Remove End Credits

[maltesers]

How do I remove the end credits from the main movie? I am trying to strip The Simpsons Season 1 onto a DVD5 but after removing the menu and extras I am still 250mb too big. I just need to remove that little bit more so that i don't have to transcode it (cos it's a lot of hard work :o ) Thanks.

[p3distxii]

Originally posted by maltesers
How do I remove the end credits from the main movie? I am trying to strip The Simpsons Season 1 onto a DVD5 but after removing the menu and extras I am still 250mb too big. I just need to remove that little bit more so that i don't have to transcode it (cos it's a lot of hard work :o ) Thanks.

Use IfoEdit to find which cell ID has the credits and remove it. Use the "Preview" button

[Sepen]

Or use Vobedit and demux cell id's. Pick what you want to kill and join them back together. Very simple to use.

[maltesers]

Thanks to p3distxii and Sepen for your speedy response. Is there any chance of a step by step guide? It's easy when you know how, and I don't know how.:confused:

[Sepen]

Open Vobedit.
Open the vob that you want to edit.
Then demux it, (see at bottom)
press cell id.
put in a diffenrent destination folder.
look at all the small vobs that comes out of it with your dvd program, I use Powerdvd
Decide which ones you want to delete, then delete them.
Go back to Vobedit.
Press edit,join cell vob titles.
point it to that destination directory and open the first vob there.
Press save it.
When it is done rename it to the vob that it originaly was. Like vob_01_8.vob.
Then what I do is rename the original file to vob.old, and copy the new vob that you just created into the original folder.
You can do this with the first vob file also, whixh I recommend because there are logos which are a different aspect ratio which if not deleted cause problems when reencoding.

It is real easy, I am a moron and can do it.

:)

[maltesers]

Thanks Sepen ;)
That was easy!
I have now managed to reduce the size to fit onto a DVD5. Although I had to create new IFOs and get VTS sectors before i could burn it.

[DarkMatter]

This is an immensely powerful tool, now that I sort of no where to start with it. I downloaded it weeks ago but without a guide, I was getting no where. I've tried to look up an VobEdit Guide on Derrow's site but I get a parsing error. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's spending his time on his programs as opposed to wasting talent on Web Master crap. Anyway, thanks.

[Derrow]

Have a look at this guide:
http://mpucoder.dynodns.net/Derrow/parttrans.html

This guide describes how to remux a single cell.
It is almost the same to cut the end-credits, except for the remux-part.

When I've got more time, I'll make an own guide to cut end-credits.

[DarkMatter]

Thanks (again) Derrow! I've saved these pages and hope to clear 20 gigs of stuff I've ripped but needs work off my hdd with the know-how.

[FWMan]

Guys !!!

I use DVTools and chop (truncate)to the size I want.

It takes 30 seconds.

Hope this help.

FWMan.

[solidvob]

Just FYI this is the exact reason why I set up my website that lists movies vob id's by vts set. So people don't have to waste there time previewing different id's when its already done for them. Plus you can make some pretty sweet compilations ....
Check it out
(HINT add .com) for my url ;)

Solid :sly:

[DarkMatter]

I added it to my favorites. Joined netflix so looks like I'm going to need every minute I can save. I'll definitely be perusing your info.

[muralin]

i would luv to see a guide for vobedit. i tried sepen's instructions but it didnt work for me. i am a worse moron :-)

i had to open a demuxed vob file and then do a edit/join. not intuitive.

help

[equilibrium]

As the end credits are often in a chapter on there own is it not possible to use DVD2SVCD with the riponly option, deselecting the last chapter and then use the output from this to run through ifoedit and do the usual bits?

Equilibrium

[Skrycchio]

> Decide which ones you want to delete, then delete them.

Well, in MANY DVD the final credits are in the same cell of the last scene of movie.
If I remove the last cell, I remove also the last scene!

There is any other way to cut off ONLY credits?
Thanks

[2COOL]

I haven't used this but give it a try...SVOBCUT

http://www.open4me.de/svobcut.html

[Mishel]

Chopper is quick and easy for a fast edit, no need to split the audio either, all done in one step.

[equilibrium]

Chopper ? Is it free? do you have an url?

Cheers

Equilibrium

[2COOL]

I haven't use this either but here's the link...

http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/chopper.html

[kdiaz]

chopper won't open a .vob file to work on though

[Skrycchio]

There is a GUI for svobcut?

Using VobSplitter 2.6 I've obtained a VOB not-suitable for authoring.

I've this problem:
the last cell of my video contains a part of movie (about 10 seconds).

I cannot eliminate last cell, because I'll eliminate the last scene of movie.

