Question about lame presets

[MoonWalker]

What is the command line of the --alt-preset 256?? I say that cause i want to enocode my songs with stereo and not j-stereo..Can this be done??

Thanks,
MoonWalker

[Sven Bent]

the alt preset is not like --r3mix jsut a bunch of command lines
the alt preset also usses tweak and finetunigsn in the compiles itslef so you CANOT reproduce the --alt-preset with command parameters

you CAN however alter the preset by setting new parameters
lile --alt-preset xxxx --lowpass 16 if you want another lowpass

so using -a-lt-preset -ms shoudl do the trick


but why would you like to encode in full stereo when joint stereso does a much better job. you can (and in this case WILL) actually hurt the quality by encoding in full stereo due to bitrate limitations

[pacohaas]

Originally posted by Sven Bent
[B]you CAN however alter the preset by setting new parameters

lile --alt-preset xxxx --lowpass 16 if you want another lowpass
/B]If you're going to do something like this, you might want to consider -Y instead of --lowpass. For --aps, Dibrom himself consideres this a much better way to lower the bitrate, search for it on hydrogenaudio.org if you need to.

[Sven Bent]

the lowpass was only an eksample :-)

[MoonWalker]

Thanks for your answers....So I use --alt-preset 256 -m s...Will it hurt if I use stereo??I use to encode Metal music...

Thanks,
MoonWalker

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by MoonWalker
Thanks for your answers....So I use --alt-preset 256 -m s...Will it heart if I use stereo??I use to encode Metal music...

Thanks,
MoonWalker Metal music isn't characterized by having two completely different channels (stereo). js should be fine, imho.
btw, why not using a vbr preset instead of abr? i would suggest using the 'extreme' preset.

btw,
what album are you planning to encode ?

[MoonWalker]

Metal music isn't characterized by having two completely different channels (stereo). js should be fine, imho.


SO i'll stick to js..Ok i will try to use the extreme preset..but what is the lower bitrate of this?32??and the max?320??

I will encode :

Blind Guardian - A night in the opera
Tool - Lateralus
System Of A Down - Toxicity
Stratovarius - Infinite

I just bought them and want to secure that they don't get destroyed...
btw Metal music is the less pirated music IMHO..:)

Thanks,
MoonWalker

[pacohaas]

Originally posted by MoonWalker
Thanks for your answers....So I use --alt-preset 256 -m s...Will it heart if I use stereo??if by "heart" you mean "hurt", then yes. There is a reason that the alt presets use joint stereo. Actually many reasons, found through many studies and listening tests, as well as careful coding by the lame developers. Now, the question is: do you think it's wise to go against all these studies and listening tests just because you have this "joint stereo bad, stereo good" mentality instilled no doubt from some crappy encoders (Xing/audiocatalyst comes to mind) or bad/outdated guides? Or do you think it's best to just follow the recommendations of an entire forum/community/project (hydrogenaudio.org) and the lame developers?

edit: hi, i guess you were posting at the same time I was, glad to see you're convinced that LAME js is good now :)

[MoonWalker]

Originally posted by pacohaas
if by "heart" you mean "hurt", then yes. There is a reason that the alt presets use joint stereo. Actually many reasons, found through many studies and listening tests, as well as careful coding by the lame developers. Now, the question is: do you think it's wise to go against all these studies and listening tests just because you have this "joint stereo bad, stereo good" mentality instilled no doubt from some crappy encoders (Xing/audiocatalyst comes to mind) or bad/outdated guides? Or do you think it's best to just follow the recommendations of an entire forum/community/project (hydrogenaudio.org) and the lame developers?

edit: hi, i guess you were posting at the same time I was, glad to see you're convinced that LAME js is good now :)

:)..Yes i mean hurt of course:)..Well I can't argue with all those people...they know something more than me :p...

[DSPguru]

Originally posted by MoonWalker
Blind Guardian - A night in the opera
Tool - Lateralus
System Of A Down - Toxicity
Stratovarius - Infinitesome ppl might argue with you about calling this music 'metal'.. ;)

[MoonWalker]

:) :)...Hmm...IMHO :

Blind Guardian - A night in the opera : Power Metal

Tool - Lateralus : Rock (Actually Tool Rock ;) )

System Of A Down - Toxicity : NuMetal & more :)

Stratovarius - Infinite : Metal...

(A little off topic :) )

Whould you think --alt-preset extreme would be good ??

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