CCE freezes at 12 percent! [Archive]

moviemandvd

11th April 2002, 00:13

Ok i tried encoding this movie twice now and both times it just stops CCe at 12 percent complete. here is my log file!

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- 4/8/2002 11:37:47 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 4/8/2002 11:37:51 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -IA=1 -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_1.vob,D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_2.vob,D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_3.vob,D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_4.vob,D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_5.vob,D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_6.vob,D:\SVCD.DVDRIP.Mind_lapS\TO ENCODE\SEXCITY_VOL1\VTS_01_7.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Hybrid Film activated. IVTC will beformed and will slow down the entire process!
Framerate: 29970
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 4/8/2002 11:42:41 PM
- Free on drive C: 21185.52 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -38 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 4/8/2002 11:47:49 PM
- Free on drive C: 20982.08 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting Audio to MP2. Filename: C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal ) -ota( -g max -d -38 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\DVD2SVCD\movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 4/9/2002 12:02:43 AM
- Free on drive C: 20846.42 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2501804592
AudioSectors: 144194904
VideoPAPO: 36520632
ScanOffsetBytes: 255714
SeqAligningBytes: 16252045
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 2304581284.67
Seconds: 8891.85
CalcMPEGStream: 2304581284.67
Frames: 213095
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 213095
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 500
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2073
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- 4/9/2002 12:29:41 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 4/9/2002 12:29:43 AM
- Free on drive C: 20836.98 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
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- 4/9/2002 12:29:45 AM
- Free on drive C: 20837.02 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2501804592
AudioSectors: 144194904
VideoPAPO: 36520632
ScanOffsetBytes: 255714
SeqAligningBytes: 16252045
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 2304581284.67
Seconds: 8891.85
CalcMPEGStream: 2304581284.67
Frames: 213095
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 213095
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 500
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2073
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- 4/10/2002 3:07:10 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.7 build 4
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 4/10/2002 3:07:13 AM
- Free on drive C: 21295.58 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
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- 4/10/2002 3:07:15 AM
- Free on drive C: 21295.56 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2501804592
AudioSectors: 144194904
VideoPAPO: 36520632
ScanOffsetBytes: 255714
SeqAligningBytes: 16252045
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 2304581284.67
Seconds: 8891.85
CalcMPEGStream: 2304581284.67
Frames: 213095
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 213095
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 500
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2073

mrbass

11th April 2002, 03:08

you've tried safe encoding? You've checked for zero time length chapters when ripping it?

Reptile-X

11th April 2002, 03:39

Try another bitrate setings, it does help by me if i get this kind cce hangs...

moviemandvd

11th April 2002, 21:18

Ok, just lowered max and avrg. bitrate and it still froze at 12 percent. Mr brass what is it that you wanted me to do?

chainsaw135

11th April 2002, 21:30

@movieman what mrbass wants you to try is "safe mode" in the dvd2svcd encoder tab click on "safe mode VFAPI slow!" and then run your encode ,it has been know to solve some crashes with CCE.

Also do a search on "cce crash" and you should get tons of ideas on things that have helped others.

dvd2svcd

11th April 2002, 22:34

Actually I'd rather you tried the Avisynth I attached in this message (please).

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=115764#post115764

P.S. This wouldn't by any chance be Shrek you're trying to convert, would it?

moviemandvd

12th April 2002, 07:00

ok ill give it a try....no its not shrek, its The season episodes of the HBO show "Sex in the city". thanks for the input!

moviemandvd

12th April 2002, 19:41

yep it worked...what was that about?

marie

12th April 2002, 20:57

I am converting avi to SVCD

It did freeze (CCE) twice at 24%

But it did not give me any errors at all :( It just stopped from encoding

Did the dll thing worked for you? What is that and where do i put it on my pc?

Thanks

dvd2svcd

12th April 2002, 22:06

You must put it in the system32 folder (found in your windows folder)

marie

12th April 2002, 22:43

Thanks mr author

I am currently doing this VFAPI method and it slows down the encoding by 50% :(

Ill see first if that will work, if not, I wll try that dll thing

This never happened to me before, avi and DVD rips to SVCD, all went ok except this time

marie

13th April 2002, 20:17

Tried the new dll file or VAFAPI, still CCE did freeze at 24%. so weird

I am trying to use tmpgenc as encoder to see if it will stop again :(

dvd2svcd

13th April 2002, 20:35

Try making an AVS script with this word only:

version

Play it in mediaplayer and tell me what version it says.

marie

13th April 2002, 21:39

K havent done this before but do i create a file in notepad, type in version and save as filename.avs and play on Media Player? Because it didnt work

Sorry. dont know what exactly to do :o :o

dvd2svcd

13th April 2002, 21:53

Yes that is the way to do it. I bet you can't get it to work because it has a hidden .txt extension. Change your folder settings so you can see the extensions, and remove the .txt and try again.

marie

13th April 2002, 21:58

Actually it is really avs file not avs.txt

That is what Windows reports and i know it is avs too because when i saved it as in notepad, on the drop down that says file types, i selected the *.* so it will be .avs instead of .avs.txt

Media Player says it cannot play the file format

I am on WindowsXP.

The dll file i downloaded in one of your posts, i extracted it to sysmtem32 and system overwriting the current file

moviemandvd

13th April 2002, 21:58

the file that you had me dl i did not put in the system32 older. I placed it in the avisynth sub folder in dvd2scvd folder. Just replaced the new one with the old one. It worked fine after i did that.

marie

13th April 2002, 22:00

Really?

Mr Author told me to place it in system32 but I might try that suggestion to see if CCE will work fine :)

Right now, it is encoding using tmpgenc and I will let this finish first and then try CCE again

markrb

13th April 2002, 22:15

The file that is used is in the windows/system32 folder or windows/system folder. If you have another dll floating around there is the chance the system could use that one. It's not suppose to, but it does happen. Do a search on your HD for the AVIsynth.dll and erase everyone, but the one in the system32 folder or rename all of them to avisynth.dll.old so the system cannot become confused.

When you save a notepad file make sure you have "all files" selected and not txt when you save it. When you have txt selected as the file type it will append the .txt extension even if you tell it not to.

Mark

marie

13th April 2002, 22:19

Originally posted by markrb

When you save a notepad file make sure you have "all files" selected and not txt when you save it. When you have txt selected as the file type it will append the .txt extension even if you tell it not to.