What kind of SW I can use to trunch only end credits?

I would be able to use this VOB with the other, to use Ifoedit to burn ALL vob files.

How I can do it?
Thanks.

[JayTray]

Alright, forgive me in advance for bein hot under the collar. But I purchased a DVD burner to save time encoding. But it seems every movie is gonna need to be recoded or using 2ch audio over 6ch. I haven't gotten to that point, but I "think" the size difference would be a hundred megs or so w/ 2ch audio over 6ch. Are there any movies out there that don't require being recoded, can fit the menus, 6ch AC3 audio and all the movie (not minus credits)? At this point I wish I stuck w/ SVCD, I don't mind the slight lacking in quality over DVD. Seems to be that every movie needs to be recoded to fit on a DVD-R. What a pain! Anyone wanna buy a new Pioneer A05 for $280..? :P What Waste of time and money.

[Mishel]

The reason that it wont open the VOB is that the VOB that you are working on is made up of many smaller VOB's if you demux the VOB you will then be able to work on the VOB in question.

[drafty]

why dont you just transcode the last vob in the set that contains the credits.
It might only take a couple of hours and you'll still have the complete film....

[MaX_NormaL]

I saw a great and accurate way of doing this somewhere.

Do this assuming the credits don't carry over a chapter point, the only one being the start of the credits. :)

Open the vob in question up in DVD2AVI, use preview and using the slider decide where you want the credits to stop then press [ button. Now save whatever.d2v. Open it in Notepad and look 8 (ish) lines down and find line which says

location=0,xxxxx,xxxx

The first five numbers after the comma is what you want.

Open up scientific calculator and enter the hex mode and type in that number. Change to Decimal mode and you now have the exact LBA of the stop point which you can enter into 'STOP' in vStripGUI, which wil cut to that EXACT point.

Kudos to Vidhack for this method, where I saw it anyway. ;)

[drafty]

or if you use tmpgenc you can just cut the stream where the credits start. Do your remux with ifoedit and it works.

[4point8gig]

I tried following the Max_Normal guide , but hit a brick wall during the Vstrip GUI process.

For 1 I was'nt sure where to add the LBA STOP , i presume i enter the number in seek to LBA ?

anyway ended up with this built command line using the gui

"C:\dvdtools\GUIv0.20j\divxauto.exe" "C:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB" "C:\VIDEO_TS\test.vob" v s343106

then clicked on strip my vob button but got a message box up Auto Select : DivX Low motion 2 100 2000
waiting for ICCcompressorchoose window.

If anyone could offer help on this it would be mooooch appriciated.

thx

[MaX_NormaL]

Originally posted by 4point8gig
I tried following the Max_Normal guide , but hit a brick wall during the Vstrip GUI process.

For 1 I was'nt sure where to add the LBA STOP , i presume i enter the number in seek to LBA ?

thx

Once you have the LBA from the calculator then enter that number in VStrip under input tab where it says End LBA, nothing else needs changing except under output tab which would be the new filename and location.:)

[pwav]

Chopper XP works great for me on my Win XP. However, it took me a few sample test on a .vob file to figure out the " LENGTH ", " MARK IN & MARK OUT ". It didn't come out the way its suppose to be in the beginning when I first tried it.

[killbinladennow!]

i use vobsplit and then creat ifo's

[htc10825]

If you create new ifo's, the original menu will be lost...
I allway use ChopperXP under Windows 2000(YES you read right, not XP) to select exact the scene to be cuted(or saved) and the go into the VOB-Entras in IfoEdit... that's very easy and convenient!
Why? Of you backup the DVD with IC7 and get a slightly oversized VOB-set... That's the solution.

[killbinladennow!]

very true,

but if you dont care for the og menus use my method it is really easy

[htc10825]

If you hate the original menus...
you can still do it with chopperXP(on last vob file) and then create new ifo's...
The advantage is you can see exactly what you*ll get and what you'll cut...

[killbinladennow!]

yes, but my way is better:D :) :sly:

[2COOL]

@htc10825 & killbinladennow!

I don't really use the methods both of you use. But, it's always nice to see what your cutting.;) There's a chance you might cutting at a non I-frame with VOBsplit.

[htc10825]

yes, but my way is betterBy using the vobsplit, it is possible(or most likely) to produce a corrupt last vob unit, not only a corrupt GOP. Some player may hang at that possition. You repeated many times "my way is better" but without telling us the reason - just like a 3-years-old kid!

[killbinladennow!]

htc10825

quote:
just like a 3-years-old kid!

