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viper3344
14th May 2002, 20:32
All I need to do is have a couple of video files (take 3 for instance) play one after another if you choose to play the first one from the menu. Do you only make a button for the fist video file?

I have no problem playing them seperatly on a DVD player, but after each file, it throughs you back into the menu and you must select the next. These are svcd file so they cannot be merged together..

Help! Thankx

Arky
15th May 2002, 04:39
I only use Spruce Up for VERY basic MPEG2 muxing and checking, so I'm not a master of it (I prefer Maestro), HOWEVER, I am fairly certain that SpruceUp will ALWAYS behave as you describe - unless someone has found a very devious workaround, there is no solution to your problem in this program. I suggest you checkout this forum, if no-one else answers your question on Doom9 (although loads of people on Doom9 are more than competent enough with SpruceUp to give you their experience on the issue):

w*w.spruceuserforums.com/ubb/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&category=7

(Do bear in mind that the above link is a GENUINE Spruce link, so if you erm... acquired your SpruceUp by erm.. 'unconventional' means, I would refrain from alluding to this in your posts on that forum.)

Good luck, let me know how you get on.

Arky ;o)

amirkhan
15th May 2002, 10:48
I thought spruceup only ALLOWS one file import, so his multiple SVCD discs wont work. UNLESS he merges them that is...

The other thing is to simply make chapter points but with SPruceUP thats easy. Cant think how he cant control (with SPruce, maestro is ok) how to return to menu after the chapter has ended.

slk001
15th May 2002, 14:23
Why CAN'T they be merged together? TMPGenc can easily do this with its MPEG > CUT/MERGE function. If you want them to play one right after another, you will HAVE to merge them for SpruceUp.

amirkhan
15th May 2002, 16:00
they can, thats what i was sayingh he'd have to do.

ulfschack
15th May 2002, 16:12
I thought spruceup only ALLOWS one file import, so his multiple SVCD discs wont work. UNLESS he merges them that is...

whaddya mean? I've just finished putting six of my old SVDCs on one DVD ... works just fine. Allthough if the could be made to play in a row or not without joining previously i haven't a clue.

amirkhan
15th May 2002, 17:19
but did you have to join them up into one big file or import them as seperate assets?

mikegun
15th May 2002, 18:28
hi,

you can import up to 99 movies into spruce but you cant't play them
in a row. you have to make at least one connection (button -> movie)
it won't be included into the export otherwise !

regards,

mike

Commander XJL
15th May 2002, 19:07
you can have them play in a row if you go to connections and have movie 1 end action set to play movie 2, then movie 2 end action set to play movie 3, ect. I've done this once only but it worked. Also, DVTool will merge SVCD files back together cleaner than anything else I've tried, so clean you can't even tell where the merge point is no matter how close you watch

viper3344
15th May 2002, 23:12
Thanks guys. I'll try it tonight with the exit spruceup thing. The reason that I can't put them back together is because it's a screener of spider man and the third CD doesn't follow a dvd or an mpeg svcd regulation. (long story, patching doesn't help) but I will try it tonight. ALSO!!!! When I demultiplex some files in TMPEG, it on;y gets about half!

EXAMPLE: whatever.m2v (686mb)

Striped to a (300mb m2v) and a (30mb mpa) It's just cuts the video??????? Anytone have this problem?

ulfschack
16th May 2002, 10:31
I've seen it and I always make a rule of double checking anything that has been passed on by Tmpg. Upon failing there I usually have to resort to BBTools or Pulldown to get a proper demux. (Actually I don't know why I even bother with Tmpg for this kind of thing at all).
The other two always seem to do the job right.

Mosaic
17th May 2002, 03:28
Since we're chatting about spruce.....

It tells me it can't directly import ac3 files......grrrrrr.:mad: .

So I have to remux an m2v with the ac3 audio b4 spruce will accept it as an a/v movie.

Fine....

I tried to remux using TmpGenc .....no errors....but spruce doesn't accept the mpg file. Also I can't tell if the ac3 audio is in sync since WMP doesn't play it.....