Mark

Yes, thats exactly what i did

marie

13th April 2002, 22:27

OK the avisynth.dll i downloaded from DVD2SVCD post is 200K

I searched for those files and found the following

C:\Windows\System 32 (200K)
C:\Windows\System (200k)
C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth (192K)
C:\WINDOWS\system32\AVISynth (192K)

So i guess the last two are using the old version of the dll....

chainsaw135

14th April 2002, 00:22

The file that is used is in the windows/system32 folder or windows/system folder. If you have another dll floating around there is the chance the system could use that one. It's not suppose to, but it does happen. Do a search...........

I had to do just that, even tho i copied the new dll file in to dvd2svcd folder and it did an overwrite of the old dll my system was still accessing the old dll file causing me the same problems, trust me the new avisynth.dll has alot of bug fixes.

edit: you are correct mary the new latest .dll will be (200k) the old one was (192k)

dvd2svcd

14th April 2002, 09:01

Marie: Ok, maybe mediaplayer was a bad suggestion to test it in since you're using XP. Could you try opening the version.avs in VirtualDUB or even TMPGEnc. In both you should be able to see the current avisynth version.

marie

14th April 2002, 17:14

I opened it up with VirtualDub and it says Avisynth v 1.0 beta 5

dvd2svcd

14th April 2002, 17:28

Then you are not using the version I directed you to use. Did you download the attachment from the other thread? Did you extract it into your c:\winnt\system32 folder. Otherwise, do as the others did, make a complete search on all your drives for avisynth.dll and delete/rename all you find. Then extract the avisynth from the downloaded attachment. After that try loading the version.avs in virtualdub. It must say 1.0 beta 7d before you have installed the right version.

marie

14th April 2002, 18:45

Yeah i deleted the ones i searched and then replace with the new one..then the version has been changed when viewed with virtual dub...

thanks Ill give it a try :)

moviemandvd

17th April 2002, 21:48

Ok I did the next movie that i wanted to encode, already had the vob files on my computer. Got to about 32% in CCE and CCE froze. XP did not freeze, just cce. I have the new avisynth.dll (200kb) and it exist in only one spot (windows\system32) what else would be causing cce to freeze. Should i play around with the bitrate settings? thanks

markrb

18th April 2002, 00:15

We seem to be back to the old CCE freeze issue. Do a search on CCE freeze or CCE crash. There must be fifty posts on this issue. It's pretty common. We thought the new dll might solve it, but in your case it obviously doesn't.
A quick and dirty summary of what you will find.

Nobody knows what causes it and everything is just a guess.

If you have 2 sticks of ram remove 1.
Slow all you memory settings in your bios to a more stable setting.
Try another movie. Some movies are known to make this worse.
If the credits are there own chapter re-rip without them.
Try using safe mode and CCE 2.5
Try using safe mode and CCE 2.62
As a last option try TMPG.
Run the Prime95 torture test
Run the stress test created by DDogg
Run a memory checker like gold memory or mem86
If you OC slow the system down
Make sure you have resample audio checked on the frame server tab

Some people just cannot get CCE to work and nobody knows why. This was the main reason TMPG support was added.

Mark

ShinerSpoon

18th April 2002, 00:46

Now try the mpeg2dec2 that tom berry worked on.

Put it in your dvd2svcd\mpeg2dec directory then go to the frameserver tab and choose this one instead of the old one. Note that this one has a 2 on the end of it.

markrb

18th April 2002, 01:59

I would rename it to the same as the old one if you decide to try it to insure DVD2SVCD has no misses on the file. Many programs depend on many others and you never know what could screw up.

Mark

ShinerSpoon

18th April 2002, 02:07

Nope, it works fine as mpeg2dec2. That keeps it clear in your mind what is what. Just change the line in the frameserver tab.

gldblade

18th April 2002, 04:14

What's different in it?

markrb

18th April 2002, 05:36

I always just keep the old dll in the same directory, but name it .old. You could always forget to change it and the fewer dll's hanging around the better in my mind.
This way he also doesn't have to know how to edit an avs file.
Either way works I guess.

Mark

ShinerSpoon

18th April 2002, 13:39

@moviemandvd
just to make sure please consider creating a text file in notepad with just the word VERSION in it. Save as version.avs and play it in media player (MP6.4 is best). Let us know what it says.

Also, it would be great if you could install this newer mpeg2dec and run the process on the SAME movie you had a freeze on above.

@glblade
See the thread on dvd2avi in that forum. There is a lot of info there. Second to last page I believe.

@markrb
This way he also doesn't have to know how to edit an avs file.
??? In the readme for dvd2svcd you will notice support for mpeg2dec2. I don't know why you would think the avs would have to be edited.

moviemandvd

18th April 2002, 17:32

Ok, I used the new mpeg2dec2.dll file and still froze exactly at 32 percent. I tried creating that version.avs file and played it with tmpgenc, it gave me illegal stream error. It didnt play in media player but that prolly because of XP. I really dont think that this freezing is because of my system. I just made a brand new system. Its got 1.4 ghz tbird and crucial memory designed for the MSI board that i have. any other suggestions?

markrb

18th April 2002, 18:02

Actually it is your system. It can seem 100% perfect, but there is something slightly off. Most things don't care and that is what error control is used for, but CCE does care.

Have you tried a different source? Have you tried everything I asked you to yet? You don't mention the results of any of the tests. You don't mention if you tried it after removing one of the memory sticks. Try these things and post back. Unless you try what we suggest what is the point of asking for help?

Nobody knows what causes it and everything is just a guess.

If you have 2 sticks of ram remove 1.
Slow all you memory settings in your bios to a more stable setting.
Try another movie. Some movies are known to make this worse.
If the credits are there own chapter re-rip without them.
Try using safe mode and CCE 2.5
Try using safe mode and CCE 2.62
As a last option try TMPG.
Run the Prime95 torture test
Run the stress test created by DDogg
Run a memory checker like gold memory or mem86
If you OC slow the system down
Make sure you have resample audio checked on the frame server tab

Some people just cannot get CCE to work and nobody knows why. This was the main reason TMPG support was added.