LAMEO! YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOO LAAAAMMMMMMMEEEEEEEE Every on ehas differnt methods! i still like my method abd you are the 3 year old kid HOMO!

[htc10825]

If you are old than 3 you should know when one says "my way is better" one must give his reason but "i prefer my method" dose not need any explaination. There would be no comment if you've said so.

[killbinladennow!]

you are a lameo! and a loser get over it buddy!

[mpucoder]

While we appreciate different views about how to do something here, we do not tolerate poor netiquette. Be polite, or be gone.

[cbloss]

I removed the end credits via vobedit now the only problem I still have is how to correct the IFO to remove the cell I removed. Any pointers on how to do this?

[killbinladennow!]

yeah you can correct .ifos in ifoedit. in the "vob extra" menu but i think you might have to click on "get vts sectors" first then there is a option to correct original ifo.good luck

[Oneiroxy]

yeah you can correct .ifos in ifoedit. in the "vob extra" menu but i think you might have to click on "get vts sectors" first then there is a option to correct original ifo.good luck
I did't think it would have been so easy! I always used to do "create new Ifos" (and then had to change all the info for subpictures and colours and sounds etc. "daft..."). I haven't tried it but it sounds reasonable. Nice one

[Entropy512]

Originally posted by JayTray
Alright, forgive me in advance for bein hot under the collar. But I purchased a DVD burner to save time encoding. But it seems every movie is gonna need to be recoded or using 2ch audio over 6ch. I haven't gotten to that point, but I "think" the size difference would be a hundred megs or so w/ 2ch audio over 6ch. Are there any movies out there that don't require being recoded, can fit the menus, 6ch AC3 audio and all the movie (not minus credits)? At this point I wish I stuck w/ SVCD, I don't mind the slight lacking in quality over DVD. Seems to be that every movie needs to be recoded to fit on a DVD-R. What a pain! Anyone wanna buy a new Pioneer A05 for $280..? :P What Waste of time and money.
Any DVD-5 (single layer) movie should be copyable in full without recording.

UHF is one example of such a movie. Unfortunately other movies need to be split... But I personally consider menus to be unnecessary extras. :)

[killbinladennow!]

you dont have to split all movies if you dont want to. Ever heard of DVD2one?

it will recompress your movie to fit on one dvdr. with bearly any noticealbe quality loss! its good i just did gladiator a 2.5 hour movie. and it looks good to me!!!!

[g2345c]

Sepen,
After demuxed i got 6 vobs, the end credit is 05.VOB
I delete 05.VOB.

Do I have to rename *06.VOB to 05.VOB so that it's in a sequence 01,02,03,04,05.VOB

Thanks
-G2345C

[rockwell]

I use Chopper XP for this purpose. Very accurate and simple to use.

Can be downloaded from http://www.digital-miner.com

[Sp33d]

I use ChopperXP as well. In most cases you can cut off the credits and the movie will fit. Works very well. Not sure if it's necessary but I open the IFO again in IFOedit and do a get VTS sectors.
So far no problems.

[Dimad]

DvdReMake can cut any cell. It could be either end of last one - credits, or start of the first one - intro, or any other cell to cut some comercials. And it will fix everything in vobs and ifo files so that search (fast forward/backward) works fine.

Actually it can even cut motion menu to reduce its size, and (what a surprice :) ) it will still work.

It is not possible at the moment to cut part inside the cell keeping both start and end of the cell.

Added 26 Oct 04: One can split a cell at any place inside it (keeping navigation correct) and use "cut to"/"cut from" to remove things inside.

[jorel]

i don't knew this thread but after the last Dimad post, it came to top and a few hours i post my way to do it...but i can't call as "guide"....works very fine and with free tools.
please, take a look and see if you like it:

http://kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11691

comments are welcome! :) ...(good comments in special :p ..if any)

[2COOL]

@jorel

Basically, the method you proposed is a common technique using DVD Shrink. I'm a little surprised that this method hasn't been mentioned in this thread until now. Anyways, it'll work but the thing about re-authoring in DVD Shrink is that you end up with movie-only backups. There are some people around though that like to retain the menus. Cutting feature just doesn't exist in DVD Shrink full disk mode. :(

[jorel]

ok 2COOL,
you're right when posted:
Originally posted by 2COOL
@jorel
There are some people around though that like to retain the menus. Cutting feature just doesn't exist in DVD Shrink full disk mode. :(


but i was thinked in maltesers and in his first post that want only the main movie without credits and extras like posted:

Originally posted by maltesers
How do I remove the end credits from the main movie? I am trying to strip The Simpsons Season 1 onto a DVD5 but after removing the menu and extras I am still 250mb too big. I just need to remove that little bit more so that i don't have to transcode it (cos it's a lot of hard work :o ) Thanks.

is for who want results like maltesers. :)

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jorel
but i was thinked in maltesers and in his first post that want only the main movie without credits and extras like posted:Reading the first post, you are correct. It's been 2 years since he posted it but this sticky thread's title is sort of misleading as it should contain removal of end credits techniques, whether you do a movie-only or not.

