Created Decent VCD from DVD2SVCD files

[MrRochie]

Just wanted to post that I used dvd2svcd version 1.0.8 build 1 to rip a dvd and create all the files using the softwares default settings. Then after it finished, I used the d2v file for the video and and the mp2 for the audio and loaded them in tmpgenc using these settings 352 x 240 mpeg1, 4x3, automaticVBR(CQ_VBR),29.97fps VBV buffer size 40, motion search highest quality, aspect ratio you can choose (I tend to try to keep this the same as the original movie), birate 1150 or you could use the standard VCD template that comes with Tmpgenc. It will convert the mp2 file to a wav then make a mpg of your movie. After that burn with Nero as a VCD. I always like to preview my rips before I burn to check them out. You can probably play around with some of the settings and get it better results but this one was decent quality for a VCD and it will play on my Sony dvp 300 player which usually won't play anything other than VCD standard. Just wanted to post and let people know. It takes a while to make it but it can be done and it worked few artifacts and no sound lagging. Definately watchable....ICQ 11590742

More info for ya....
Note: For the sound encoding to wav I had toolame as my default sound encoder under enviromental settings sound layer2 in Tmpgenc...
If there are better and faster methods please post. I like this method cause it uses kiss technology (Keep It Simple Stupid) basically you put in your dvd, hit go in dvd2svcd, when finished open tmpgenc find the d2v for video and mp2 for audio give your mpg a name load the VCD template hit start in Tmpgenc) 10 to 12 hrs later you get an mpg then burn with Nero.. tada Thanks
:D :rolleyes:

[Buzzard]

This is not meant to be a flame - but I wouldn't buy a DVD player unless I knew it could play SVCD. OK - Maybe you bought the Sony before you realized there WAS SVCD. If I were you I would buy ANOTHER DVD player that played SVCD rather than go through the trouble to make VCD's. If you continue to do this you will wind up with a nice collection of lower resolution movies. You will kick yourself later that you hadn't converted these to SVCD. Some of the APEX players ( and they all play SVCD ) are less than $100. To me it makes more sense to buy an extra DVD player that will play SVCD rather than convert your movies to VCD.

BUZZARD

[itimpi]

I often want to create both a SVCD and a VCD from the same DVD.

What I do is first carry out a normal DVD->SVCD conversion using DVD2SVCD. For this stage I would typically use CCE as the encoder. I then run TMPGENC to create the VCD giving it the .mpg files from the SVCD conversion as both the video and the sound source.

This works perfectly for me. It means that DVD2SVCD has already handled all the awkward things like sound down mixing and synchronisation, NTSC->PAL conversion etc while creating the SVCD, and the VCD stage is a simple re-encode

[MrRochie]

Thanks buzzard and itimpi. As far as the player goes I have had this Sony DVP300 long before there was an svcd format (about 3 years) so eventually I will purchase another. However, for now it does such a good job with dvds that I hate to spend the extra money for another player. I also burn svcd for most of my movies and use vcd for ones that I do not watch on my computer.
Itimpi thanks for the info. I have not been able to get tmpgenc to reconize the bbMPG_muxed_mpg files thats why I used the d2v and the mp2. You doing anything special to these files to get Tmpgenc to work with these files? It gives me an (could not open mpg error every time if I use them straight out of dvd2svcd. It sure would make the conversion simpler and easier....Thanks :rolleyes: :confused:

[dvd2svcd]

Well, then there should be some good news for you in the next dvd2(s)vcd

[RadicalEd]

Wow.. DVD2VCD eh? I'm sure this will make a lot of people even happier DVD2SVCD ;)

On topic;
No no no! You were right to use the d2v Rochie. Itimpi, for shame! Never re-re-encode when you dont have to! :( What your method is doing is creating a VCD from SVCD material rather than DVD material, and this is just no good if you have any sense of pride in your work. That method introduces a very unnecessary and possibly large quality loss.

The only things I would do differently Rochie;
1. Edit the avisynth script and resize there to 352x240, this way you can use bicubic or bilinear resizing (not sure what TMPG uses)
2. Feed the avs to TMPG instead of the D2V, that way if you have telecined source you can get the better 24 fps output using decomb.
3. Use BeSweet for the audio, just make sure it is CBR 224 kbps and 44.1 khz.
4. Mux in BBmpeg as a VCD stream.