Mark

moviemandvd

18th April 2002, 18:07

Im not overclocked, i only have one ram stick, credits are not there own chapter, resampled audio is checked, where can i get the prime95 test and is it made for xp? gold memory doesnt work for xp.

markrb

18th April 2002, 18:11

Gold Memory uses a boot disk.

Do a Google Search or read the Q + A.

What about mem 86, did you try that?

After everything there is always the chance you cannot use CCE. Some computers, yes computers even new ones, just won't work with it.

Mark

ShinerSpoon

18th April 2002, 18:16

It didnt play in media player but that prolly because of XP

Right click on the avs file and select "open with">"choose program" and select the older mplayer 6.4 in the list. I think it is important to know the version of avisynth you are using.

markrb

18th April 2002, 18:28

I have XP and can play the AVS files fine in Media Player.

I always install some software before I start working so I wonder if one of these installs something to help it work?

I always install WinDVD and I always make sure I am completely up to date on all Microsoft Updates.

If that does not work do like ShinerSpoon said the older media player works.

Make an avs file that only has the word version in it and see what it says. Just open up notepade type version, save it as test.avs and make sure where it says to save it as a txt file you change that to all files. Then right click on it and open it with media player. If that doesn't work open it in the older media player in your \program files\windows media player directory

Make sure it says 1.07D. If it plays the 1.05 version make sure you only have 1.07D named dll.

Mark

moviemandvd

18th April 2002, 21:46

yep. its the 1.07D.

moviemandvd

19th April 2002, 02:16

Ok, just tried another movie and this time it froze at 66 %. Could someone give me links to some of the memory tests made for XP?

moviemandvd

19th April 2002, 18:55

anyone? i will run the cce stress test when i get back on suday, i would like to run those memory tests though. I havent been able to find them though. links would be appreciated. thanks

markrb

19th April 2002, 20:25

Mem 86 is linked in the Q + A. Goldmemory is at www.goldmemory.cz

You may want to try and make your memory timings less aggresive in your bios.
What motherboard do you have(specific make and model)? I will see if I can find some info on it and make some suggestions.

I have to stress that while all of these tests are helpful there are some people and some movies that just don't work on some computers with CCE.

I know how I would feel if I had these types of problems and I would hate it and be so frustrated.

Mark

moviemandvd

22nd April 2002, 00:23

Ok, I thank you Mark for your time and for understanding. I will run those programs tonite and determine if the memory is bad or incompatable(which it shouldnt be since it was designed for my board(MSI K7T 266 Pro). what would i do as far as making the memory setting in the bios less aggressive? thanks

markrb

22nd April 2002, 02:18

Not meaning any slight, but you said you just got this board. I am curious since this is an older motherboard. The 266 chipset has been replaced with the 266a and now the 333. Did you just do a typo and mean the Pro 2? If it is not the Pro2 I would return the board. The 266 chipset had many bugs in it and the 266a blows it away in speed.

Have a look at this and make sure you are at the safest(slowest) settings.

I am assuming you mean the PRO 2 since the pro is an older board. If you did mean the PRO 2 have a look at this step by step setup guide including the bios settings. Pay close attention to the advanced chipset section.

http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82226

I hate to say this again, but some computers just don't work with CCE.

I also have to say I highly doubt that memory was specifically made for that motherboard. I know Crucial and they have a list of compatibile memory and I am sure that same module will be listed for my motherboard as well.

I did not say the memory was bad or incompatible. What I said is that the memory timings(controlled by the motherboard) could be off a little. For 99.99% of programs this is not an issue, for CCE it is.

Mark

moviemandvd

22nd April 2002, 02:46

nope, it is the PRO board. I bought this board off of a friend cause my old board blew up. So they sold me this one. its shit you say? what should i do? should i try flashing the bios?

markrb

22nd April 2002, 03:04

It's not crap, but the 266a is a much better chipset. Faster too. If you bought it off a shop or something then I would say to you return it, but since you bought it off a friend you probably got a good deal and the chipset does work, just a bit on the buggy side.
For the right price I would buy one.

Check that reference anyway. Since your friend had it first he may have tweaked it a bit. Most of the settings will be the same between the two boards. The only one I think is missing is 4 way interleave, but with 1 stick that makes no difference anyway.

Make sure you don't have 1T on that it's either off or at 2T
Make sure the memory is set to CAS 2.5 and not CAS 2

Their are others, but they are listed in the guide I linked to above.

You might want to flash the bios. That's always a good thing if there is a newer one out, but make sure you know what you are doing. A bad bios flash and you are hunting down a new bios chip.

All of this is grasping at straws. Agian some boards just won't run CCE.

If you can't get it to work in regular mode have you ever tried checking off safe mode on the encoder tab? It is slower, but some people are able to get this working when they can't get regular mode to work.

Mark

moviemandvd

22nd April 2002, 06:20

So what test would i run to determine exactly what the problem is? If this helps at all, my system has been doing a whole lot of restarting on its own. It happens at different intervals and at different times. Does this sound like a memory problem to u? i looked in the bios and the only options for ram are:

Configure SDRAM timings by :SPD
SDRAM Frequency :SPD (SPD,HCLK, or HCLK-33 i have SPD selected)
SDRAM CAS# Latency :2.5
SDRAM Bacnk interleave : Disabled
SDRAM 1T Command : Disabled

If I no for sure that its the board causeing me all this trouble ill just sell it and get a newer one. But i need to no for sure that its the board, so if you have any good solutions to determine the exact problem then i would like to no them. I need cce to work so ill do what i have to. Thanks so much!

dvd2svcd

22nd April 2002, 07:25

It is not your hardware, not when it stops a 66%. You're using a CCE 3 pass right. Well, the problem is most likely the end credits. I bet they have a lot of black background. Black = High Bitrate = CCE freezes of unknown reasons. As a lot of people know, Shrek is one of those movies that almost always freezes CCE and yesterday I finally got my own Shrek DVD and I started to experiment. And I succeded in encoding it by doing it this way:

1. Download Tweak.dll from Donald Grafts homepage.
2. In the frameserver tab select "Edit avs as part of the encode.
3. When the AVS edit box pops up, just press save (not ok, not yet).
4. Open the AVS in VirtualDUB.
5. Move forward until the end credits starts. Write down the frame number. Move to the end of the movie and write down that frame number too.
6. Go back to the Edit AVS window.
7. Change it to this:

LoadPlugin("D:\MULTIM~1\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("D:\MULTIM~1\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("D:\Multimedia\Tweak\Tweak.dll")
mpeg2source("G:\Shrek\DVD2AV~1.D2V").Trim(0,EndCreditsStartFrame).SimpleResize(480,432).AddBorders(0,72,0,72) ++ mpeg2source("G:\Shrek\DVD2AV~1.D2V").Trim(EndCreditsStartFrame+1,LastFrameOfMovie).SimpleResize(480,432).AddBorders(0,72,0,72).Tweak(bright=50)
ResampleAudio(44100)

8. The bold text is what is important. Hit ok and you should be able to get your rip. It might seem a little difficult, but it is infact quite simple.

moviemandvd

22nd April 2002, 07:46

You are right that it is odd for it to freeze at 66 percent. it was 3 pass. And another movie i did 3 pass froze at 32 percent. im gonna run the torture test tonite and then try encoding another movie. we will see what happens. thankyou dvd2svcd.

markrb

22nd April 2002, 09:06

A computer rebooting on it's own is defenitely a real problem. I run my computer for weeks at a time without rebooting. It should never reboot on it's own. There is a serious problem if it does.

However it could be many things. Is there any error or blue screen?
Do you happen to get IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL to error then it reboots?
According to Microsoft and from all of my own tests this is a hardware issue. Most likely memory related. You must stop the computer from random reboots.

What size power supply do you have? If your power supply is less the 350 watts I would definately upgrade. T-Birds are power hungry.
Is this power supply AMD approved?

This may have nothing to do with your CCE problem, but it is definately a problem.

Go to this website and join their forum. www.amdmb.com They have a MSI forum. I am sure they can help you. It is one of the better sites on the internet for AMD based systems and they have not steered me wrong yet. Take my advice forget about DVD2SVCD for now. Until you get this system stable you should be doing nothing else.

Mark

dvd2svcd

22nd April 2002, 09:09

I truly don't understand why you dismiss my suggestion :( Please try it before anything else. Don't focus on hardware, don't run anymore tests. Just do as I suggest, please.

moviemandvd

22nd April 2002, 19:28

@Markb: When my computer reboots, it looks like a blue screen is trying to show up, but it restarts to quick for me to see it. I just ran prime95 for 12 hours and got no errors. I also changed some bios settings, S.M.A.R.T for hard drives was enabled and so i disabled it along with some caching options that forum link u sent me said to. like i said prime 95 ran for a long time and hasnt shown any errors, nor has my computer restarted since then.

@dvd2SVCD: I will run it again usuing ur suggestion i just havent had the time yet. The editting that you want me to do, is that movie specific or will those be set for all the movies i do. will i have to find the credit frame and edit each time? if no, What are the chances that the 2 movies i do, right after one another both have freezing probles i.e.( 32% and 66%) Im just wondering if that is the problem or not. I would like to do a 3 movie to prove what the problem is. if it freezes at some number again especial at 33 or 66 then thats got to tell us something. Thanks a gain for all ur help and wonderfuil program. I will post again after i try ur suggestion.

jornada

23rd April 2002, 03:57

I have same situation before.
And the problem still have even I try to upgrade to avisync 1.07d and change memory. Also I try to cut the credit part to solve such problem.

Maybe it's a spicific case for my PC. I fund a simple solution for this, that is change the max bitrate to 6000.
So Next time when u face freeze, just cancel the CCE status window.
The CCE still there, double click the item "xxx.avs" andchange the max bitrate.

I try many times and it's work.
But the only problem is the quality and file size will or will not influnce by the changing I really don't know.

gizmau

23rd April 2002, 05:08

did you set the dct precision in encoder/cce/advanced to automatic?
dont do this and set it to 8 or even 9 bits.
result? does cce still freeze at the end of a pass?

>Well, the problem is most likely the end credits. I bet they have a lot of black background. Black = High Bitrate = CCE freezes of unknown reasons.
wrong. black means _low_ bitrate in mpeg encoding!

>As a lot of people know, Shrek is one of those movies that almost
>always freezes CCE and yesterday I finally got my own Shrek DVD and
>I started to experiment. And I succeded in encoding it by doing it
>this way:
wrong.
its _not_ shrek which freezes cce, but propably the settings dvd2svcd does!
deselect linear quantizer scale, which belongs to mpeg1 - the nonlinear quantisation is one of the advantages mpeg2 has over mpeg1.
select zigzag scanning order and progressive frames for progressive input.
manually select 8 or 9 for dc decision, dont use automatic.
dont play around with the gop-settings! cce for itself doesnt allow higher settings as 3/4. i dont know what happens when dvd2svcd forces higher settings...

and another question to concern:
how did you remove the crc-checking in cce, which patch was used?
did you even remove this?

markrb

23rd April 2002, 05:22

@DVD2SVCD what I was saying is that there is a core issue with the computer if it randomly reboots as he stated. I cannot say whether or not this has anything to do with the CCE, but you must admit a computer rebooting on it's own is a problem that should be looked into.

I did not mean to dismiss your suggestion, but being a computer engineer I always try and solve any major hardware issues first. Until a system is stable you cannot expect programs to perform as they should. Random reboots can cause data and OS corruption that can adversly affect other programs. Until this is solved there is no point attempting to solve anything else.

@moviemandvd if you feel your computer is now stable then it is definately time to move onto more specific checking. Do what DVD2SVCD has suggested and pay close attention to when it freezes if it does. If it does continue to reboot on it's own then definately go to that forum I suggested and raise your issue with them. The computer is not working the way it should if it randomly reboots.

@gizmau I wonder were you are getting some of your info? If as you say it's the settings in DVD2SVCD that are causing this problem why is it that less then 5% of all the people that use this program are having problems with CCE freezing? Personally I use the defaults most of the times I encode and have never had CCE freeze for me.
All of the default settings in DVD2SVCD have been researched and are there to imrprove the quality of the video. Even though Linear Quantizer is for mpeg-1 video many find it actually helps for mpeg-2 as well, even though it shouldn't. You can find some discussions on this in the CCE forum.
This CCE freeze problem has to be the one most researched problem within the DVD2SVCD community and I highly doubt that these settings were not considered in all the time this has been going on.

If you have any specific proof a setting is an issue I am sure everyone here is all ears and we would gladly accept the help. If you have a computer that freezes in CCE using DVD2SVCD and then does not after you change the settings, any settings, please let us know what you did. Until such testing has been done I do not believe this is the case.