[jorel]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Reading the first post, you are correct.
ok, and i understand that you agree!

Originally posted by 2COOL
It's been 2 years since he posted it but this sticky thread's title is sort of misleading as it should contain removal of end credits techniques, whether you do a movie-only or not.
but i can't argue against the title of the thread that is called: "Remove End Credits" and it's just what i posted:"removing credits from dvds before encode" in the link and this is not OT. about "2 years old sticky" is great. threads like that i can call as "semi-eternal" cos have importants and differents ways to get the solution. the way that i did and post works too.
--> i only encode with D2S ripping the dvds like i posted and always work perfect!
all my explanations here are not again't your opinion 2COOL and i have adimiration and respect for lots of members here and you are one of them.if you think that my post don't work,is irrelevant or is OT,will be my pleasure edit my posts to remove it all without any problem but my idea is to help and "my way"(that i can't call as guide)works perfect following the thread title!
best regards! :)

[blutach]

Since this is a sticky, it's worth updating ppl on what the "state of the art" is.

IMHO, if you don't want menus, DVD Shrink does the job just fine. And if you do, I reckon VobBlanker's the tool for you. Get it from http://www.posunplugged.com/jsoto/.

[blutach]

Display the cast in the credits as a still using Muxman, PgcEdit and VobBlanker

See http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=244783#post244783

Regards

[mdw46]

Why not use dvdshrink start/end feature ???http://www.dvdshrink.info/re-author-advanced.php

[blutach]

What if you wanted the menu? :) There's also a way which I use now to make it fully seamless, as the DVD Shrink actually writes a 2nd titleset (as does PgcEdit). You can actually make your stills, and mux them into a new cell in the title, and not have that annoying 2 second delay as the DVD goes from the end of title back to VMG then onto a new title again.

Regards

[Fishious]

How do I remove the end credits from the main movie? I am trying to strip The Simpsons Season 1 onto a DVD5 but after removing the menu and extras I am still 250mb too big. I just need to remove that little bit more so that i don't have to transcode it (cos it's a lot of hard work :o ) Thanks.
If all you want is the main movie, why not just use Shrink? There's that little double arrow icon in the edit box that lets you chop the front and back of any item you're remastering. Kinda looks like,
<--
-->

on the tool bar. I use it all the time to get rid of credits, join two episodes, etc.

[r0lZ]

If the title you want to cut is in his own titleset, you can even use Shrink in reauthor mode to cut the end credits, and reimport the reauthored title back in the original DVD with PgcEdit's Replace VTST Titles function. (But, since Shrink splits the titles in several titlesets, this method doesn't work if there are several titles in the same VTS.)

[((Pete))]

Does any of the proposed cut-tools offer the feature of fading-out the picture and sound in connection to the cut?

I always backup only the main movie to save space/compression and sometimes need to cut of end credits as well as discussed in this thread, but normal cuts are very abrupt; not a very professional way to end a movie. How can I make fade-outs in picture and sound when cutting of remaining minutes of tedious end credits?

:) Pete

[jsoto]

Interesting...

One method could be:
1.- Extract the cell to be modified (you can use VobBlanker for the extraction)
2.- Reencode video and audio using avisynth and the appropriate filter

FadeOut cause the video stream to fade linearly to black or the specified RGB color at the end. Similarly FadeIn cause the video stream to fade linearly from black or the specified RGB color at the start. FadeIO is a combination of the respective FadeIn and FadeOut functions. The sound track (if present) also fades linearly to or from silence. The fading affects only the last num_frames frames of the video. The last frame of the video becomes almost-but-not-quite black (or the specified color). An additional perfectly black (or the specified color) frame is added at the end, thus increasing the total frame count by one.


Not sure if avisynth is able to reencode the audio to ac3 again...May be you have to take special care with the audio...
3.- Mux again audio and video (Muxman..)
4.- Replace the cell with VobBlanker

For me, the critical (unknown) points are:
- How to make a perfect join in the audio at the begining of the cell?. Mmm... Not easy, some tricks are needed. In any case, one audio frame incorrect won't be noticed at the begining of the credits..... a/v synch cannot be observed..
- How to process the audio?. I need to do some tests..., never tried avisynth as audio processor.

jsoto