0 in VCD Easy, or SVCD?

fuzzie
1st June 2002, 21:14
VCD 2.0
I must be DVD-challenged!

Head Hunter
1st June 2002, 21:22
Thats actually what you should have chosen, I just thought you may have picked the other one and that was causing the problem.

fuzzie
1st June 2002, 21:29
Now when I go back to try again in VCDEsay, and pick the bbmpeg_muxed_file00.mpg file, VCDEasy analizes it and says it is not a valid movie file.
Weird.