I must be missing something. I have read through the posts twice and I cannot find where it was mentioned the CRC patch was used. If it was used though it's probably the one linked to in the Q + A. It's a commonly used patch to disable the CRC error. Not a first choice, but it does help some people encode when otherwise they couldn't. Trying to get you computer to work without the patch is a first choice, but some cannot. Only a few people have reported problems after using it and it doesn't sound like this one.

Mark

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 07:48

Ok, Maybe black = Low Bitrate, it doesn't really matter. I know that it is very dark scenes that make CCE stumble. And it is a bug in CCE. Maybe it is some settings in DVD2SVCD forces CCE to stumble, but in my search I have not found anything that could fix this 100%, the settings which are default has proven itself to work perfectly in 99% of all cases. My guess is still that CCE somehow stumbles on very dark scenes be it too high bitrate or to low. No matter what, when CCE freezes during the passes it has always been because of very dark scenes.

The reason why I say Dark Scenes = High Bitrate is simply because when I use a Max Bitrate of 2530 and a Average Bitrate of 2167 CCE freezes. But when I use same Max Bitrate but an Average Bitrate of 1900 it doesn't freeze.

@markrb: Sorry, I didn't mean to answer in the tone that I did, I had merely focused on where CCE froze. The rebooting was for me a secondary thing. Anyway, you're right, it is always a good idea to solve the hardware issues first. The CRC patch Gizmau is refering to is on a German Forum where Gizmau is a Moderator. It is also a very good forum and Gizmau is very knowledgable, but I sometimes feel he's jumping on dvd2svcd because he feels you loose some of the control of what is happening compared to doing it manually.

@Gizmau: I too have converted many many dvds and Shrek and Scary Movie 2 is the only two movies I have ever had in my possesion that froze CCE. So this is not a common thing. And as I could read on the german UBB, you never experienced a freeze either. Nonetheless, if you look in the CCE forum here you will see that there are people who is doing all the steps manually and also gets a freeze in CCE. Also, I would like to apologize to you because my answer in UBB was uncalled for. I just got upset because you dismissed my suggestion a little brutal. But I shouldn't have made an angry face at you. I am sorry.

One last thing. If you in CCE select MPEG1 as the output then "Linear Quantizer Scale" and "Zipzag scanning order" are both invisible. So no matter what it says in the CCE users guide, those two selections is for MPEG2 only.

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 14:22

Gizmau is right. Total Black frames = very low bitrate. In fact it goes way under the min bitrate set by CCE. So my guess is that maybe, somehow CCE stumbles on those low bitrates, and by brighten them as I did I raise the bitrate, and CCE goes through the encoding without problems. Take a look at this (rather large jpg) picture:

http://212.88.77.140/Black-Lowbitrate.jpg

gizmau

23rd April 2002, 14:59

propably it would help to switch the noise filter _OFF_ ?!?

markk

23rd April 2002, 15:12

Hi DVD2SVCD and gizmau,

I always switch the noise filter off, and I had no problems with Shrek. My CCE never had problems with any film. But I have to say, that I'am not on such a high level, as gizmau or DVD2SVCD. I decided that I don't need any extra filter, because I only make external copy's of high qualty films. Maybe it's a wrong decision but for me it works pretty well.

markk

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 15:15

I am trying now without the Anti Noise filter activated. I'll report back.

markrb

23rd April 2002, 17:27

Seems like everyone is apologizing today.

@gizmau I hope you didn't take what I said as any form of attack it wasn't meant that way, but after reading it again I can see where it could be considered that way. It was poorly worded. I was just asking if you had any specific settings and had you tested it yourself.

We are pretty passionate about DVD2SVCD here.
I do agree that you loose a little bit of control with DVD2SVCD, but most of that is on purpose. The settings are hidden to safeguard newbies and in my personal opinion most of the other settings are not needed. In the latest version many new settings are now available, especially in advanced mode.

In my opinion it is by far the best thing going today.

Mark

gerti67

23rd April 2002, 17:29

Hi Gizmau,

first I want to mention that I never ever had a single CCE freeze with all my conversions done with DVD2SVCD - even Shrek and with the anti noise filter set at "2".

But I did quite some testing with the linear and the non-linear quantization method as I also was unsure in the past about this setting in D2S. This was after also reading many sources in the net and of course the CCE manual on that topic.

And this was discussed in here some time ago also and we came to the conclusion IIRC that with the linear quantizer scale the qunatization curve you can see in BitrateViewer or the advanced window in CCE is far more smoother than with the non-linear and this results in a better quantization scale with these low bitrates used for a SVCD.

But this might be totally different with the high bitrates that are used with a DVD - that's clear and in there I see the only advantage in a non-linear quantizer scale because it would allow the quantizer to do a better job during scene changes from very high action to some "still picture like" scenes - and that would not be the case if you force a linear quantization scale on it.

With the DCT precision - I think it is not set to automatic at default by D2S and with the GOP settings - hmm - CCE manual says the default is 3/5. So I don't know why you say only 3/4 is allowed as a maximum.

Greetings,
Gerti

gizmau

23rd April 2002, 17:37

@dvd2svcd

could you offer me an avi or something else which will crash cce for sure because of black scenes? i _never_ had such behaviour and i was unable to produce this error, no matter what i tried...

afaik the bitrate shown at 'advanced' doesnt need to be the bitrate used in the encoded file, because of padding which is performed when falling below the minimal bitrate (???). better watch the encoded stream with bitrateviewer from http://www.tecoltd.com or something similar.

maybe we should first make clear, that we _do_ have the same tools; an crc- or bit-by-bit-compare of the exe could maybe give a solution.
please suggest an usable crc-tool of your choice.

[UPDATE] produced checksum with win-sfv32 was E2453B7A

if you felt attacked from my answer against your suggested workaround: this was not my intension to do so! i am sorry as well...

>If you in CCE select MPEG1 as the output then "Linear Quantizer Scale"
>and "Zipzag scanning order" are both invisible. So no matter what it
>says in the CCE users guide, those two selections is for MPEG2 only.
right yo are - the _selection_ is only available for mpeg2, because mpeg1 does exclusivly offer linear quantisation, nothing else. nonlinear was introduced with mpeg2, and therefore it should be used, because it offers the possibility to quantise more precisly between 0.5 and 56, whereas mpeg1 offers only 1 to 31 steps. (hope i remember this right...)
concerning zigzag scan i was mistaken, sorry, my fault - it is available for mpeg1 as well; i mixed up with alternate scan.

