Cropping in DVD2AVI question (Green Mile)

[mparkes]

I have been using the great DVD2AVI frameserving guide here (http://doom9.org/mpg/d2a-mpeg2dec.htm) an have used the CROPPING feature to determine how much black space is used top and bottom on 16:9 movies. But I am perplexed a little by the Green Mile. It is supposedly a 16:9 version, but when I go to crop it in DVD2AVI, there is no black anywhere, the movie fille the entire window of DVD2AVI and I can't figure out what the crop should be. ANy help? Thanks!

[vxvas]

if i understood what you said then the obvious answer
is that you don't have to crop the movie.You just have
to resize.

anyway take a look in here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20766

hope i helped. :)

[mparkes]

Thanks vxvas
I will admit I still have some trouble grasping the whole resizing / cropping issue - it just puzzles me how some "16:9" widescreen DVD's show less letterboxing than others (the black bars not being as tall on some movies) - and yet these are ALL 16:9. So how is it that when I view the Green Mile with my standalone player there are black bars top and bottom (however not as tall as on some other DVDs) yet when I preview the movie in DVD2AVI there are NO black bars. I don't get it. Another movie (Pitch Black) had about the same amount of letterboxing with my player, yet DVD2AVI also showed the black bars.

[hakko504]

16:9 movies can be encoded in two way:
As pure 16:9 without black bars. The DVD player will add those when displaying on a 4:3 TV.
or: as 4:3 with the black bars encoded into the picture, effectively loosing 1/4 of the resolution.

Take a look at the sticky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23776) here in the DVD2AVI forum, it might clear up one or two things.

[mparkes]

OKay hakko504, so if this is a 16:9 DVD and DVD2AVI shows NO black borders top and bottom, can I then assume that the correct RESIZE and ADDBORDERS in avisynth would be:

BicubicResize(480,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
?

[hakko504]

Assuming you are making a NTSC DVD: Yes! :)

[mparkes]

I am making an SVCD (23.976 frame rate with a 3:2 pulldown)
Thanks for your help