Or of course you could just wait around for the next release of D2S (D2V?) :cool:

By the way, just finished my first full conversion using 1.0.8, and it turned out awesome. Thanks for all DVD2SVCD :)

[dvd2svcd]

You can try a beta here. But be warned it is quite possible filled with bugs.

1. Set it to Advanced Level in the Misc. tab
2. Set it to MPEG1 in the misc. tab
3. Hit the default button in the bitrate tab (compliant vcd bitrates)
4. Select VCD resize in the Frameserver Tab
5. Select CBR in either TMPGEnc or CCE.
6. Set the audio bitrate to 224

You can experiment with VBR and other bitrate settings if you want to make XVCDs

[MrRochie]

Your response is woodie es grandie ..... More help even from the dvd2svcd master himself. BTW your software is surperb dude. Thanks again I always like to beta test....:D

[Vitor]

I tried the vcd option today with a small clip.
The permanent subtitles even when I change them to 50% wrere misplaced.
Is it a bug or something I am doing wrong?

@dvd2svcd

[Vitor]

I tried the vcd option today with a small clip.
The permanent subtitles even when I change them to 50% wrere misplaced.
Is it a bug or something I am doing wrong?

@dvd2svcd.. Thanks for your wonderful job.
Vitor

I read it is a BETA.
It is not a complaint is a simple note.
Sorry for double post.

Thanks.

[dvd2svcd]

Yes, I think it is. Thanks for notifying me.

[MrRochie]

DVD2SVCD
I converted a full dvd last night (Godzilla) and it worked fine. (My beta test) This version seems a whole lot faster or maybe it has fewer steps. The only problem I had was that it makes a non-standard VCD which my old SONY dvp300 player won't play without the video being off center. Its actually on the lower part of the screen and chopped off. Any ideas how to fix? I want to try to get the best quality video that will work. Please take this only as feedback for future enhancements. I know you really didn't want to get into vcds but we peeps with old players appreciate it.... :rolleyes: :confused:

[JulCat]

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's always good to be able to create a VCD sometimes.

These will make these program the definitive solution.

[itimpi]

Originally posted by MrRochie
You doing anything special to these files to get Tmpgenc to work with these files? It gives me an (could not open mpg error every time if I use them straight out of dvd2svcd. It sure would make the conversion simpler and easier....Thanks :rolleyes: :confused:
No I am doing nothing special. However I do have TPMGEnc Plus (the version you get if you pay the registration fee) rather than the standard free version. This may affect its ability to handle the MPEG2 format of the SVCD.

[kydongau]

Originally posted by dvd2svcd
You can try a beta here. But be warned it is quite possible filled with bugs.

1. Set it to Advanced Level in the Misc. tab
2. Set it to MPEG1 in the misc. tab
3. Hit the default button in the bitrate tab (compliant vcd bitrates)
4. Select VCD resize in the Frameserver Tab
5. Select CBR in either TMPGEnc or CCE.
6. Set the audio bitrate to 224

You can experiment with VBR and other bitrate settings if you want to make XVCDs

Cool, I will test this with my slide show movie maker avi file.
Althou making the ssmm file into svcd with DVD2SVCD works fine. I could save some times making in vcd format, will see if the quality comparable, I can't think why not, they are only still photos. Previously I have to manually feed the avi file to tmpgenc.

Thanks for this.

[kydongau]

As expected, create photo show with this tools save me a bit of time fiddling around manually with other utilities. I completed the first VCD slide show and my conclusion is, stay with SVCD format if the slide show has lots of fading affect. VCD format is not up to this. There are a number of settings, resizing, VFAPI etc, that I can play with that may improve the quality further, I do not know for sure, your inputs are welcome.

Anyway, dvdsvcd is becoming a killer app. Can we have a tab for SSMM on next version please :)

[Buzzard]

@DVD2SVCD

I downloaded the 1.0.8 Build 2 pre 17
Where you say ...

"4. Select VCD resize in the Frameserver Tab"

I don't see any option to set to VCD resize in this tab - Am I missing something ?

BUZZARD

[MrRochie]

Greets, Yes its under the frameserver tab. On the lower right there is a box that says resize to and a dropdown arrow there. It will give you the vcd option.... VCD(halfsize):rolleyes:

[dvd2svcd]

You need to select Advanced Level in the Misc tab.