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 18:49

@Gizmau: I am currently trying your suggestion about Anti Noise off, and so far the encoding of Shrek has gone further than before. This could be the culprit. Thanks (so far ;) )

gizmau

23rd April 2002, 19:21

the idea with the noise filter was just a kind of logical assumption, because i believe that black on dvd isnt really black: try the virtual dub coring-filter and wonder how it mixes up you black areas :^O this invisible noise (lets call so...) is amplified by your tweak.dll.

btw: maybe i never had this kind of cce-crash because of the fact, that i lighten using luminance-filter within dvd2avi. i was never really satisfied with its output, because it darkens the image. good for encoding, but worse to watch imho than the original dvd.
i usally edit within the .d2v the line 'Luminance=128,0' to 'Luminance=133,0'; i would say that this meets the original as close as possible.

is this some kind of the control i am scaring to loose, as you are talking about? ;)

but i would like to compare the .exe first in order to ensure not to be victim of a stroke of luck...

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 20:28

@Gizmau: I did not mean to sound rude when I said you wanted more control of the settings, which you do get when doing the steps manually. The luminance you describe above is exactly one of those things you loose in an all-in-one solution as dvd2svcd are. I have full understanding for the people who wants to do it all manually. I did so too in the past, but I am a very lazy guy so I wanted to make my life easier and therefore I made dvd2svcd :)

And yes, I am quite sure that the thing you did with Luminance in dvd2avi could be the reason you never get a freeze. I think maybe I should implement that in dvd2svcd (so it can be adjusted).

mrbass

23rd April 2002, 21:47

ok read this long thread...phew. First off...I always uncheck anti-noise filter cuz I don't believe it's needed for dvds since they are a clean source to begin with. Also for the past week or so I've been using the avisynth.dll 1.0 beta 7d which dvd2svcd kindly compiled for us.

I've done well over 100 dvd rips on this machine so I know it's not hardware related. 2 movies in paticular freeze CCE 4 pass vbr. Scary Movie and Truman Show.

I've been logging CCE the past week or so and these are the findings.

CCE log of truman show...crashes at 7%. Note I'm attaching the entire 17KB cce log in case anyone wishes to view it.

sorry but I'm an idiot....only the vfapi mode didn't select YUY2 or RGB. As far as I can tell there's nothing to tell from the ccelog. My mistake.

So now I'm sticking with my old theory that there is a minor scratch and it didn't rip the whole thing perhaps. Since the first vob on both movies that crash are 2KB less than the 2nd or 3rd vob files.

markrb

23rd April 2002, 21:55

@gizmau would adjusting the luminance as you say to do be the same as using the tweak.dll filter for avisynth to tweak the contrast and brightness?

Mark

gizmau

23rd April 2002, 22:17

@markrg

its compareable to the tweak.dll-avisynth by dvd2svcd, but i dont try to fix/workaround something strange by only influencing a little part of the movie with hard to calculate frame numbers ( ;) ).
i do compensate the behaviour of dvd2avi in general, which alters the image by darkening (dont know exactly why this happens) - and this affect the whole movie.

whatever, i never crashed cce in multipass, whether i rised luminance or not.

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 22:23

I have now implemented the DVD2AVI Luminace property into dvd2svcd.

Anyway, it seems that deselecting Anti Noise Filter fixed the Shrek. I can't believe it's that simple, but alas, it seems to be :) Thanks Gizmau :)

markrb

23rd April 2002, 22:32

I am looking forward to trying this. I have been using the Tweak filter lately to brighten the image a bit. I never considered it a problem with DVD2SVCD or CCE, but more with one of my players. One of them always did a nice job while my other DVD player put out a darker image.

Mark

gizmau

23rd April 2002, 22:33

@dvd2svcd

:)

sound good - lets pray the those 'cce crashes at 66%'-problems disappear.
i hope my level of liminance-gain is correct. its just taken from 'eye'; i will do some more reliable test with liminance and histograms when i have some more time the next days or next week.

when will the update be online?

dvd2svcd

23rd April 2002, 22:56

I have attached a betaversion in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23624

dvd2svcd

24th April 2002, 09:31

Just wanted to notify you. Shrek went through a 5 pass without any problems just by Deselecting "Anti Noise Filter" :D

mrbass

24th April 2002, 17:30

pre 16 and pre 17 both left out the path to TitlePicture and said file not found.
"C:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"

Reverted back to build 1 and was able to recover from muxing and cutting
"C:\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "F:\behind.enemy.lines\video\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"

moviemandvd

25th April 2002, 06:10

well....i went back and encoded all the movies that were giving me trouble with freezing successfully. the problem was all with my bios settings. I disabled some caching options and disabled S.M.A.R.T and that solved it. my computer no longer restarts periodically either. thanks again to all of you guys that helped me! :)

dvd2svcd

25th April 2002, 13:10

@mrbass: I don't understand it. I have left out the path on purpose, and I have tested it here with and without the titlepictures and it works fine here. Can you give me some more information? (I even tried it using the same path as you did). The reason I have left out the path is to avoid the problems with paths where there's numbers in.

Anybody else here with that particular problem using the above beta version?

JFerguson

26th April 2002, 20:17

I've done well over 100 dvd rips on this machine so I know it's not hardware related. 2 movies in paticular freeze CCE 4 pass vbr. Scary Movie and Truman Show.

I've been logging CCE the past week or so and these are the findings.

CCE log of truman show...crashes at 7%. Note I'm attaching the entire 17KB cce log in case anyone wishes to view it.

Here's a coincidence. Ripped about 20 movies with no problems. Started ripping Truman Show last night and it's freezing at 14%. But, I do my movies 1/2 of the chapters at a time, and this disc has a pretty even split at around 51 minutes.

So, we might be freezing at the same point if you're doing yours all-at-once...?

I'm doing CCE 4 pass vbr too...

mrbass

27th April 2002, 00:52

sorry dvd2svcd..didn't see your post till just now...hehe
ok I'll rip a small chapter and let it go through....the whole process goes fine until the very end.

