Sound-problem with Planet of the apes german ver.

[TKSoft2000]

Hello,
I think you know "Planet of the apes" cause some people have already reported the problem with the DSSD Soundtrack.

OK, I have now used the AC3 stream but have a big problem with it!

When I playback the MP2-Stream I can hear the first 3 minutes without any problems. After this time the 3 minutes do repeat! So the sound doesn't fit to the video-stream.
3 minutes later the sound is correct again.


I have now tryed to recalculate the audio-stream but the problem is the same *grrr*.

What can I do?

THX
TKS

[markrb]

Check all the audio files on your HD to narrow down where the problem might be. These would include:
.ac3
.mp2
Both can be played in Windows Media Player.
If you have bad audio in both of these play the Vob files in a software DVD player and see if there is a problem there.

Also paste your DVD2SVCD_log.txt file and the encoded_audio_log.txt here.

Without more info there is no way to what happened and what made it happen.

Mark

[TKSoft2000]

THX for the fast answer!

The MP2 and the AC3 File are incorrect. I have 7 VOB's and WinDVD only plays the sound of the last two VOB's.
So I can't test the first VOB...


//###########################
//###### DVD2SVCD LOG #######
//###########################
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- 18.04.02 22:25:04
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.8 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 18.04.02 22:25:06
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Programme\DVD2SVCD 108 B4\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Programme\DVD2SVCD 108 B4\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\DVD\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_1.vob,D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_2.vob,D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_3.vob,D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_4.vob,D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_5.vob,D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_6.vob,D:\Dvd1\Vts_02_7.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 18.04.02 22:27:54
- Free on drive D: 8506.68 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x82
Filename: D:\DVD\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -88 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 18.04.02 22:32:46
- Free on drive D: 8190.11 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: D:\DVD\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Programme\DVD2SVCD 108 B4\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\DVD\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\DVD\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\DVD\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -88 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\DVD\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 18.04.02 22:59:40
- Free on drive D: 8031.82 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Programme\DVD2SVCD 108 B4\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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//########################
//###### Audio LOG #######
//########################

BeSweet v1.3b9 logfile.
--------------------------
Logging start : 04/18/02 , 22:32:50.

C:\Programme\DVD2SVCD 108 B4\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input D:\DVD\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 -output D:\DVD\Encoded_audio_1.mp2 -logfile D:\DVD\Encoded_audio_1.log ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -88 ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : D:\DVD\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: D:\DVD\Encoded_audio_1.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:-88] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:-88] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:-88] | Total Gain: 12.3dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:-88] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:-88] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:-88] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:-88] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:-88] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:-88] +-------- SSRC -------
[00:00:00:-88] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:-88] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:-88] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[00:00:00:-88] +-------- 2LAME ------
[00:00:00:-88] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:-88] | MP2 bitrate : 192
[00:00:00:-88] | Channels Mode : Stereo
[00:00:00:-88] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:-88] +---------------------
[01:55:15:336] Conversion Completed !
[01:55:15:336] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 192kbps
[00:26:49:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 04/18/02 , 22:59:39.
//########################

THX
TKS

[markrb]

If you did not use the supplied rippers to rip the DVD re-rip the DVD with only the supplied rippers. No other rippers are supported.
Do not use any other ripper.

The problem seems to be in the VOB files. If you cannot play the audio from them there is probably something wrong with them.

Mark

[TKSoft2000]

I'm using DVD2SVCD for the complete ripp process.
But sometimes I only have time to ripp the VOB's to HDD and not to calculate...
So I rip the files over DVD2SVCD and than I quit the program. Some Time later I restart transcoding.


The complete movie is a little bit exotic...
I'll see if I can extract the AC3 Stream manual over an other program... If not.. I'm saveing 2 CD-R's ;-)

THX

[markrb]

When you select the IFO can you choose another audio stream?
If you can try them all. Just close DVD2SVCD after the audio encoding is done. Then play the AC3 and see if it contains the right audio.

I have been reading around the forum and it seems the Apes DVD is very tricky no matter what country you are in.

Mark

[gerti67]

Hi there,

perhaps I can help you with that because I've done the German version of this movie the other day without any problems.

Ok, you should really use the internal routines with this movie and you have to make sure to select the AC3 audiostream because D2S selects the German SDDS stream per default with this movie.

Then you have to click on the movie length pulldown and the track length pulldown afterwards. Select the 1:54.11 long track not the 1:54.25 one or you will get the bonus features added (encoded) into the movie as this movie uses some kind of seamless branching with the VOBs.

Hope that helps,
Gerti

[TKSoft2000]

@markrb
I'm from germany.
I have 3 tracks with Sourround-Sound avaible. English AC3; German SDDS; German AC3. I used German AC3.


@gerti67
THX for the info but using the 1:54.11 track does't change anything of my Problem.

THX
TKS

[dvd2svcd]

THX for the info but using the 1:54.11 track does't change anything of my Problem.

Did you remember to use the internal ripping (and rip it again from the dvd) when selecting the above track length?

[MOOC]

@gerti67

hiho, i have problems too with the apes dvd - as you can see in the logfile above there is an audio delay of -88 ms. i have the same problem, so how did you fix this?

[TKSoft2000]

@MOOC
I haven't fixed the problem, yet! I haven't got the DVD and so I need to wait until my friend gives me the DVD back.

mfg
TKS

[gerti67]

@MOOC:
I also have the -88 ms Audio delay but this is not a problem this is quite usual for a lot of movies.

Again, all I can tell you is to use the internal routines and to choose the AC3 audio stream not the SDDS one and then choose the 1:54:11 minutes track - for me this resulted in a perfect conversion.

As I still have the VOBs on harddisk I will do a quick CBR test with the new 1.0.9 to see if there's a problem with it and keep you informed.

Greetings,
Gerti

[MOOC]

Hi gerti67,

thx for the answer. But for the better understanding - is your "perfect conversion" with or without the audio delay? In my opinion it´s not quite usual for a lot of movies, mostly i have a delay of 0 ms.

Greetinx,
MOOC

[gerti67]

@MOOC:

This audio delay is from the original DVD source (audio/video streams) and it is quite common with many DVDs I converted (not the same of 88 ms but about in that range). But there's no problem with it as it gets corrected by BeSweet ("-ota( -d -88 )").

Again, this was a perfect conversion.

HTH,
Gerti