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Maaij
11th April 2002, 23:20
Hi all

This is the fist time I post in the forum

I am pretty new in encoding and I have read many topic in this forum and many guids on the internet

I learn many things to get a better encode

But I still have some questions

I have a anime and want to encode this to get a better quality
this is an 100 mb avi file

the size is 320x240

There is some noise in this avi, the quality is not very good

I want to encode this to get a better quality

first thing I want is a resolution of 512x384
the final size must be around 200 mb

I used differance filters:

temp. smooth
Resize (bicubic)
smart smooth
wart sharpen
sub

My questions is:

Is this warp sharpen a good filter to use to sharp the avi??
Is it correct to use these filters in this way or can I better risize it first?

Is it better to use chroma noise reduction instead of temp. smoother or use both??

When I add a sub, You can somethimes see some blocks on some letters, Why is that and what can I do to this??

The final question is when I change a higher bitrate the final size will not be bigger

I want to get a bigger final size, What is the best option to get this??

A lot of question and I hope anyone can help me :)

Thnx

manono
12th April 2002, 03:33
Hi-

Don't know if I can give the answer you want to hear. If your source material is a crappy avi, then reencoding will only produce a crappier .avi. There is nothing you can do to improve it (except for maybe getting rid of some of the noise). Upping bit rate, increasing resolution, using filters will not help.

I'd suggest you get a nice looking DVD and try with that. Then you can play around with the filters.

As for the other questions:

Many anime encoders use Smart Smoother and Warp Sharp. But use low settings or you will smooth everything too much. I might suggest 2D Cleaner in place of Smart Smoother because it's much faster.

Blocks in Subs: It happens sometimes when using DivX 3.11-either use Anti-shit in Nandub, or use a different codec (DivX 5 or XviD).

I don't know anything about Chroma Noise Reduction-sorry.

Maaij
13th April 2002, 00:16
ok thnx

Can somebody send me a save file of the nandub settings??

It can help me alot for giving me more info about anime encoding

I know its not always the same settings, but this way its easier to me to learn it

thnx

I dont want to encode from a dvd but from a raw

OUTPinged_
13th April 2002, 15:24
>Many anime encoders use Smart Smoother and Warp Sharp.
never ever use any filters unless you absolutely have to.
and if you need, encode without it first and then try to make _not_ look worse than with filtering.

excessive filtering killed as much encodes as 352x resolution and vitrualdub's "blend" deinterlace.


mamono, please stop suggesting filtering to newbies. they will end up with better output without it in 90% of cases.


*sigh*.

these anime related questions are getting out of hand. everyone seems to be asking same things over and over again.

manono
14th April 2002, 02:29
Hi OUTPinged_

I'm afraid I have to respectfully disagree. I'm very sensitive to mosquito noise around lines and subs, and will do what I can to lessen it, even at the expense of smoothing the backgrounds a bit. While some finely drawn anime (Mononoke or Kenshin OVAs, for example) will be hurt more than others by the use of smoothers, many will be improved with their careful use.

I don't think I said anything obviously wrong, though. I didn't suggest using the filters- he did. Many do use the smoothers, and I did warn against using them at anything but low settings.

It's just a question of priorities, I guess. I think your suggestion of doing it first without smoothers is a good one, though.