Lemme guess it's cuz I use the 'Set Folder Structure' and it's probably looking for the titlepicture in the root directory is my guess. The actual file is in a subdirectory set the the set folder structure. That's my guess.

I thought instead of taking out path names you were instead going to validate the input into folder names. Like not allowing 1,2,3,4,5,etc. and any other oddball characters.

JFerguson

2nd May 2002, 00:07

Here's a coincidence. Ripped about 20 movies with no problems. Started ripping Truman Show last night and it's freezing at 14%. But, I do my movies 1/2 of the chapters at a time, and this disc has a pretty even split at around 51 minutes.

So, we might be freezing at the same point if you're doing yours all-at-once...?

I'm doing CCE 4 pass vbr too...

Ok, I've been testing this Truman Show problem and have narrowed the freeze down to track #8. This will help speed up testing. So far I have tried:
Turning off Anti noise filter.
Tried Safe mode (VFAPI slow!).
Different ripper (SmartRipper).

A lot more things to try (avisynth dll, etc.). I'll keep you guys updated.

mrbass, have you made any progress on this one?

jopereira

6th May 2002, 22:17

Until now I have only encoded Jurassic Park III, Tomb Raider, Pearl Harbor. And now Shrek... and guess what? Yes, it stops encoding @ 23%. I have encoded half the movie to one cd, and now the other half freezes @ 23% (VBR, 4 pass). It stops @ frame 61087, in a total of 259212 (4*64803) which is not the beginning of credits...

I'll try to encode without credits chapter.

EDITED: Just a note: I did try without noise reduction filter, but didn't get better results; still crashs @ 23%. I think this is a CCE problem, not related with our particular machine, but as many have said the cause is still unknow (perhaps particular changes, particular sequences, etc.).
About black scenes: Jurassic Park III has many more black screens in credits part than Shrek, but didn't give me any problem....

mrbass

15th May 2002, 03:41

Originally posted by gizmau
btw: maybe i never had this kind of cce-crash because of the fact, that i lighten using luminance-filter within dvd2avi. i was never really satisfied with its output, because it darkens the image. good for encoding, but worse to watch imho than the original dvd.
i usally edit within the .d2v the line 'Luminance=128,0' to 'Luminance=133,0'; i would say that this meets the original as close as possible.

ok gizmau where are ya when I need ya. I've searched the web and all to a dead end. I'm trying to find out where it shows the a set Luminance gain of 5 in dvd2avi tab = 133 (which dvd2svcd told me) how is the formula calculated. I want to throw it into the reference.

I've searched newgroups, etc. here's thread (http://forum.vcdhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=81027) about luminance levels but all I could come up with is
PC = 0-255, TV = 16-235.

here's excerpt about luma correction from nicky's nandub
guide (http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/nandub.htm)
"Scenes that contain a lot of contrast are difficult to compress. Mpeg compresses blurry or low contrast images better because there is less detail in them. If a scene that has a high contrast appears this option detects it and increases the bitrate to compensate. The threshold setting represents how high the lumina (or luminance i.e. brightness difference) needs to be before it will increase the bitrate for that scene. ......blah blah...cartoons generally have more contrast and sharpness problems."

never knew adjusting brightness and contrast could be so hard :rolleyes:

edit: ok I found it...I'll throw this in the advanced reference...goodness gracious reminds me of the quadratic formula (plus or minus radical b squared minus four ac over two a):scared:

http://www.mir.com/DMG/ycbcr.html
so basically dvd2avi luminance input levels are Y'CbC and are converted to RGB. so 5 Y'CbC = 133 RBG...got it now?
I'll excerpt some relevant parts:

Crucial Little Facts
In standard computer graphics R'G'B' (8-bit per channel) encoding, each value ranges from 0 to 255. (0,0,0) is black and (255,255,255) is white.

In Y'CbCr (*always* 8-bit per channel) encoding:

Y' ranges from 16 to 235. 16 is the darkest, 235 is the brightest.
Cb and Cr range from 16 to 240. 128 is the zero-point.
Thus, (16, 128, 128) is pure black, and (235, 128, 128) is pure white.

You'll need to scale 8-bit R', G', and B' values by a factor of 1/255 to use these equations. Likewise, proper 8-bit Y' needs to be scaled by 219 and offset by 16. Proper 8-bit Cb and Cr need to be scaled by 224 and offset by 128.

r' = R' / 255 Y' = (y' * 219) + 16
g' = G' / 255 Cb = (cb * 224) + 128
b' = B' / 255 Cr = (cr * 224) + 128

so Y' value of 5 * 219 + 16 = 1111 / 255 = 4.3 (or dvd2svcd calcs 5 which is close enough for all freaking intensive purposes)

ok now can someone englighten me to what luminance offset is? Is that Cb and Cr values or what?

peilo

15th May 2002, 04:54

instead of "no editing" on the avsynth script try "edit as part of video encodeing" works also try safe mode:D was happening to me

Fizban99

20th June 2002, 01:17

Originally posted by dvd2svcd
I have now implemented the DVD2AVI Luminace property into dvd2svcd.

Anyway, it seems that deselecting Anti Noise Filter fixed the Shrek. I can't believe it's that simple, but alas, it seems to be :) Thanks Gizmau :)

I was having this problem when trying to rip Sex and the City Season 1 Episodes 3 and 4. I've done tons of rips, this is the first that CCE has frozen on. Turned off the Anti Noise Filter and all went through fine. Just thought I'd share my experience.

PEACE

JFerguson

9th August 2002, 03:01

Just tried doing the first half of the "The Truman Show" again on a different piece of hardware and got the same freeze at 14% (7% if you do the entire movie in one shot).

That makes at least four people on this forum that have this exact same problem.

Anyone get this one figured out?

adam1185

9th August 2002, 03:47

It always freezes at 9% for me...5 tries now :(

gizmau

9th August 2002, 06:34

unfortunatelly i experienced this problem, too.
but it seems, that it is more related to avisynth than to cce.
just give link2 a try, it works fine...

adam1185

9th August 2002, 07:15

ummm...what's link2?

gizmau

9th August 2002, 23:49

have a look at http://www.videotools.net
and maybe do a search at edonkey :devil:

btw: isnt link2 allready supported by dvd2svcd?!

adam1185

10th August 2002, 03:20

Oh well i gave up on the truman show and just used tmpgenc and it worked perfect!

gerti67

10th August 2002, 12:31

@gizmau:

Yes, it's already supported but make sure you're using still 0.947 as the latest version does not work properly - seems they changed something with it and dvd2svcd has confirmed this already.

