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alfa1234
16th April 2002, 12:25
I shall be grateful for a well explained and reliable method for converting svcd burned files to dvd compliant files ready for authoring.
ByronE
16th April 2002, 16:23
There are walkthroughs for a few different methods here (including one that requires no re-encoding of the m2v)
http://www.vcdhelp.com/convert.htm
But for the best speed and quality, I would think using dvd2avi->avisynth->cce would be the best bet, and re-encoding the mp2 to 48hz seperately. Almost the same as the robshot method for dvd transcoding in the guides, but with the addition of doing a resize in either dvd2avi, or avisynth...
alfa1234
16th April 2002, 17:55
Originally posted by ByronE
There are walkthroughs for a few different methods here (including one that requires no re-encoding of the m2v)
http://www.vcdhelp.com/convert.htm
But for the best speed and quality, I would think using dvd2avi->avisynth->cce would be the best bet, and re-encoding the mp2 to 48hz seperately. Almost the same as the robshot method for dvd transcoding in the guides, but with the addition of doing a resize in either dvd2avi, or avisynth...
Thank you for your help.
Since I do not have CCE, I tried the above first method(VCD help), and it worked.The DVD Patcher used there resizes the file and finally is accepted by Spruce as a compatible DVD file.Nero burned it correctly and my desktop DVD Pioneer 525 played it.Any more comments will be welcome
PS. My Pioneer played a 480x480 picture.The above method with Patcher does not resize the file.Any suggestions?
Commander XJL
16th April 2002, 18:12
Alfa, did you use TMPG to join your MPEG2 files and BeSweet to change your audio 48000? I did and my sound went out of sync bad as the movie went on, any help would be great, thanks
alfa1234
16th April 2002, 18:20
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Commander XJL
[B]Alfa, did you use TMPG to join your MPEG2 files and BeSweet to change your audio 48000? I did and my sound went out of sync bad as the movie went on, any help would be great, thank
Hi, I did use TMPGenc to join the files.After demuxing I used SOUND Forge 5 to change to 48000.It worked all right.I do not have BESWEET.Any more help?
Dirkbox
16th April 2002, 18:21
Alfa
You just followed the steps on VCDhelp and it worked.
Now I'm really cheesed off. I've wasted a few DVDr's following the LOTR SVCD2DVD guide on this forum and my file won't play propoly in my Pioneer 525.
I only get half a picture.
alfa1234
16th April 2002, 18:34
Originally posted by Dirkbox
Alfa
You just followed the steps on VCDhelp and it worked.
Now I'm really cheesed off. I've wasted a few DVDr's following the LOTR SVCD2DVD guide on this forum and my file won't play propoly in my Pioneer 525.
I only get half a picture.
I have the same problem(See above reply)Pioneer plays the whole picture only sqeezed to 480x480 format with half a black screen next to it. The trick is to
find a method for resizing the file to 720x480.Patcher does not do it.Any ideas?
Commander XJL
16th April 2002, 20:48
My problem is I used both Soundforge 5 and BeSweet to convert to 48000, and either way the sound gets out of sync bad, other than that everything is fine so I'm pissed because I'm so close and really want to convert some of these movies. As far as converting to 720 x 480 you could just do that with TMPGEnc but it would take longer
alfa1234
16th April 2002, 21:25
Originally posted by Commander XJL
My problem is I used both Soundforge 5 and BeSweet to convert to 48000, and either way the sound gets out of sync bad, other than that everything is fine so I'm pissed because I'm so close and really want to convert some of these movies. As far as converting to 720 x 480 you could just do that with TMPGEnc but it would take longer
Try defragging!
ByronE
16th April 2002, 21:34
yes alpha, theres no way to actually resize the m2v without re-encoding it...which, yeah, seems like a waste of time, which is why I started using CCE. Now, instead of an 11 hour re-encode using tmpgenc, it takes between 2 to 3:30 hours depending on the source...not bad for a 750p3 :) In either case though, your DVD player is always resizing the video, wether its at 480x480, or 720x480...no tv's are actually those sizes. Maybe if you re-write the header to 352x480 instead of 720x480 it wont add the black bars then? I've never actually done any dvds in that res, but it is supported by players...and if you DID re-encode completely, doing so at 352 instead of 720 would at least save you some file space, much easier to add a second movie to the dvd then.
As for audio syncing, COmmander XJL, you might try importing the sudio as a seperate file in spruce without changing the format at all (just be sure to name the audio file the same as the video file and spruce will find it if its in the same dir). Then when you compile, Spruce will convert it on the fly. I did this the first test dvd I made in SpruceUp and it worked. Or maybe try to just convert the audio only in TMPGENC...I made quite a few mp2's in it that keep there sync fine.
Dirkbox
16th April 2002, 22:47
So wgat I'm doing following the header patching guides will not work on my Pioneer 525.
So I tried converting the M2v files with TMPGEnc and ended up getting video file that were 17 min shorter than the audio track.
So I think I'm going to start all over again using another re-encoding guide on this forum (jdobbs).
I would rather have a film that will play on any player rather than just a few.
So is CEE the encoder to use. When I tried rencoding using TPMGEnc the quality was really bad compared to the orignal.
ByronE
17th April 2002, 14:23
How you ended up with a 17 minute difference is beyond me, never had that bad of an offset before...as for quality, tmpgenc can do pretty good quality conversions, but CCE will generally be able to convert the exact same movie to a better quality at the same bps rate, and at the same time you end up with a smaller file size, and it takes like a third of the amount of time as tmpgenc. It's not always the easiest to use, but once you found a system that works with it, it tends to continue working great. I've been using the Robshot method or nearby offshoots of it for the most part, a detailed walkthrough is in the doom guides (getting the best out of cce). Wether or not a video will play in your set top player is not a matter of what you use to encode it with, but more importantly, HOW you encode it, and what authoring and burning methods you use.
alfa1234
18th April 2002, 10:47
Originally posted by ByronE
How you ended up with a 17 minute difference is beyond me, never had that bad of an offset before...as for quality, tmpgenc can do pretty good quality conversions, but CCE will generally be able to convert the exact same movie to a better quality at the same bps rate, and at the same time you end up with a smaller file size, and it takes like a third of the amount of time as tmpgenc. It's not always the easiest to use, but once you found a system that works with it, it tends to continue working great. I've been using the Robshot method or nearby offshoots of it for the most part, a detailed walkthrough is in the doom guides (getting the best out of cce). Wether or not a video will play in your set top player is not a matter of what you use to encode it with, but more importantly, HOW you encode it, and what authoring and burning methods you use.
Having read all the letters and tried all possible suggested methods, I am giving up.The output results are lousy.My unsolicited advice : don"t waste your time convertinf svcd to dvd! Go back to the original material and then do a clean dvd encoding.
There is a wonderful short way of solving ALL the above;it costs $ 250 and it is a program -Womble MPGEG 2 VCR- to be found at www.womble.com.I have just tried it and it converts svcd to dvd(resolution, audio sampling, all) without demuxing.If you can AFFORD IT - FOR ME THIS IS THE ULTIMATE ANSWER.
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