video is too long

[molmik]

I've been using Gordian for a while without any problem. So far I've made movies not longer than 2 CDs. I've just started to convert a movie into 3 CDs but I'm not able to do that. After the first run I can not load Nondub stat file (103 I/O error. If I do the two pass simultaneously ending up with no movie and getting an error message saying avi is too big impossible to calculate?
I set everything the same way written in protocols. What could be the problem. PLZ help me out!
Thanks!:(

[jggimi]

Windows 95, 98, and ME maximum file size is 2GB. Windows NT, 2K, and XP do not have this restriction, when your disk partition is formatted NTFS. If you're on a Windows 9X-based operating system, or you upgraded without reformatting, this could be your problem, as 3 x 700 MB would be 2.1GB...

[jggimi]

Searching through your posts, it looks like you recently upgraded to W2K. If you did an upgrade, rather than a new install, your disk partition(s) may still be FAT32 or older formats, rather than NTFS.

[molmik]

Well, the system is located under a fat32 format while the movies stored and ripped on NTSF formated drive.

[jggimi]

The symptom you described matches a FAT32 problem. Perhaps there are temporary files created on the system disk. I don't know, but that might be the case. I see two possible solutions: 1) re-install GKnot on your NTFS partition, and see if the problem goes away, or 2) use the "convert" command on your system partition.

[molmik]

Well, I've converted the system parturition to NTSF and the problem is still persist. After the first run I can not load the NanDub stat files to Gordian. I/O error 103. What a hack is it???
Now I'm runing the first pass directly with NanDub, making the stat files and try to load it into Gordian or use NanDub to make the avi file.

[molmik]

I've created the stat using Nandub directly. Tha stat files can not be read into Gordian, however Nandub runs perfectly with it during the second run.
Is any body understand this????:(

Thanks

[yoyomama79]

molmik,

I'm having the exact same problem as you -- trying to make a 3CD movie with GK. The movie "Lagaan" is almost 4 hours long, so I have no choice but to make a 3CD rip. I'm running WinXP NTFS, so the file system is not the question -- seems like a bug of some kind on GK. If you could elaborate on what you did, though, I'd really appreciate it -- the first pass made the stats file, but I can't get Nandub to open that file in any way. Do I have to re-encode using Nandub all over again? Is the .stats file useless?

I've used GK many times, but never Nandub...thanks...

[manono]

Hi-

I think what molmik was saying is that he wound up not modifying the stats file in GKnot but entering it directly into Nandub, and using the Nandub settings to run the second pass. If you understand the Nandub settings, then you can do it that way without rerunning the first pass.

I encoded also Lagaan recently (as an American I never thought I'd enjoy a cricket match so much). I also got the I/O Error 103. I wound up doing about half the movie in each of 2 passes. Then I could enter the stats files separately into GKnot, encoded the 2 halves of the movie separately, merged them and added sound, and then split into 3 CDs.

[molmik]

I shall paste what manono wrote to me about this question. Try to search "error 103" in this forum and you will see some topics discussed about it. So the letter:
"Wow-you did some searching to come up with that old thread. I got another one of those 103 errors sometime later-this time the movie was quite long (nearly 4 hours, and I'm not positive the problem was at the layer change, but doing the first pass in 2 stages worked on that one too). Actually, I'm not positive I actually split it at the layer change, but what I did, worked.

So try this-If you still have the DVD, then rerip with Smart Ripper. This time rip by chapters. Keep it in movie mode, and rip half the chapters and put them in a folder called movie 1 or something. Then rip the remaining chapters and put them in movie 2. That's what I did with the movie I mentioned in the posts.
If you no longer have the DVD, then just take half the vobs and make 1 .d2v, and then do the same thing with the remaining vobs. If DVD2AVI insists on taking all the vobs together, then split them into 2 different folders. That's what I did with the second movie. Or use those [ ]things in DVD2AVI to make 2 different .d2vs from the complete set of vobs. Make 2 .d2vs and run 2 first passes.

Then, assuming that works, you want the final quality of the 2 .avis to be the same, so make sure the 2 stats files have equal quality. That is, say you're making a 1 CD rip. You'll initially set up each .d2v for 350MB. Then look at first pass compared to second pass when you load the stats file into GKnot, and juggle file sizes and bit rates among the 2 halves of the movie until the percentages are equal(don't forget to allow for the audio). So you may wind up with one half at 325MB and the other at 375MB.

Then use the Append command in NanDub to join the 2 halves when you're done (By the way-make sure the resolution is the same between the 2 halves).

As for the sound-if you already have the sound for the whole movie, and don't feel like redoing it in halves, then you'll have to estimate how much each part is going to have. Or, you can take the AC3 from each part of the movie when you make the 2 d2vs.

manono "

What I did:
I've split the movie into 2 parts making 2 x d2v files and 2 x ac3 from vob files created by Smartripper. You can calculate the final avi sizes considering the ratio of the 2 parts. Run separately Gordian using part_a.d2v and part_b.d2v and make the 2 avi files. Join them and cut into 3 CDs. It should work. It worked for me.
The othes possibility: Use Nandub and make the avi with it. It runs perfectly dose not give error message, however the final avi size can be different from the desired one.

Good Luck

[manono]

Hi molmik-looks as if we posted at the same time. I'm glad it worked out for you.

[yoyomama79]

Thanks for your help, guys. I don't have the DVD anymore, but I do have the vobs, so I'll try to put them in different directories and create a pair of .d2vs. Thanks again!

[molmik]

Well, it worked fine for me however there is no logical explanation for this behaviour of Gordian. I've tried to make avi from a longer movie "The Godfather" without any problem.
It would be nice to compare the stat files made by Gordian and Nandub. I think there is an editor to modify the stat file. Could you tell me where I can get it from?

Thanks again!

With my warmest wishes,

Molmik