SO i need a bit of help here

mikegun
17th May 2002, 05:47
hi,

I would never import a muxed stream into spruce.
keep a/v seperated but let have them the same name like
test.m2v and test.ac3. then import the test.m2v and spruce
will import the .ac3 automatically. this also works for mpeg-audio.

regards,

mike

Mosaic
17th May 2002, 23:44
Anyone done S. Wars : the Phantom menace with spruce?

I remuxed the ripped m2v (smartripper) down to size. But upon making the DVD-R 3 things go wrong.

1) Frame stuttering during fast pans. doesn't happen in PC .Seems like a field prob though dvd2avi calls it a 24fps FILM movie.

2) Aspect ratio prob...ppl are stretched a bit.....looks like how a rip m2v plays back in WMP at 1:1 aspect. 16:9 looks stretched.

3) During Sebulba talking his gibberish ...I get no subtitle ...naturally....the Smartrip m2v had none. Question is...how to get it back?

O BTW ..I DID fix the ifo files setting em back to 16:9 b4 I burned.
AND ..if I just play a single VOB with power DVD aspect ratio seems ok.

One thing I did differnt ...I chose 16:9 for the movie in the ifo but I notice that the autmatic letterbox mode is ON for the original and off for my copy ...could that cause aspect stretching?

Otherwise it was great....lol. Another coaster.

viper3344
20th May 2002, 20:36
MOSIAC

Please post a new thread. This is for the problem listed above only.:angry:

viper3344
23rd May 2002, 20:43
Thank you EVERYONE that helped.

For the RECORD: OK he'r goes

1) copied all three video files (.m2v's) to different folders.
2) (TMPEG) Re-encoded ALL three seperatly to:
29.97fps (no audio sinc problems!!?) Worked fine
352X480
Audio to 48000
Checked NTSC option (<- Very important)
ran the pixel and color corrections on each to the max
(Took about 8 hours for each file on an AthlonXP overclocked to 1.8GHZ

The new reencoded files looked small and weired running them in
windows media player. (this is OK)

3) Merged new 3 encoded files with tmpeg (supprisingly worked!)
4) Demultiplexed the now 3.7GB movie file with mpeg2-VCR. Resulting in an .m2v and an .mpa
5) Brought into Spruceup. Spruce accepted the resolution and the audio.
6) Authored: Main menu lets you play the WHOLE movie, and I made a chapter menu.
7) Created an .iso image and burned with Unlead.
8) The DVD had weard resolution issues on an old Pioneer. Worked perfectly on an Apex. Worked perfectly on a Playstation 2. Worked perfectly on portable sony player. (More to come after I test more)

My burner is a Panasonic DVD-R\DVD-RAM burner, and the media is the generic from www.qtccdr.com.

Thanks to everyone and I now have Spiderman in perfect dvd format. (thanks to Tmpeg's pixal and color correction) If anyone has any questions or comments, please reply to thread.

Happy Burning shit!
:cool: :cool: Tony

r47463
1st June 2002, 22:52
Hello viper. I have been following your guide and so far so good :) I'm a bit of a newbie with Spruce Up though and wondered how you got the chapter menu? What I'd like to do is have chapters in my DVD, so that I don't have to fast forward through the whole video every time. Could you guide me through the process of making chapters for Spiderman? Also my resolution is at 720, would I benefit in taking it down to 352? It was a genius idea to merge the files and THEN get the sound back out. I wouldn't have been able to get this far without seeing this thread.

thanks
r47463

viper3344
3rd June 2002, 20:22
All you have to do is drag a menu background pic from the left, to the bar on the bottom. Then right click on the clip movie and go to clip properties. You just move the red flags over and hit the button to put the clips to the menu as buttons.

As for resolution. If spruce doesn't bitch about the resolution when you insert the clip, it's usially OK. I always use 352X480 because most dvd player (including PS2) can decode it.

Feel free to ask any more ?'s

tony

r47463
4th June 2002, 17:14
Thanks. I've just got one more problem when I go to add chapters the slider only goes up to something like 39 mins, which I'm guessing is the length of the first cd. I joined them in TMPG, should I try something else?

viper3344
8th June 2002, 18:43
it means it's not joined right. Try previewing it first outside of spruce to make sure it's all there. If it's not "Mpeg2vcr" is a good merging program.