Subtitles and Ifoedit/CCE method

[SoujiroTheTenken]

After importing the subtitles into scenarist and remuxing the vobs, i play the scenarist result with powerdvd and the subtitles are there. But after copying the cell data from the scenarist generated Ifo to the old Ifo the subtitles are no longer white bordered by black (3 4 3 3). Rather they are black in black. This leads me to believe that in the Ifo there is subtitle color data in there somewhere which must be copied over as well. I moved the Vobs back and forth under the new and old ifo and confirmed it must be a value in the old Ifo that is giving me the black with black border instead of the scenarist white in black border. This makes the subtitles unreadable. If anyone can shed light on this it will be greatly appreciated.

[Doom9]

are you sure you didn't overwrite anything? do the subs look okay in the scenarist generated output? if you only copy the chapter lines (I never tried the hex edit stuff described in the sticky cce thread.. I'm waiting for derrow to add such a function as I think hex editing is a bit too complicated for the average user).

[SoujiroTheTenken]

subtitles are no longer white bordered by black (3 4 3 3)

thanks for the quick reply doom9. The subtitles are okay in the scenarist generated version (White with a black border). I used hexedit to copy and paste from the First Cells BCD to the last cells ending sector. This should in no way affect the subtitles, since im only editing the PGC info. I tried matching the two ifo files in any subpicture data i can find. Usually the differences were trivial and did not work.

[Eyes`Only]

I had this problem with a movie I did also. The trick is the copy the color data from the reauthored ifo into the original ifo. I am away on business so I don't have my ifo's available to find that area for you, but it wasn't too difficult for me to find. Look for some area in the ifo that that has subtitle color codes in sets of 3 bytes (about 10 sets of em) and copy those bytes from the new to the original.

Hope that helps!

[Eyes`Only]

OK I found the exact changes you will need to make. You need to copy the color data from each PGC in VTS_PGCITI. The data is in rows three values and looks like the following:

Color 0 Y Cr CB xxx xxx xxx
Color 1 Y Cr CB xxx xxx xxx
...up to

Color 15 Y Cr CB xxx xxx xxx

Since subs are usually only in movies with 1 PGC, this shouldn't be too hard. Once this is done, your subs will have the exact same colors as you saw when you previewed them with PowerDVD.

Happy subbing!