Problem with Anamorphic SVCD's in Ver. 1.0.8 build 1

[SVCDlabels]

Moved to a new thread by request.

I ripped Disney's El Dorado yesterday. I set the aspect ratio to 16:9 anamorphic and used CCE CBR. The encode is PERFECT! Plays well on both my PC and Apex 500.

I ripped The Lost Boys last night, 16:9 anamorphic, CCE 5-pass vbr
and it's trashed. When played on my standalone the video shakes violently from side to side and I'm experiencing color shifts. At first I thought Nero screwed up the burn so I tried Fireburner and it refused to even try, informing me that track 2 was illegal. Next came Blindwrite and while everything checked out fine the resulting disc was doing the same dance. It plays perfectly with PowerDVD and in Daemontools just not on my standalone.

I went straight to the mpegs and dragged them into Nero's SVCD template and same thing.

Here's my info on "The Lost Boys".

Key found: F169122997
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- 4/12/2002 8:40:09 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.8 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 4/12/2002 8:40:13 PM
- Free on drive G: 23053.88 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob

Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: J:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 1799

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- 4/12/2002 9:19:53 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[G:\cd images\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[G:\cd images\VTS_01_1.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_2.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_3.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_4.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_5.vob]
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- 4/12/2002 9:53:24 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.8 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 4/12/2002 9:53:28 PM
- Free on drive G: 18875.05 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: From the start
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- 4/12/2002 9:53:29 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[G:\cd images\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[G:\cd images\VTS_01_1.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_2.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_3.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_4.vob,G:\cd images\VTS_01_5.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

Saving Subtitles
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- 4/12/2002 9:56:17 PM
- Free on drive G: 18874.73 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: G:\cd images\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -87 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 4/12/2002 10:00:09 PM
- Free on drive G: 18607.26 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: G:\cd images\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "G:\cd images\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "G:\CDIMAG~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "G:\CDIMAG~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -g max ) -ota( -d -87 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of G:\cd images\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 4/12/2002 10:11:23 PM
- Free on drive G: 18473.52 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1646953728
AudioSectors: 142293872
VideoPAPO: 23307984
ScanOffsetBytes: 168104
SeqAligningBytes: 10683969
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 1470499791.07
Seconds: 5849.80
CalcMPEGStream: 1470499791.07
Frames: 140087
CDSize: 790.00
Cut point 785.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 140087
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 5
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2011
Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.620
Video Encoding finished.

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- 4/13/2002 4:12:52 AM
- Free on drive G: 17038.84 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "G:\cd images\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "G:\cd images\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

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- 4/13/2002 4:17:23 AM
- Free on drive G: 15638.39 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/13/2002 4:17:25 AM
- Free on drive G: 15638.39 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/13/2002 4:17:28 AM
- Free on drive G: 15638.39 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 785 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2950 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2952
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 785 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 4/13/2002 4:29:04 AM
- Free on drive G: 14068.79 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2952.216 seconds G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2890.632 seconds G:\cd images\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 4/13/2002 4:30:15 AM
- Free on drive G: 14068.78 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 16

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="G:\cd images\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="G:\cd images\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "G:\cd images\VCDXBuild_Script_1.xml"
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- 4/13/2002 4:33:15 AM
- Free on drive G: 13273.33 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 16

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --cue-file="G:\cd images\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="G:\cd images\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "G:\cd images\VCDXBuild_Script_2.xml"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 4/13/2002 4:36:12 AM
- Free on drive G: 12477.56 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\CDIMAG~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
ResampleAudio(44100)



WinXP Professional
AMD XP 1800
256 Meg DDR
DVD2SVCD Ver. 1.0.8 build 1


The only differences between the two DVDs are as follows:
El Dorado is an Anamorphic Widescreen 1.85:1
The Lost Boys is "Widescreen".
Both of these are Region 1

Question is why? s it possible that if the DVD isn't an anamorphic DVD than the anamorphic option in DVD2SVCD won't work?

SVCDlabels
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[markrb]

There is a diference between anamorphic widescreen and just widescreen DVD's. I have been looking around to find out exactly wha tthat difference is, but I have been having no luck.

Mark

[SVCDlabels]

So does this mean that I can only use the 16:9 anamorphic aspect ratio option on DVDs that were originally manufactured as anamorphic?

[SVCDlabels]

Reason #1- I'm an idiot

Reason #2- I redid the DVD without the anamorphic aspect option and had the same results so obviously the aspect ratio had nothing to do with my problem. I had simply assumed it had which leads me to reason #3

Reason #3- I'm an idiot!!

However I will get to the bottom of this. Ripping once more after a few tweaks.

SVCDlabels

PS
D2S donation to follow! Thanks

[Zelya]

Hello!

No, you're not an idiot :) I have exactly same problems with my Daewoo DVD-5700 and 2 DVDs I tried to rip. But I noticed, that if I first insert any DVD, let it start to play movie and then insert my anamorphic SVCD - everything works perfectly!
Did anybody else face this problem?
I now have 4:3 TV, but I hope to buy 16:9 one sometime. And I wonder what variant is better to use - "16:9 encoded like 4:3" or anamorphic setting? I personally think that anamorphic is better because it doesn't waste disk space to hold this black bars. Am I right?

With best regards,
Zelya.

[sandchar99]

@Zelya:

I now have 4:3 TV, but I hope to buy 16:9 one sometime. And I wonder what variant is better to use - "16:9 encoded like 4:3" or anamorphic setting? I personally think that anamorphic is better because it doesn't waste disk space to hold this black bars. Am I right?

You're a little off the subject but you are right about the anamorphic being "better" because it doesn't waste bits on black bars.

But, if you choose, you can set "16:9 encoded like 4:3" and you can always edit the AVS script with a CROP command, adjust your Resize and AddBorders to reflect the crop. Best way to do this is to check "Edit AVS after DVD2AVI". While DVD2SVCD is paused at this point, open up the DVD2AVI project file in DVD2AVI or TMPGEnc and use the crop function just to see how much additional black bar you have to remove (crop), eg 2.35 to fit on a 4:3. Go back to to your AVS script and edit it accordingly. If you press "save" you can then open the AVS file in Windows Media player just to see if your edit was correct.

In this manner, you will not waste bits on black bars and it will play fine on your 4:3 TV.