Also keep your pathes short as Link2 has a 38 characters path limit (I won't comment that).

Greetings,
Gerti

JFerguson

12th August 2002, 01:57

Originally posted by JFerguson
Just tried doing the first half of the "The Truman Show" again on a different piece of hardware and got the same freeze at 14% (7% if you do the entire movie in one shot).

That makes at least four people on this forum that have this exact same problem.

Anyone get this one figured out?

Well, looks like TMPGEnc worked for me too...

titvs

15th August 2002, 14:39

Hi all!

I'm having the same CCE freeze problem but with some DivX AVI files. I know divx files are more likely to have corrupted data and generate a CRC error in CCE. I've patched CCE for this and the CRC error message no longer appears. Maybe where CCE stops is when the message was supposed to be displayed. In the other hand, CCE shouldnt stop encoding because of the patch. I have a case where it stops encoding at 33%. I've tried 3 times now.
I guess this is an AviSynth problem and i'll try to see if there's a new release and try it out.
BTW, this problem never ocurred with DVD's.

Regards,

Titvs

mancer

16th August 2002, 13:23

I'm having the problem with "Scary Movie 2", CCE stops after the 1st or 2nd pass. I've tried:

- turning off "anti-noise filter"
- replacing the Avisynth.avs

Nothing worked :( Before I rip the movie again without the credits, I'd like to try out the method dvd2svcd wrote about. My problem is that I can't access Donald Grafts homepage to download the tweak.dll. Can somebody send it to me please? My adress is alexander.nenstedt@gmx.de.

titvs

16th August 2002, 20:15

Well, i'm still with problems trying to encode some DivX files into SVCD. Apart from the freezes that sometimes happens, now i'm getting MPEG files encoded only with the following message:

AviSynth: caught an access violation at 0x0bef0098, attempting to read from 0x130e5000

I'm using AviSynth 1.0 beta 6.
One thing that is leaving me puzzled is why this doesnt happen when I test the AVS script in VirtualDub?
And why can I encode DV avi's perfectly with no problems?
Is this a multitask problem in XP? Something trying to access the file at the same time?
This is even more puzzling because the same machine converted 3 other divx files with no problems.
All of the files were passed through DivFix to correct possible errors.
I know there is a lot of fuss related with this strange errors that occur in CCE. But i guess all the freezes and crashes are AviSynth related or, then again, perhaps not. Oh, also tried beta 7 with no results.
I'm trying a more radical aproach now. I'm converting the problematic AVI to Huffyuv and see if i can encode it. This is very strange since I dont have problems of this kind with DVD's. :confused: :confused:

I'll continue to report my findings

Titvs

xp_eric

17th August 2002, 11:16

Just finished the PAL version of Lola Rennt (Run Lola Run), a strange but great German Cult movie. After constant freezing of CCE at 27% I tried to switch of the Anti Noise filter but this didn't change anything. Then I switched the Image Quality priority from 22 back to 17 resulting in a freeze at 55%. Finally I installed version 2.62 of CCE, turned back on the Anti Noise filter and restored Image Quality priority to 22 : no more freezes !

:sly: Eric

titvs

18th August 2002, 19:36

Sucessfully converted the DivX movie which was gaving me freezing problems (that avisynth violation error).
I had to convert the original DivX file to Huffyuv resulting in a 22 gb AVI file :( and the encoding speed droped from .6 to .4. I'll see if i can improve it by eliminating the ConvertToYUY() command in the AVS script since the resulting AVI is already in YUV and i guess supported in MPEG.
This seems to be the most effective method in dealing with CCE freezes with DivX files although it consumes a lot of HD resources.

Titvs

Kryzzle

25th August 2002, 17:13

During the last couple of weeks, I have not been able to convert a single movie without experiencing CCE hangs at reproduceable parts of the movie.

I have tried every single workaround that has been discussed throughout the forum in the different CCE threads - none helped to solve the problem.
Yesterday, I did a WindowsXP reinstall (from scratch). Since then, I am able to even run CCE without having to use the VFAPI method :cool:

Did anyone of you, who was suffering from the CCE hang issue, try a Windows reinstall yet?

titvs

25th August 2002, 21:22

You're right Kryzzle.
In my last post i said i succesfully converted an AVI wich was causing hangs (Avisynth access violations) by converting it first to Huffyuv. Well, i tried on another one and it hanged.
And every movie i was trying i coudnt get to convert any (DivX AVI that is). I then reinstalled XP (i have the partition on CD - Norton Ghost) in about 15 mins and tryed again. I've been able to convert all of them even without patching CCE.
Maybe those Avisynth access violations are due to hd fragmentation, i dont know.

Well, everything is running smoothly now :)

Titvs

mancer

25th August 2002, 21:32

What do you mean with "reproduceable parts", Kryzzle? F.e. my CCE 2.50 stops at 24% or 49% of "Scary Movie 2", which is said to be because of the ending credits. If that's the problem you've had I'd be curious to dig out my last image...

HailStorm

5th September 2002, 07:15

Hi to all those who have been contributing to this thread, and especially to dvd2svcd for all his work, without which i would still be using a VCR :) I recently discovered the joys of using DVD2SVCD in AVI mode (I do lots of capping from TV), only to find the same problems as many regarding the CCE freezing ... so here are some of the outcomes i have discovered during fairly intensive testing in the past few weeks, and over 3 different machines.
1: CCE doesn't appear to like Matrox video cards in the G4 series. Changing to a GeForce4 on one machine immediately stopped the problem of CCE freezing.
2: The CCE CRC patch generally should not be needed, if you are getting CRC errors, it is a sign of some other underlying problem.

I have yet to conclude tests on 2 other machines, both Intel P4s, but currently have dvd2svcd working flawlessly on a dual athlon 2000+, with CCE not CRC patched. Highest number of passes so far is 7 :)

I hope to conclude tests on the other 2 machines in the next week or so.

I would really like to know what video cards others that have been having the freezing problem are using.

Again, best regards to all who have offered suggestions etc here, they were greatly appreciated

Haere Ra